Premier League 4 Team Tournament

[Shoddy]

that's a shame ... if you ask the question i'm sure he would answer

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I think the answers are pretty clear, with the exception of including Birmingham against the averages.

 

Redcar are out because the highest available 4 from their declared team is not strong enough. The same doesn't go for Workington with Stoney and Wright - as they don't have real time averages they have to be counted on their starting figure.

 

I'm not saying I agree with this just that it seems the logical reasoning behind it all.

 

Why Birmingham got in I can half understand but I just wish they'd have been honest and up front about it instead of the clearly stupid reasons they gave.

 

For me the final would line up with Redcar still in as once a team qualifies at cut off surely they have qualified? If not then have the cut off later surely???

 

Sheffield would have been in to start with as the 8th placed team as I am still to hear any sensible reason for Birmingham being seeded.

[The SAINT]

Who was the last team to win the 4s at a neutral venue ? just out of interest.

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was it not sheffield at peterborough (2001 or 2002)??

[wjm]

was it not sheffield at peterborough (2001 or 2002)??

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No I don't think it was, im sure the last one was at Coventry on national telly, but it really has slipped my mind who won.

[Paulco]

No I don't think it was, im sure the last one was at Coventry on national telly, but it really has slipped my mind who won.   

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Wouldn't have been Berwick in 2002 would it WJM

[Jive]

I have my fingers crossed for good weather, to allow the cricket and picnics to go nicely

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Now your talking, bat, ball and wickets packed, now who has that nice Brian Griffin's telephone number so we can get back the most unorthdox umpire (and speedway promoter )that cricket has ever seen?

[ruckerroo]

There was one from coventry that arena looked to have sewn up and tatum ran a last in the last heat to gift the win to someone else,cant for the life of me remember who they were tho..

[Jive]

I'll be there, looking forward to it already!  

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Second thoughts..... don't need an old bat if your gonna be there Third thoughts will bring one just in case I need to hit someonething for six

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[wjm]

There was one from coventry that arena looked to have sewn up and tatum ran a last in the last heat to gift the win to someone else,cant for the life of me remember who they were tho..

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Ow I know but im sure most fans are very greatful to Newport and another PL team for the race that was going on in front.

[BelteshazzarBee]

Being called 'missy' by a 16-25 SL? Now that's got to make you feel good.

 

What a strange initial post I look forward to seeing some of this 'woop ass' stuff from Rye House with anticipation.

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First things first what the hell does SL mean and secondly u have read it differently as to how it was intended, i did not say i wanted there to be a poor crowd for peterborough but if you go to both meetings i am pretty sure there will be about 2 people at the panthers match and little or no passing on track. I used to go there every week a few years back but i just got bored of it and turned to Rye for my weeks dose of speedway. I know they have new(ish) promoters and they seem to be heading in the right direction but i still have bad experiences with that club, but loads of good ones obviously. Peterborough are a team i watch out for now and again, but i am not as bigger fan as i was.

 

I know rye won't perform to good at the huge schmowground but i will still go.

 

Sorry for the huge post but i am having to defend myself here, Shooting Star 'woop ass' relates to how passionate i am about rye and speedway in general, it is a term that us 'youths' use to show how our teams our going to win, basically.

 

THE SAINT u obviously have either never been to the scmowground or have when they actually care about what thier track is like. I know for a fact home riders have been a bit upset about how the track is set up at times in the last 3-4 years. Again sorry for the huge post but some of you people really do jump to conclusions and judge someone u don't even know.

 

Oh and onother thing i don't travel very far to speedway because news flash i dn't drive yet and my father is heavily involved in work for Rye and The Panthers.

[SCB]

Redcar are out because the highest available 4 from their declared team is not strong enough.  The same doesn't go for Workington with Stoney and Wright - as they don't have real time averages they have to be counted on their starting figure.

but Stoney was not in the team until AFTER the deadline. Surely it has to be the 4 highest averaged rider who are still in the team that was declared on the cut off date?

[Star Lady]

First things first what the hell does SL mean

 

 

I'm not mean you might have a bit of a shock when you meet this "missy" tho .

On 4s day, find the cricket match and I'll be the one sitting knitting at silly mid off

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[BelteshazzarBee]

Yeah whatever your 60 or so ,but what does SL mean.

 

Plus when i said 'missy' i don't know u i just thought it was a good reply to your negative comment. u could be 18 0r 60 i don't know do i, or did you not notice that there are't video phones in this place.

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[BelteshazzarBee]

"Whatever your views of Peterboro (or any other club) and the standard of racing/atmosphere they serve up, to wish a poor crowd on them without thinking of the consequences is a very poor thing to do"

 

What are you on in this post lady, they do'nt need me wishing it on them they do it themselves. Oh and one poor crowd would not do anything, an accumulation of years of poor crowds is what would lead to a club going out of business.

 

P.s are u a teacher or something cause you seem to have no respect for the young peoples opinions at all.

[Shortcrust]

Yeah whatever your 60 or so  ,but what does SL mean.

 

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Erm, Star Lady.

[Guest PanthersChamp06]

On a Brighter note, whos making the trip to the EOES

[Piccolo]

Folowing the injuries to Havelock and Tressariu Redcar's averages by the cut off date were 25.79.

 

Sheffields remained at 28.85.

 

The original rules published on JC's Super 7even website gave the cut off date as April 13th and named Sheffield as the reserve team in the event that one of the qualifying teams became weakened through injury. Redcar's qualifying average was way in excess of 30 points.

 

Clubs did not have an equal opportunity to qualify for this event, there was disparity between the number of meetings ridden and disparity between team groupings (which put Worky and Kings Lynn in the Midlands).

 

If this was to be a commercial event then why not seed all 8 teams or to make a long day of it have a race off for a "best of the rest" qualification place(s)

[stevehone]

On a Brighter note, whos making the trip to the EOES

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me

[Danzell]

On a Brighter note, whos making the trip to the EOES

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me too, and the missus and little one.

[Brummiestormer]

Sheffield would have been in to start with as the 8th placed team as I am still to hear any sensible reason for Birmingham being seeded.

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Because you can all have a laugh at us when we don't score anything after racing at Berwick the night before!

[Opinion]

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It’s Workington being allowed to stay in that I find a joke! Their top 4 is now Wright, Niemanen, Branney and Carpenesse

 

How is it? Workington’s top four is Wright, Stonehewer, Branney and Nieminen with Carpenesse at reserve. As someone has already stated it is the team that qualify not the individual riders. It is not possible for Hansen to ride as he is injured obviously and the slot needed to be filled.

 

As for the comment about one of the riders not having an average. Just because they haven’t rode this year does not mean they don’t have an average. He is part of their team now so what’s the problem. And for the comment about the averages. James could not help being injured and the averages are for riding order not what the Fours have been worked out from.

 

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According to the Star today Redcar were given a deadline of last Friday to indicate whether Gary Havelock would be fit and as we couldn't guarantee this 'Redcar had to pull out under competition rules' Ha Bloody Ha

 

As far as Redcar is concerned it seems to be their fault if they have not said if Havvy would be fit. Hey could have said no and redeclaired their team and probably have stayed in if they stated Kessler in the team but if they have not done this (which we do not no if they have or not) then there is nothing we can do. I am not saying it is ok for them to be pulled out of the Fours but that’s the way it is.

 

Also about Mildenhall not being included when they have been in the final twice this is not what it all evolves around. I no it would be nice for them to be in and for every team to have a chance by possibly having the qualifying rounds etc but that is up to the people who run it. What about the year Workington were not in when they won it the year before. Not everything is fair but unfortunately that’s the way it is.