The Little Un Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Wasn't getting at JC, Tony - he's done very well within his brief, but I certainly think he could have been given greater scope to rethink the big events and plan ahead to deliver something even bigger and better for 2008, say. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who said they are not planning for something bigger and better in 2008? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyM Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Wasn't getting at JC, Tony - he's done very well within his brief, but I certainly think he could have been given greater scope to rethink the big events and plan ahead to deliver something even bigger and better for 2008, say. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not on here to defend JC, as he does most certainly have his faults, but I think in this case he has probably pushed the boat out as much as he could within what the BSPA would run with. As I said, lets hope it all comes off and he then can go back in the autumn with a big grin saying 'I told you so', and he seems just the sort of bloke to do just that, and is given a more of a free role for 2008 I think there are a number on here who would have been happy to have given him a blank sheet for 2007 but as ever the BSPA follows the conservative line unless given no option - there always seemed a bit of 'lets throw JC et al a bone to shut them up' about the whole sub committee anyway so I would imagine there are some promoters out there who probably think some of ideas for 2007 are too radical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The fans need to support the 07 events before any radical changes will be made for 08! It's good to hear that the SRA fully support the idea, at the end of the day it's up to the riders to put on a fantastic show to keep the fans happy and to get them to come back in 08. I hope the BSPA treat them fairly, they are, after all, the most important people in the sport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 SS - Im well aware of sheffields race night - but forgive me if Im mistaken but Saturday isnt Kings Lynn Race night, is it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Think it's been widely considered as their off night for a couple of years now, although Friday was used a lot last year. Will be a nice to have something Speedway wise at Easter time. The stocks tend to take over! As for Sheffield on a Thursday, well, I'm delighted! Not everyone has every weekend free. And some don't have any! Unless, they y'know, suddenly feel ill *cough*. Putting the fixtures on a range of tracks and days allows a wider range of fans to visit these events. Hopefully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 (edited) Thanks Sandie for placing these...but can I discuss them as a whole rather than individually?! I haven't got all the time in the world.. I think the organisers are to be congratulated on the whole: * Super7 is a nice bit of branding...links the events together well * Well done too on putting together a decent website * Autographs are a great idea...it's things like this that make speedway great..the riders are very accessible __________________________________________________________ But only half an hour allotted for this. Imagine the queues and how many supporters will line up only to be disappointed ? Cannot understand either why the ELRC will be held on a Thursday! Edited February 1, 2007 by Pollyanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I don't like the fact the ELRC is a Thursday and British Final is a monday. Do they not want people to go?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedway_dan Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Its a good start but the key now lies in the media coverage that must be generated around all the events and the level of presentation that is delivered at the events. Ive said all along more time and effort needs to be put into the overall presentaion of these events so that the fans are catered for and entertained not just showen 20 heats of speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I don't like the fact the ELRC is a Thursday and British Final is a monday. Do they not want people to go?! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In the Local paper is says that CVS would only run if it was on a monday. I guess they are banking on local support... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Yeah Brilliant for all the people who want to see their national champion being crowned. Deary me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalewhale Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Fine, so the organisation and marketing have been improved, there's a bit more entertainment on offer and the British Final top 5 can qualify for the GP stages, though the whole thing left me slightly underwhelmed. I'd expected a more radical new range of competitions involving more tracks and more riders. Too high expectations, I guess. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Pretty much my feelings too. I went to the London Bike Show today, and had a look at the stand. I have to say, for a national sport, it was terrible; one bike, one TV showing that awful sky summary over and over again, and a load of oh so unexciting pictures as a backdrop. And they were only pushing the Silly7evens. What about the three leagues without which there wouldnt be the other spin off events, do they not deserve promotions anymore??? I dispair of the BSPA,as they seem to have no idea when it comes to moving the sport forward and PROMOTING. I hoped that the influx of new promoters like Horton, Brimson, and thingemy at Lakeside would have a positive effect, and maybe hey wil in years to come, however at the moment I can't see it. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Blue Bee Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Cannot believe the British Final is at Wolverhampton - there will be very little racing at the dog track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 ELRC at Sheffield on a Thursday? What a total crock of cr*p on two counts. One. Sheffield have shown scant regard for considering moving up into the elite league for years. Their promotion are backward thinking and would rather be kings of their own back yard than take the step up their fans demand. To give them such an event panders to promotions who lack any drive. Two. A Thursday? Might be OK for the Sheffield fans, but who else is going to travel in mid week? Terrible decision. Next they will be announcing that Compton and Ashworth will be riding in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalewhale Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Cannot believe the British Final is at Wolverhampton - there will be very little racing at the dog track. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Methinks you protest too much as a Coventry fan. Monmore is just as good a racing track as any - in fact better than many, especially the narrow awkwardness of Brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalewhale Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 ELRC at Sheffield on a Thursday? What a total crock of cr*p on two counts. One. Sheffield have shown scant regard for considering moving up into the elite league for years. Their promotion are backward thinking and would rather be kings of their own back yard than take the step up their fans demand. To give them such an event panders to promotions who lack any drive. Two. A Thursday? Might be OK for the Sheffield fans, but who else is going to travel in mid week? Terrible decision. Next they will be announcing that Compton and Ashworth will be riding in it! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, you're right on point two anyway.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerblade Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I'll be there!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hope to meet you there Two. A Thursday? Might be OK for the Sheffield fans, but who else is going to travel in mid week? Swindon at 6pm on a Sunday night isn't exactly ideal for a lot of PL fans either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki star 882 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 ELRC at Sheffield on a Thursday? What a total crock of cr*p on two counts. One. Sheffield have shown scant regard for considering moving up into the elite league for years. Their promotion are backward thinking and would rather be kings of their own back yard than take the step up their fans demand. To give them such an event panders to promotions who lack any drive. Two. A Thursday? Might be OK for the Sheffield fans, but who else is going to travel in mid week? Terrible decision. Next they will be announcing that Compton and Ashworth will be riding in it! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dont think it is about the Sheffield promotion's ambition or lack of, it's about getting a neutral venue that will suit the occaision. Sheffield is fairly middle of the country, reasonably easy to get to, plenty of parking, good facilities, and if prepared right a great racetrack. I agree that Thursday is not the best day, but how many suitable / EL tracks are available on a weekend ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 ELRC at Sheffield on a Thursday? What a total crock of cr*p on two counts. One. Sheffield have shown scant regard for considering moving up into the elite league for years. Their promotion are backward thinking and would rather be kings of their own back yard than take the step up their fans demand. To give them such an event panders to promotions who lack any drive. Two. A Thursday? Might be OK for the Sheffield fans, but who else is going to travel in mid week? Terrible decision. Next they will be announcing that Compton and Ashworth will be riding in it! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whinge Whinge it is a neutral track that they have chosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 (edited) Whinge Whinge it is a neutral track that they have chosen. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Didnt really prove what he said to be wrong though did you, the points SS made were pretty valid. Edited February 2, 2007 by wjm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 ELRC at Sheffield on a Thursday? What a total crock of cr*p on two counts. One. Sheffield have shown scant regard for considering moving up into the elite league for years. Their promotion are backward thinking and would rather be kings of their own back yard than take the step up their fans demand. To give them such an event panders to promotions who lack any drive. Two. A Thursday? Might be OK for the Sheffield fans, but who else is going to travel in mid week Is the meeting anything to do with the Sheffield promotion though, won't the BSPA be taking all the monies? At least all speedway fans have the dates in good time so that they can book time off work if they want to go to these meetings ....................... and anyway Shovlar, you're self employed aren't you so you can take off time just when you like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 They have had a very hard choice between credibility and crowd figures. Their way of thinking must be that Sheffield get decent growds, four figures and if they can get them to come out for it and add on 3 coaches loads of each Elite club. Then the added bonus of neutral like me who will make an effort to go this and maybe even the Premier/Conf in the area may be up for it. It's a calculated risk. Whether it's worth taking remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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