Sandie Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Normally I would be saying we go for the fun and atmophere but this year - in my opinion - both were lacking and I dont see us returning next year. We didnt buy tickets before the event this time and were disappointed that the benches have had to be removed (rotting apparently) so we ended up paying silly money to sit in the balcony area. Its okay for you youngsters but standing watching is not that simple these days!! So - paid out loads of dosh for a meeting that had no atmosphere and didnt encourage audience participation at all. The 3pm meeting was rushed though at such a pace that the Pairs meeting had finished before it was even scheduled to start in the programme. The evening meeting was slightly better (even if some of the decisions were dodgy). So overall - to costly, no atmosphere and a 1st meeting that felt like it was rushed through. The riders did their best to entertain us especialy in the mini bike rides but Im afraid I feel my money was wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full-throttle Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Its okay for you youngsters but standing watching is not that simple these days!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> the first bend at coventry will be quiet this year then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 the first bend at coventry will be quiet this year then.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You probably havent noticed Rob that I take a small chair these days. Or we sit on the terrace. Couldnt exactly sit between races todays!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I see Les Collins did not do too badly still think there is a place in the PL for this guy what a role models for the youngsters .The guy just wants to ride and IMO his age is not an issue but to many others it is !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR125 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 What a joke. I won't be going back, there seems little point. In one heat, Phil was leading with Broadhurst cut accross the blue line (can't have a white line on ice) then wiped out Phil Morris and hit Tony Atkin (who stayed on, just). The referee called all 4 back, Broadhurst should have been excluded for being off the track but assuming he got away with that he wiped out another rider. Then in the last race, who ever won the heat out of Les Collins and Broadhurst went into a run-off with Phil. On the end of the first laps Broadhurst hit the feence, wobbled and as Collins passed him he leaned on Collins and fell. First the referee excluded Collins, then announced all 4 back. In the re-run, Jirout made the gate, moved Collins and Broadhurst over and John Branney passed them both and was well ahead when Broadhurst fell on his own going into the bend. Result? All 4 back. So I have driven to Telford, costing me a few quid in petrol, had to pay for lunch and spent £20-odd pound on tickets and what for? To see some bikes on ice, it was certainly not speedway as they didn't bother with rules. I was not the only who was annoyed, a lot fo the netrals were upset as there was quite a bit of booing of Wayne Broadhurst during the presentation. The guy should have done the decent thing and after getting lucky with the referee 3 times, he should have pulled out of the heat. Before anyone clais it's only a bit of fun, why do we bother with a score and have a winner then? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought this meeting was excellent. As a neutral I thought it was a well deserved win for Wayne Broadhurst. The referee allowed the meeting to flow well and not interfere to much but he did allow people to cut the course during the afternoon session and once you let one rider get away with it they will all do it and there is nothing then that the referee can do because he has to be consistent with his decisions. There was one particular race that Phil Morris front wheel actually went over the green carpet on the pits bend so it appears you were only lookingt at one particular person who cut across the blue line when in fact in every race somebody if not more than one cut across the line. Broadhurst won the race fair and square and Phil Morris said that when interviewed. It is supposed to be a bit of fun and something for people to go to and enjoy. Those of you that didnt enjoy it don't have to go again but in the whole most people got in to the spirit of things and will return next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 It is supposed to be a bit of fun and something for people to go to and enjoy.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> But speedway/sport is meant to be about fun, so according to you, so what if people cheat/we don't get fair results. BTW, If Morris really did have his wheel over the carpet, he and another rider could have fitted over the blue line and referee should have excluded him or it defeats the object of having a meeting. You may as wlel just have a load of guys arsing about. I went for a speedway meeting (on ice), not to see anarchy where you could ride into another rider if allw as going fwrong for you and get put back in the re-run. David Howe alwaso got away with riding into someone (Steffan Katt maybe?!) and was put back in the race, that was bad enough but when we're talking Broadhurst, Morris and Collins, we're talking the 3 guys who are likely to win the meeting, the referee should have seen then the winner of the meeting was going to be effected by his uselessness. Really, I paid £30 to see a fair speedway meeting and didn't see one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iffoid Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 My first visit, was in two minds about going, but really enjoyed it, was good to see something abit different. I was suprised with a few of the all four backs, but the ref was consistent and to be fair with so many riders sliding all over the place you could probably have excluded someone for doing something wrong in almost every race. On a promotional side it wasn't the best thing I have ever seen - struggled to hear the announcements and it did feel abit rushed, but the riders made it with their antics - particularly during the quad races and some good showmanship - wheelies and doughnuts (very impressive - Hargreaves I think?) after race wins. All in all, worth the visit and for novelty value the price - programmes a bit steep though £4. Will probably go again next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I see Les Collins did not do too badly still think there is a place in the PL for this guy what a role models for the youngsters .The guy just wants to ride and IMO his age is not an issue but to many others it is !!!!!!!!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hear Hear Totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Only went to the afternoon meeting which i usually do. i agree it was quite lack lustre with 3 or 4 good heats. but come on whingers - its SPEEDWAY ON ICE!! its NEVER gonna be proper racing and it should only be fun. I thank all the riders for trying and having a go. On the plus side it was great to see david lHowe look the star performer in the afternoon, i think i jinxed him when i told he should do ok on the evening! sorry David lol the crashes were pretty spectacular tho and im glad all got up and walked away. i think the main problem with telford now tho is that riders have a better understanding of how the elements work and so theres a lot of the `fun` element lost. i remember in the earlier days you were amazed that they ever completed a race never mind get thru the meeting. if thats what people call fun then i personally dont. but its good to see that it levels up all abilities tho, thats the interesting part to me. ill be at telford 08 - no whining from me - its a fun day BEFORE the start of the season. Go or dont go!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czechhero Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Hear hear, Steve. As a first timer, I enjoyed it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 ill be at telford 08 - no whining from me - its a fun day BEFORE the start of the season. Go or dont go!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If David Howe was in Phil Morris' position you'd be saying different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Un Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 How many wheels did they have over the line? Could the referee see the line clearly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 How many wheels did they have over the line? Could the referee see the line clearly? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> does it matter, its not the GP is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinstripe Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 been to telford three times and its the day out that does it for me, the racing is never any good it consists of riders making mistakes. the buzz is going with friends to the event and having a good day out, the racing is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Un Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) does it matter, its not the GP is it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was only wondering because if only the front wheel was over the line, that is within the rules: If the referee could not see the line clearly how could he exclude anybody. It does not matter to me at all but then I was not there and other people have different expectations. Obviously you do not think the racing at Sheffield is import, after all it is not GP racing is it? Best wishes, Judy Edited February 12, 2007 by The Little Un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 no what i was saying was that it wasnt meant to be deadly serious with loads of money riding on the outcome, it has always been a fun day out, why spoil the fun by excluding riders and having three rider racers. apart from the play offs last year most of the matches didnt matter as we were always going to qualify for the play offs, this year will be different because there are only four teams in the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawa/gm Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 any pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 no what i was saying was that it wasnt meant to be deadly serious with loads of money riding on the outcome, it has always been a fun day out, why spoil the fun by excluding riders and having three rider racers. Ok, so why was the race where Tom Brown fell not stopped a re-run? It meant that heat of the pairs was over and they had no chance. Surely on ice, a little leniency should be allowed on the 1st bend? It should if it's allowed on the 1st bend of lap 2!!! Broadhurst fal oln his own in a heat that really means something, he's re-instated, Tom Brown falls in a race that that mean just as much (it a knock out format) and he lets the race carry on. It's quite obvious, the referee is a racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) why spoil the fun by excluding riders and having three rider racers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because it's still a speedway meeting. You can't ride dangerously, take someone out to get a rerun and expect to be in the re-run in 'real speedway' why should you be allowed to in this? Yes it's a bit of fun but Phil Morris wanted to win that meeting yesterday and there were people who wanted him to win it. He was effectively robbed of the title. yes it's a bit of fun, but if the riders are going to take it seriously, why don't the people who make the decisions? Edited February 12, 2007 by Silver Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlata prilba Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Would the outcome be any better if they moved the event from Telford to say maybe the NIA in Brum or Gmex in Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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