buzzybee Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Come on Olly Allen I know we already have 2 British bees at cardiff....but 3 would be bliss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrwulfAndrew Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Come on Olly Allen I know we already have 2 British bees at cardiff....but 3 would be bliss <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2 is bad enough! Seriously though this should be a great meeting, one where a few riders can win it me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesboybert Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Come on Olly Allen I know we already have 2 British bees at cardiff....but 3 would be bliss <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What she said! Wouldn't it be lovely to have a bees top 3, at monmore of all places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Looking forward to some live Speedway. Track should be in decent nick - Dry with some showers last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jacques Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 (edited) Well, you can add my Kiss of Death to that one. Chris really is the outstanding Brit this season. If you're near a bookies, put £50 on him being abducted by aliens at about 5pm tonight. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I really am looking forward to this one....come on Oliver Edited June 4, 2007 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willp Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 great to see the buzz back in the british final. last years meeting at belle vue was a shambles tbh. good to see young british lads given a chance tonight as well. either a bomber or scotty win for me with either david howe, steady or eddie kennett getin the wild card slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Allen has no chance of the wild card. Would need more than a slice of luck for him to be seriously in the running. Howe must be favourite by the proverbial. If the track is set as usual with drive off the inside of bend two and little in the way of dirt on the outside for passing, then he will get the wildcard unless he crumbles under the pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanozoff Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Odds for tonight. Nicholls S 11/10 Havelock G 33/1 Harris C 2/1 Woffinden T 40/1 Howe D 7/1 Bridger L 40/1 Stead S 12/1 Allen O 100/1 Richardson L 12/1 Lawson W 125/1 Kennett E 16/1 Hall R 125/1 Screen J 16/1 Wright J 125/1 Louis C 25/1 King D 150/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jacques Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 to be fair if I was a betting type person, my money would be on David Howe, although Olly gave him a good run for his money when we met in the league a few weeks ago, so we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 If Tai does finish higher, I will eat green ants for one week. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That needs to be quoted...just in case. Still, I might go and have a look, but they should hold an important meeting like this on a "proper" speedway track. Wolves is more "way" than "speed" ! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Many riders name Monmore as one of their fave tracks as it's well prepared, and gives opportunity to overtake. As I've said ever since this was first announced, most Brits are very good at Monmore. I doubt more than one or two would rather it was somewhere else (excluding riders preferring their own track). Bad news for Eddie is that he will have a 3 hour flight(plus checkin/out) back to the UK on Monday morning from Hungary. Hardly ideal preperation for an important meeting like this.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Got that one in nice early eh Steve. ... when was the last time we had any Phenomenal brit kids like Tai in the 80's Kenny Carter & Micheal Lee... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What about riders such as Lewis Bridger and David Howe? They moved up to the EL in their teens. What about Simon Stead? Widely regarded as only being held back by injury. Mark Loram and Joe Screen... ...but then all the positive things that are posted are really encouraging for him <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He's a talented rider, and I'm looking forward to seeing him ride tonight. He needs to realise that the comments here have nothing to do with him as an individual or as a rider. It's the fact that he's allowed to ride in this meeting that's annoyed a few of us. On another note, I really hope there's not going to be a semi and final at this event. The non GP rider scoring the highest should be deemed the rider to be represented in the GP, not the winner of the final... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agree 100%. The GP wild card and GP qualifiers should be decided on the riders' 5 ride score. It would be great if they drew the riders out and they came out alphabetically like that.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> And on the same lines... I'd love to know how the printer knew what to print (for the programme) if the draw is made at the event tonight. Dont worry im confusing myself lol..... Sorry mis read what you posted <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ahhh you spotted it in the end then?! I go to my first " live " meeting since Cardiff 4 years ago, tonight. I am taking my new Doris too so it had better be a good un! God I have missed live speedway. I cant wait. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Monmore rarely disappoints these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Think most peoples sensible money would be on Howie. Have to say tho that stead, kennet will be all out for that spot too. Have a feeling that Screenie could spring a suprise too! top 3 of HARRIS, NICHOLLS, HOWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanozoff Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Monmore rarely disappoints these days. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To be fair it always used to disappoint whenever I followed Bradford down there, not so much the track or racing just the overall result. We always got spanked no matter what team we had! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngy105 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Odds for tonight. Nicholls S 11/10 Havelock G 33/1 Harris C 2/1 Woffinden T 40/1 Howe D 7/1 Bridger L 40/1 Stead S 12/1 Allen O 100/1 Richardson L 12/1 Lawson W 125/1 Kennett E 16/1 Hall R 125/1 Screen J 16/1 Wright J 125/1 Louis C 25/1 King D 150/1 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How on earth can Havvy be on those odds??? And why is Woffinden at 40/1 whilst Wrighty is 125/1 and Danny King at 150/1. Screenie looks a good bet at 16/1 whilst the odds on Steady are very generous considering the form he is in at the moment. Belle Vue 1-2-3 would be nice but won't happen. No doubt Nicholls will claim his 5th British Title with (more than likely) Bomber finishing runner up. Tough call to say who will finish third (presuming the Cov pair finish as predicted). Will Howe hold his nerves, Will Steady up his game, Will Screenie want a final swansong in the GP (albeit as a wildcard), Will one of the younger generation (Wright, Kennett, Woffinden) spring a surprise??? All in all it should, and I say that hastily, be a good meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaar3 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 great to see the buzz back in the british final. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't know Mark Burrows had been put into the meeting. Is he reserve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 To be fair it always used to disappoint whenever I followed Bradford down there, not so much the track or racing just the overall result. We always got spanked no matter what team we had! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly how I used to feel going to Odsal! It was a good job when the bonus point was introduced, a little something to cling on to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 (edited) Writing off Norris? He's held the track record at Monmore, I'm pretty sure none of the others have ever done that. Though if it is decided by a 'Final' i.e. one race at the end count him out, he tends to fade towards the end of meetings at Monmore usually. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Norris out, King in... even if Norris was back, I'd be thinking the injury he's coming back from might mean he's not as fit as the others. Kennett is or has been way to erratic at Monmore to really have a chance of a rostrum finish and the Wildcard. Nicholls & Stead were both absent when their teams visited Monmore this year while Poole are yet to visit WV2, Kennett did however guest of Eastbounre. Perhaps that will be a factor, I dunno, but the track has been more tightly packed this year than previously, the wide dirt line hasn't developed as it did in previous seasons. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fair post Col, particularly the part about the track conditions. I think I predicted Ed because of his form at the moment, but if the top part of this paragraph is right then I could be proven wrong (not for the first time ) I can only assume this is down to the make up of the Wolves team. PK, Howe, Lindgren & Lawson are all adept at riding the inside line, whereas IMO Hamill (& maybe Magnus Karlsson) has/ve suffered due to the lack of the dirt line developing - Billy has to do all his work form the gate these days. This could IMO benefit Stead who is capable of blowing anyone away early on in a meeting as he proved last year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd agree with that. If you think my defending of British places in a British Final is "disgusting" well I am happy I have made you feel that way. I am a true Brit and will defend Brits over any other nationality any day of the year. And am proud to do so. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As am I, Shovlar. But, I'm guessing we're all basing Tai's decision to be an Aussie on what he's apparently said last season, and until there is some kind of official decision from Tai (is it not on this thread he has until he's 18 to reach a decision?) then I'll support the guy as one of ours and appreciate the really special talent he has. Says a man who supports Poole <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Edited June 4, 2007 by tigerblues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Tuesday Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I predict a Howe/Stead last heat decider, with Stead bombing under Howe on the last bend, knocking him off and getting away with it...again! Seriously though, I'm looking forward to the meeting but can't help but wonder how many of them acutally want to ride at Cardiff as wild card. I can understand Howe, Stead, Kennett, King et al having a good go for it, but some of the more 'mature' guys must be thinking about going to Cardiff and enjoying the atmosphere rather than having to worry about racing for no real benefit to themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Talking of which i find Steve Shovlars rants about Tai Woffinden disgusting and bordering on sick. Leave the lad alone. He just wants to be a successful speedway rider. He can be whatever he wants to be, and i tell you what if it was me reading all this s"*te it would make me err on the side of wanting to be Aussie. You go with the people who treat you better and you feel most at ease with. Good luck to him whatever he does, i just admire him for the talent he has. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Spot on Philip! Everyone appears to be baseing the anti-Tai posts on what he said when he first came to the UK last year. This is a kid who considered himself an Aussie as he had spent most of his life there and didn't know anything about being British except vicariously through his parents. Surely it was up to us as British speedway fans to 'convince' Tai that he want's to choose Britain as oppsoed to Australia. Instead all he gets to read are negative posts about how he shouldn't be allowed to ride in a meeting in which he is FULLY entitled to ride. End of the day he is British NOW, today, in 2007 so he is riding in the British final - as he should be. Leave the kid alone and let him prove himself on the track. Go for it Tai - I hope you do well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbin' Along Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Spot on Philip! Everyone appears to be baseing the anti-Tai posts on what he said when he first came to the UK last year. This is a kid who considered himself an Aussie as he had spent most of his life there and didn't know anything about being British except vicariously through his parents. Surely it was up to us as British speedway fans to 'convince' Tai that he want's to choose Britain as oppsoed to Australia. Instead all he gets to read are negative posts about how he shouldn't be allowed to ride in a meeting in which he is FULLY entitled to ride. End of the day he is British NOW, today, in 2007 so he is riding in the British final - as he should be. Leave the kid alone and let him prove himself on the track. Go for it Tai - I hope you do well! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hit the proverbial nail on the head here petal. Remember -not that many years ago New Zealand and Australian riders were in the GB team and rode in the British Final! I think Tai has the right to pick which country he represents - after all if Rune Holta can do it (and get away with it!) then why can't he? And many of his detractors will be cheering "our own Tai Woofinden" in future GPs, I am sure. How many will remember that according to them, he isn't even British in 2007? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 From what I hear, Woffinden is an Aussie when things are going right for him, but a Brit when they're not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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