Brightonbob Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 All Kneel and Worship at the Church of Norris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.*EMMA*. Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 Congratulations Dave but would rather see super Stoney in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonbob Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Thataboy Speedway Star! Nice to see people getting behind the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oh no ur shoes! Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Have you all forgotten somebody that should be in the GB squad............... STUART ROBSON!! Stuart has ridden fantastically this year and he always puts in 110% effort, surely he deserves a place in the squad! If you look, his average is only 0.07 below Norris! As for Norris, he complains about most tracks, so what is he going to say about the Danish tracks? (If he moans, he may as well not be there!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Norris is not international class and it's disgraceful that he has been picked. Away from his Eastbourne home he is very very ordinary. Even there he didn't exactly impress when riding for GB versus RoW ! Â I am also bemused by the decision to include Havvy - hardly setting the world on fire at the moment is he ? Â How he can exclude Stoney is beyond me. The bloke is bang in form at the moment, and he should be in the team if only for his infectious enthusiasm and the team spirit he creates. Obviously his face doesn't fit, or maybe it's because he's northern based ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Norris is not international class and it's disgraceful that he has been picked. Away from his Eastbourne home he is very very ordinary. Even there he didn't exactly impress when riding for GB versus RoW ! I am also bemused by the decision to include Havvy - hardly setting the world on fire at the moment is he ?  How he can exclude Stoney is beyond me. The bloke is bang in form at the moment, and he should be in the team if only for his infectious enthusiasm and the team spirit he creates. Obviously his face doesn't fit, or maybe it's because he's northern based ?   Stonehewers elite average is 6.10 Norris is on 6.78 Robson is on 6.71, but mosly from the reserve berth. In fact he is a weak link in the Bees side at the moment.  It's a rare thing when I defend and eastbourne rider but on this occassion Middlo has got it spot on. Wilson? Never in a onth of sundays. Simon Stead? No chance. Even Loram mentioned on Sky that the guy has stagnated and failed to move up to prove himself.   Lets face it. At the moment the best GB are going to do is the playoffs. Now that USA have pulled out it makes our chance slightly better but to make the final with such a team will be an excellent effort.  All this sack Middlo nonsense. What can the guy do when half his riders are injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_clubs Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Norris is on 6.78Robson is on 6.71 Â Chris Harris is also around 6.7 (from memory) and would be a better choice due to his age and his better ability around away tracks. Â I think Screen is on about 7.5 and has a wealth of international experience. Â Havelock is way out of the equation on about 6.5 and dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonbob Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Well said Mr Shovlar. Â I think its anyone from 5 or six for that last berth - but we're really pleased for Floppy. I think he'll surprise a few doubters. Â Three of those riders at least are going to have to ride above themselves just to get us into the final. I'd want Floppy in my side in a scrap and no mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concrete Cowboy Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Can i start by saying I'm as patriotic as anyone, and i'll be cheering for Teab GB whoever rides. HOWEVER, what happened to all the young up and coming riders that 'supposedly' were to be given a chance due to Nicholls, Loram and Richardson being GB's ONLY world class riders ?. Â What have we done ?, picked more riders who are closer to the end of their career's rather than taking a bold step and thinking ahead. :x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oh no ur shoes! Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Robson is on 6.71, but mosly from the reserve berth. In fact he is a weak link in the Bees side at the moment. Â How can you say that Robbo is a weak link? He rides brilliantly for the Bees and does his best all the time! We don't really have a weak link, we just have lower rank riders, such as ryan, jason and robbo, but they aren't our weak link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokiss Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Fully agreed. Â I remember being at shefield last year when Joe had just won a heat, he came round the first bend after the finish and about ripped the throttle off. Â The guy in my eyes clearly works on confidence. Â It's a mistake indeed not taking screen imho/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 I think Joe Screen's performance tonight confirms that Middleditch has indeed got his team selection badly wrong. I think the reason why Neil picked Norris ahead of Screen was because the tracks in Denmark are slick and fairly small. Had they been held on big deep grippy tracks, Joe would have been picked. Joe's starting has probably gone against him as well, as the slick tracks suit the faster starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Poor old Middlo...whatever he does will be wrong. I wouldn't want his job for anything! Â I'm wasn't sure about the Floppy decision either but then I don't know what the Danish track we're due to ride is like either!!! Problem is, if we don't get a result, or any one of the 5 has a duff meeting everyone will be pointing fingers and making accusations saying why wasn't so and so in it. Â From what I've seen, Joe had a great meeting last night admittedly, but this is on the back of a not so hot season for him so far. As for Stoney, his gating last night was very poor against the other EL guys - that's nothing against the guy just an observation and one of the main differences I've always noticed between the two leagues and as Peter said fast starts on the Danish tracks will be crucial. Â So, in the absence of anyone else out there screaming to be included on the basis of a whole season's racing...and there isn't anyone with all the credentials, I'll give Middlo the benefit of the doubt and say he's right to pick Floppy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goggles Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Look, ok Norris has been chosen to do a job by Middleditch. Now under the circumstances, obviously Middleditch has chosen the strongest team avaliable to him, in his opinion.So lets get behind his choice, eh? Â Better Idea. Sack Middleditch. If that's his opinion of the best team available to him, then his opinion isn't up to much. Â A rider long past his sell by and two homers who can't ride any track more than 15 minutes away from Eastbourne. Â you cant blame middleditch for not having top class riders available like australia for example. if howe was fit he'd have got the nod over norris, but he isn't so dave's in. I wonder how many times some of you have seen norris in the last couple of years or at any time for that matter. they said on sky last night that the first track they'll be riding is small and slick, I'd also heard that before as the reason for using arlington as a 'practice' for GB v ROW,so hopefully the powers that be do know what they're doing UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES they've gone for experience over youth. I'll be giving our team my support as I'm sure they'll do their best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sir Lunchalot Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 I'm with the "GB aren't going to win it so why not take the chance to give the youngsters the experience" brigade. Â Case in point was the British GP ... who got the wild card picks for that ? Stead and Howe did, then Harris got a late call up. BSI recognised that the youngsters are the future of speedway. The other attitude isn't wrong, but to me it's more of a reward for length of service to British speedway rather than anything to do with current ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Poor old Middlo...whatever he does will be wrong. I wouldn't want his job for anything! Â Same here Rabbit..... his Job as Team GB Manager is difficult enough without fans having a go as to why he never picked "their" favourite rider, I'm chuffed to little mint balls with the selection as they are all my favourites hmmmmmm with the exception of dare I say David Norris I think he should of put Joe in there, thats on a personality basis though not riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Middlo has picked these riders because he thinks they are the best ones to ride Outrup which has been reported to be a small, slick track. These guys can all gate and that is imperative on a track like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Well said Trees, plus I really don't think Middlo is the sort of person to have his strings pulled by anyone incidently He's been in the sport too long for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goggles Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Middlo has picked these riders because he thinks they are the best ones to ride Outrup which has been reported to be a small, slick track. Â These guys can all gate and that is imperative on a track like that? Â and that's the difference between using established elite riders rather than premier, gating and the first bend. they will have to deal with some mean gaters and ruthless first bends. I agree we desperately need our younger brigade to progress and I'm sure they will by being part of the squad. there is a realistic chance of GB coming second to australia in the first round with the chosen team. I'm sure the others will get a run out with the sort of luck middlo has with his riders!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylmo Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Congratulations to Floppy for making the GB squad a joke. quite agree  I remember when everyone was moaning about Martin Dugard getting in the G.P. on a wild card and what happened to him. Floppy's away average the last two years has vastly improved to over 7.50 . Admittedly he would struggle at a Kings Lynn or Peterborough type track but the Danish tracks are small and slick which will suit him more than Wilson , Stonehewer and Stead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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