Aries Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 The rules are there, it's not the BSPAs fault <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh really? as you yourself have admitted, the rules are rubbishe. So who made the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) I agree the rules should be changed to include all teams but as I have asked, what have the BSPA done to stop BV getting into the final? They come up with the rules and the BV promotion didn't sign a good enough top 2. The TR rule is crap but it's not the BSPAs fault Peterborough are 2006 EL champions, it's the Peterborough management and riders fault! Edited March 11, 2007 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) what have the BSPA done to stop BV getting into the final? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> By making the idiotic competition rules, its that simple. Edited March 12, 2007 by Bloomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackStaff Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 It's called the Elite League Best Pairs Final. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is it? its down as Elite League Pairs competition on their website fixtures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I The TR rule is crap but it's not the BSPAs fault Peterborough are 2006 EL champions, it's the Peterborough management and riders fault! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> then whos fault is it, are you saying that peterboro should not have used the rules made up by the BSPA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I agree the rules should be changed to include all teams but as I have asked, what have the BSPA done to stop BV getting into the final? They come up with the rules and the BV promotion didn't sign a good enough top 2. The TR rule is crap but it's not the BSPAs fault Peterborough are 2006 EL champions, it's the Peterborough management and riders fault! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> By making the idiotic competition rules, its that simple. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> then whos fault is it, are you saying that peterboro should not have used the rules made up by the BSPA? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give it up Shawn - sometimes it's just not worth the effort! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 For those wanting to make a day of it --with two meetings in the same day --why not make it to the Mildenhall v Newport PL match at 2.30 then have a short journey (about 45 mins) to King's Lynn for the EL Pairs ??? See you at West Row on Easter Saturday then ....2.30 start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 When the BSPA set a limit on GP riders per team it stopped teams tracking two top stars and therefore made these supplus riders available to other teams. When the BSPA set a lower points limit it meant some teams could not accommodate all the riders they had hoped to and therefore made these supplies riders available to other teams. I do not necessarily agree with these rules but the point I’m making is that the BSPA have a very real effect on team building and if rules such as this were in place this year the Aces predicament would not have arisen. Yes it’s the same for everyone, but they do never the less greatly effect team building. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To the other members do you, like me find it’s ironic that had averages including bonus points been taken into account, you know them things you get when team riding as a pair, then the Aces would have been in. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ouch, Who knows one day we may get a valid, intelligent post from you. I won't hold my breath though <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes or no, did you find the above to be valid, intelligent post from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 SCBs logic doesn't make sense, <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What happened to Oxford last year was beyond belief but to repeat it with Belle Vue just leaves one speechless. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hehehehe - SCB is a big girlie. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You big girl's blouse you SCB! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is the major problem we've got here, Shawn. You're convinced you're right and we all know you're wrong! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No - SCB is NEVER wrong - well apart from that one time!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know I'm occasinally wrong, <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What an absolute load of rubbish you're spouting. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh really? as you yourself have admitted, the rules are rubbishe. So who made the rules? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cheers everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 It is a mockery that Belle Vue won't be able to defend the title. Mickey Mouse Speedway again! There must be a fomula that allows all the EL teams to take part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 BigFatDave, I know I'm occasinally wrong, my last reply was just an attempt at humour and to try and stop it turning into another arguement. However, that was not good enough for our friend ouch, so to keep him happy I have carried on. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Goodonya Shawn, I must admit I've got a lot of faith in someone who tells it as he sees it. You did have the misfortune though to fall into a "Let's Get SCB" feeding Frenzy through no-one's fault but your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Cheers everyone <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm pretty sure the middle 5 comments about SCB were related to the fact that you called HIM a 'she' rather than support for your 'cause'.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 It is a mockery that Belle Vue won't be able to defend the title. Mickey Mouse Speedway again! There must be a fomula that allows all the EL teams to take part. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is - we used it last year - and the general concencus was that the meeting was boring and that most fans were bored due to the big gaps between thier 'teams' races. Soemthing that the formula this year is supposed to address! What's the old thing about 'you can't please all of the people all of the time'?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Cheers everyone <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh dear!!!! Think you should leave this thread well alone now before it becomes even more farcical!!! I thought the Panto season was over - Oh no it isnt!!!! Edited March 12, 2007 by Sandie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M08 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Maybe JC has done what others on here should have realised As if Simon Stead and Joe Screen have got a cat in hells chance in beating anyone?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Saint Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Cheers everyone <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't like my comments quoted to support a personal attack on a fellow poster. SCB is quite correct in what he says about the rules and I have no disagreement with him. My view is that the rules were wrong in the first place and that a lesson should have been learnt from the Craven Shield last year. Ouch, I would appreciate an apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) I don't like my comments quoted to support a personal attack on a fellow poster. SCB is quite correct in what he says about the rules and I have no disagreement with him. My view is that the rules were wrong in the first place and that a lesson should have been learnt from the Craven Shield last year. Ouch, I would appreciate an apology. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No i must admit i didn't like my posts quoted either. The only thing i was responding to was SCB saying "what have the BSPA done to stop Belle Vue entering". Belle Vue won't be entering BECAUSE of the competition rules set by the BSPA its as simple as that. Yes i know what he is saying, the rules have been made and because of those rules Belle Vue don't fit the criteria so they're not in it which you can't argue with, thats also a fact. What i don't agree with is saying its not the BSPA'S fault that they are not in it, of course it is. Its an Elite league pairs competition and as Belle Vue are a member of the Elite league they should have a pair of riders entered in to the competition, thats the real issue here. Edited March 12, 2007 by Bloomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Stead and Sceen no chance of winning? Simon Stead and Joe Screen have both done rather well in this competition previously. I feel sorry for Simon as he is part of last years winning pair, now prevented from defending his title. Crumpy would not have won last year by himself, it was a pairs event. Obviously Jason was the man to beat but it was a partnership. Mad plans like this make our sport look so foolish, the authorities need to think again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 It's more of an issue whether the BSPA should even allow Belle Vue in the Elite league with the Premier League team they're fielding. Never mind whether they're allowed in the pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananas Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) It's more of an issue whether the BSPA should even allow Belle Vue in the Elite league with the Premier League team they're fielding. Never mind whether they're allowed in the pairs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey just a sec, thats completely below the belt. We are all well aware that we have our worst team for a few years, but there are other teams below the 42.5 limit as well but you're not nit-picking on that. I'm disappointed we've been booted out of the pairs but I'm not surprised either. Its almost a foregone conclusion who's gonna win anyway, so what difference does it make! I suggest you concentrate on your own team rather than stabbing at others, all fans have feelings. Edited March 13, 2007 by bananas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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