treborbee Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Taken from www.speedwayworld.tv RESERVES ALLOWED FOR SWC THE FIM have approved a rule change to this season's World Cup which will now see each nation declaring six-man teams. The sixth rider will be a reserve and able to take over should a team-mate be injured during the meeting, a facility which was not previously available to managers. As soon as the reserve has taken one ride, he must then take all subsequent outings for the team-mate he had initially replaced. The World Cup will once again be staged in three countries this year, starting with a return to former Danish Grand Prix venue Vojens for the first qualifier on July 14. The second qualifier then takes place in the UK two days later, with Coventry staging its first World Cup meeting since the competition was re-launched in 2001. The final stages will be staged at Leszno in Poland, with the Race-Off on July 19 and the Final on July 21 as the Danes defend the Ove Fundin Trophy which they won in dramatic circumstances at Reading last year. What is peoples opinion on this, and who will be in the GB team this year? I think it will be: 1. Nicholls 2. Harris 3. Richardson 4. Loram 5. Stead 6. Bridger/Louis/Norris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananas Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 If Steady gets dropped again, it a crime I would agree with that line-up treborbee, let's face it, Britain doesn't really have anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Have a feeling Howe might be at 'reserve' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Good idea to have a reserve. In fact I'd go so far as to say it's common sense. Having 'our' round at Cov is fantastic news. Only Floppy of the obvious names doesn't ride it particularly well. Scott Lee Chris H Mark L are dead certs if fit. Then take your pick from.. David H Chris L Joe Simon David N You could even add... Olly Lewis Deano as outsiders if we have an injury crisis. Whoever is in form should get the nod. We will be strong at home this year, but Poland will be tough unless we have our first choice big track riders on form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 IF Howe is riding well - he could well get the nod for Brandon - he does ride it well. Louis' not bad there either from what I've seent but after last years world cup performance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 You don't not select Chris this season, on a track he has a record, because he had a 'mare at the last WC. All the Brits I named down to Simon have good career records at Brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Surely GB has to do one of two things here, Havvy or a youngster (Kennett or Bridger). This is an extra place where we can take a bit of a risk and Havvy has never let us down any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Can't beleive it's took them so long to realise the need for a reserve, thankfully a rider has not been injured in the World Cup so far and had to pull out as it would of been diabolical that they couldn't bring anyone in before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Meynell Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Can't beleive it's took them so long to realise the need for a reserve, thankfully a rider has not been injured in the World Cup so far and had to pull out as it would of been diabolical that they couldn't bring anyone in before. Yes, but why the restrictions of the use of the reserve now. Why not simply let them replace any rider at any time, subject to a maximum number of rides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star ghost Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 As Kevin says Why make the reserve take over for the rest of the meeting. He may need to replace a rider who has suffered a knock or machine trouble and will be o.k for a later ride. The reserve should be to replace any rider unable to take his place in a heat. It may be an advantage then to put a "top" rider at Reserve and use him "as and when". At least that would be more sensible than playing the "Joker" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 It would be abused if you made available to any team at any time to replace any rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 It would be abused if you made available to any team at any time to replace any rider. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's very true. For example, the Poles could simply name Tomasz Gollob at reserve and then select 5-6 "easier" heats for him to ride in. The same could be said for Jonsson, Crump or Nicki P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boardrider Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 That's very true. For example, the Poles could simply name Tomasz Gollob at reserve and then select 5-6 "easier" heats for him to ride in. The same could be said for Jonsson, Crump or Nicki P. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can see Team GB sticking Richardson at reserve for that reason, not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mitch Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 (edited) Can't beleive it's took them so long to realise the need for a reserve, thankfully a rider has not been injured in the World Cup so far and had to pull out as it would of been diabolical that they couldn't bring anyone in before. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I,m pretty sure TRick was injured at SWC in Denmark ? , remember he left his double decker tour bus there for Team Sweden. They then went on to win it without him. Edited January 23, 2007 by Mad Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartfordHammer Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) I,m pretty sure TRick was injured at SWC in Denmark ? , remember he left his double decker tour bus there for Team Sweden. They then went on to win it without him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think what he means is that no one has been injured during a meeting, so far as they can't complete their races. Not yet anyway, and long may it continue. Edited January 24, 2007 by DartfordHammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I thought the rules already allowed for tactical sustitutions, seem to remember Nicholls having an extra ride at Reading last year, although I was seeing double(s) at one stage of the evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star ghost Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 I thought Eric Gunderson and some other riders were injured and couldn't continue with their rides in a World Cup Final at Odsal a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 I thought Eric Gunderson and some other riders were injured and couldn't continue with their rides in a World Cup Final at Odsal a few years ago <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think that was when they had five riders in each race. Much better with four in a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Meynell Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I think that was when they had five riders in each race. That crash was in the old World Team Cup back in 1989, and ended-up Gundersen's career. All four riders in the first heat (Erik Gundersen, Lance King, Simon Cross and Jimmy Nilsen) were injured in a first bend pile-up and unable to continue. They were replaced by reserves for the rest of the meeting. The 'old' WTC format was 4 riders per team + a non-programmed reserve that could be used at any time. There weren't any tactical options. The five riders per race format is quite a recent 'innovation', although the old World Pairs Championship did run with six-rider races from 1986-1990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 That crash was in the old World Team Cup back in 1989, and ended-up Gundersen's career. All four riders in the first heat (Erik Gundersen, Lance King, Simon Cross and Jimmy Nilsen) were injured in a first bend pile-up and unable to continue. They were replaced by reserves for the rest of the meeting. The 'old' WTC format was 4 riders per team + a non-programmed reserve that could be used at any time. There weren't any tactical options. The five riders per race format is quite a recent 'innovation', although the old World Pairs Championship did run with six-rider races from 1986-1990. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry. Thanks for correcting me on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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