GSC_1 Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Regardless of nation, age etc. just who should be in the G.Ps proper. Who do you beleive are the best 15 in the world? My thoughts.... 1. Jason Crump 2. Greg Hancock 3. Nicki Pedersen 4. Andreas Jonsson 5. Leigh Adams 6. Hans Andersen 7. Matej Zagar 8. Tomasz Gollob 9. Jarek Hampel 10. Scott Nicholls 11. Antonio Linback 12. Bjarne Pedersen 13. Rune Holta 14. Mark Loram 15. Peter Karlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Regardless of nation, age etc. just who should be in the G.Ps proper. Who do you beleive are the best 15 in the world? My thoughts.... 10. Scott Nicholls <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh no, wait till the Old Mongol sees this. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Oh no, wait till the Old Mongol sees this. All the best Rob <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Already seen it and didn't think it worthy of comment. Not only has the beggar been included, but Wieslaw Jagus isn't there. The guy who wrote it is obviously terminally deluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Shouldn't Andersen be no 4 on current form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south coast robin Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Regardless of nation, age etc. just who should be in the G.Ps proper. Who do you beleive are the best 15 in the world? My thoughts.... 1. Jason Crump 2. Greg Hancock 3. Nicki Pedersen 4. Andreas Jonsson 5. Leigh Adams 6. Hans Andersen 7. Matej Zagar 8. Tomasz Gollob 9. Jarek Hampel 10. Scott Nicholls 11. Antonio Linback 12. Bjarne Pedersen 13. Rune Holta 14. Mark Loram 15. Peter Karlsson <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Would probably include Jagus instead of Loram . Rico could force his way into the top 15 this season and would be good to see other Britboys like Bomber and Steady in there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...494&hl=Rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_D Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Using my calculations statistically the World Top 15 Ranking: 1.Crump 2.Andersen 3.Nicki Pedesen 4.Hancock 5.Adams 6.Jonsson 7.Bjarne Pedersen 8.Nicholls 9.Rickardsson - Retired 10.Hampel 11.Gollob 12.Protasiewicz 13.Richardson 14.Iversen 15.Lindback 16.Zagar Edited March 12, 2007 by J_D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 My top 15 would be the same as GSC_1's, except I'd have Jagus instead of Loram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilly Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Surely the top 15 in the world are the GP riders???!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Munchie Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 just based on my own opinion my top 15 would be.... 1. Jason Crump 2. Hans Andersen 3. Andreas Jonsson 4. Nicki Pedersen 5. Greg Hancock 6. Jarek Hampel 7. Antonio Lindback 8. Matej Zagar 9. Leigh Adams 10. Tomasz Gollob 11. Karol Zabik 12. Fredrik Lindgren 13. Rune Holta 14. Kris Kasprzak 15. Bjarne Pedersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boardrider Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 you've all missed out Lee Richardson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) 1. Scott Nicholls 2. Jason Crump 3. Hans Andersen 4. Greg Hancock 5. Nicki Pedersen 6. Leigh Adams 7. Chris Harris 8. Simon Stead 9. Andreas Jonsson 10. Matej Zagar 11. Bjarne Pedersen 12. Piotr Protasiewicz 13. Mark Loram 14. Jesper B. Jensen 15. Lee Richardson All the best Rob Edited March 14, 2007 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Regardless of nation, age etc. just who should be in the G.Ps proper. Who do you beleive are the best 15 in the world? My thoughts.... 1. Jason Crump 2. Greg Hancock 3. Nicki Pedersen 4. Andreas Jonsson 5. Leigh Adams 6. Hans Andersen 7. Matej Zagar 8. Tomasz Gollob 9. Jarek Hampel 10. Scott Nicholls 11. Antonio Linback 12. Bjarne Pedersen 13. Rune Holta 14. Mark Loram 15. Peter Karlsson <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Vertually copied the GP line up with bottom three adeed. Zagar may have done well in the GP's but I would not put him in the top 10, while Peter Karlsson should be in the top 10 easily ahead of Zagar, Nicholls, Lindback. Using my calculations statistically the World Top 15 Ranking: 1.Crump 2.Andersen 3.Nicki Pedesen 4.Hancock 5.Adams 6.Jonsson 7.Bjarne Pedersen 8.Nicholls 9.Rickardsson - Retired 10.Hampel 11.Gollob 12.Protasiewicz 13.Richardson 14.Iversen 15.Lindback 16.Zagar <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you include Rickardsson in the list then he would have to be in the top three. Protasiewicz even Richardson and Iversen shouldnt be in this list but where o where is Peter Karlsson ? 1. Jason Crump 2. Hans Andersen 3. Andreas Jonsson 4. Nicki Pedersen 5. Greg Hancock 6. Jarek Hampel 7. Antonio Lindback 8. Matej Zagar 9. Leigh Adams 10. Tomasz Gollob 11. Karol Zabik 12. Fredrik Lindgren 13. Rune Holta 14. Kris Kasprzak 15. Bjarne Pedersen <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Kasprzak ? Karol Zabik ? While I think Fredrik Lindgren could be a contender soon, he shouldn't be there just yet but Leigh Adams and Bjarne Pedersen deserves more credit than 9th and 15th and Nicholls should be in there somewhere. Where is Peter Karlsson 1. Scott Nicholls 2. Jason Crump 3. Hans Andersen 4. Greg Hancock 5. Nicki Pedersen 6. Leigh Adams 7. Chris Harris 8. Simon Stead 9. Andreas Jonsson 10. Matej Zagar 11. Bjarne Pedersen 12. Piotr Protasiewicz 13. Mark Loram 14. Jesper B. Jensen 15. Lee Richardson <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I will have a pint of what youve been on please ! "Ladies and Gentlemen, coming onto the track now is the World #1, Scott Nicholls" Please wake me up ! Harris and Stead have no reason just yet to be in the top 15 while Tomasz Gollob, Jarek Hampel have to be in there errr . . . . have to ask . . . Where is Peter Karlsson ? PK ; Multi World Team Cup Champion, Fourth in GP Challenge, finished in the top 5 of the averages in England for the last two seasons with averages just short of 10 a match. So here is mine, based on league scores, current form, GP form, etc. 1 - Jason CRUMP 2 - Hans ANDERSEN 3 - Ncki PEDERSEN 4 - Leigh ADAMS 5 - Greg HANCOCK 6 - Andreas JONSSON 7 - Bjarne PEDERSEN 8 - Jaroslaw HAMPEL 9 - Peter KARLSSON 10 - Tomasz GOLLOB 11 - Scott NICHOLLS 12 - Matej ZAGAR 13 - Antonio LINDBACK 14 - Rune HOLTA 15 - Mark LORAM Just outsider or near consideration were ; Wieslaw Jagus, Jesper B Jensen, Fredrik Lindgren (ask again in 12 months), Ryan Sullivan, Billy Hamill and especially for Stevebrum . . David Howe ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) 1. Scott Nicholls 2. Jason Crump 3. Hans Andersen 4. Greg Hancock 5. Nicki Pedersen 6. Leigh Adams 7. Chris Harris 8. Simon Stead 9. Andreas Jonsson 10. Matej Zagar 11. Bjarne Pedersen 12. Piotr Protasiewicz 13. Mark Loram 14. Jesper B. Jensen 15. Lee Richardson All the best Rob <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wouldn't take the above too seriously if I were you folks. This guy dithers and flip-flops around. After all, this was his considered opinion not so very long ago: My own rankings (not calculated, but simply my opinion): 1. Jason Crump 2. Hans Andersen 3. Greg Hancock 4. Nicki Pedersen 5. Andreas Jonsson 6. Leigh Adams 7. Matej Zagar 8. Tomasz Gollob 9. Jarek Hampel 10. Peter Karlsson 11. Antonio Lindback 12. Scott Nicholls 13. Bjarne Pedersen 14. Wieslaw Jagus 15. Rune Holta All the best Rob <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Please note that both Jesper B Jensen and Piotr Protasiewicz have miraculously appeared since joining Oxford. Edited March 14, 2007 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 1. Jason Crump 2. Greg Hancock 3. Nicki Pedersen 4. Andreas Jonsson 5. Leigh Adams 6. Hans Andersen 7. Matej Zagar 8. Tomasz Gollob 9. Jarek Hampel 10. Scott Nicholls 11. Antonio Linback 12. Bjarne Pedersen 13. Rune Holta 14. Mark Loram 15. Peter Karlsson <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1 - Jason CRUMP 2 - Hans ANDERSEN 3 - Ncki PEDERSEN 4 - Leigh ADAMS 5 - Greg HANCOCK 6 - Andreas JONSSON 7 - Bjarne PEDERSEN 8 - Jaroslaw HAMPEL 9 - Peter KARLSSON 10 - Tomasz GOLLOB 11 - Scott NICHOLLS 12 - Matej ZAGAR 13 - Antonio LINDBACK 14 - Rune HOLTA 15 - Mark LORAM <{POST_SNAPBACK}> However you're calculating it (and GP form alone can't be the sole determinant), consensus view seems to be that 10/15 of the best currently ride in the UK. Not great for an "Elite League", is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Schumi Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Please note that both Jesper B Jensen and Piotr Protasiewicz have miraculously appeared since joining Oxford. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm more surprised Eric Andersson didn't make his list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M08 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 1. Jason Crump 2. Hans Andersen 3. Nicki Pedersen 4. Greg Hancock 5. Andreas Jonsson 6. Leigh Adams 7. Jarek Hampel 8. Bjarne Pedersen 9. Scott Nicholls (just for Subedie ) 10. Antonio Lindback 11. Matej Zagar 12. Mark Loram 13. Rune Holta 14. Tomasz Gollob 15. Peter Karlsson They were the riders out of the opening post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I'm more surprised Eric Andersson didn't make his list. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Schumi, Good point. And I forgot Freddie Eriksson too. I'll put them in, and take Andreas Jonsson and Nicki Pedersen out. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Schumi Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Schumi, Good point. And I forgot Freddie Eriksson too. I'll put them in, and take Andreas Jonsson and Nicki Pedersen out. All the best Rob <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey I don't care what you do with Andreas but you leave Nicki alone. That would be like taking Michael Schumacher out and replacing him with Mansell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Hey I don't care what you do with Andreas but you leave Nicki alone. That would be like taking Michael Schumacher out and replacing him with Mansell. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Schumi, Mansell would be in the list anyway, as only three drivers have won more races, and also as one of the better overtakers in F1. Schumacher was fast, but he couldn't pass wind Oh dear, we've drifted off topic, but it's a daft topic anyway and one that has been done several times before. And I was quite worried how TNT seemed to take my post seriously, surely it was obvious it was an attempt to wind up a certain 800-year-old Mongol, with Nicholls at No. 1 and several other Brits and Oxford riders thrown in for good measure, and only one Pole (Protasiewicz) in the list. I'm also worried how Sub went and found out my original list. How long did that take to find? The old Mongol needs to get out more All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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