Denmark Under 15's

[morganbike]

I counted 48 riders

Peter Oakes stuggles to get 12 riders in the british under 15's 2006.Fair Play they are on 500's

What will 2007 produce.Today Belham has ONE 250 laydown engine left till April 07.People are flocking to buy them NOT.

 

I can name around 10 under 15's for 2007 speedway Championships on 250 and 500.

Take a look at the danish lign up.We should be the leading nation.Why Coz they all flock here to ride.The promoters and track owners do not care about the youth in this country.I am throwing thousands of pounds at youth speedway and can't even get a guarenteed saturday winter practise.

Should I be setting up camp in Denmark and buying a 80cc bike with a mechanic to look after it.Then Fly out every weekend to practise for 8 hours on Sat and Sun.

Why has Lee Richardson got his stuff on E -Bay ? How embaresing.The British leagues will be full of foreigners soon and how many times have you watched sky on Monday and gone Oh rubbish they are all forein riders on both teams.

British promoters YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

 

LOOK HERE

 

http://www.worldspeedway.com/artman/publis...ticle_420.shtml

Edited December 6, 2006 by morganbike

[iris123]

48!!!!!!

 

Look here.140+ in the 80cc.Not sure how many in the 50cc

 

And don't take too much notice of the averages.Because all 4 leagues are in one list riders who have 9 or 10 point averages in division 2/3 or 4 have converted averages,so they are all clubbed together

 

 

And here is the 50cc list.151 riders there

Edited December 6, 2006 by iris123

[morganbike]

Iris,

I new you would be the first reply on this one !.How proud you must be as a nation.I am very envious of these figures and would love my son to be around this many riders at any event.Well done to the German youth organisers.

Phil

[iris123]

No,no,no.That is the Danish list.I am a Londoner living abroad.And while i enjoy watching the youngsters in the 80cc leagues,i am saddened at the lack of opportunities British youngsters get.In Denmark there are at least 2 days practice plus a match at the weekend for the youngsters.I was talking to Morten Risager when he was making his comback from injury and he was out on track every day for a few weeks.Those opportunities just are not available in Britain.For one speedway usually magpie like occupies another sports stadium,whereas in Denmark the to a lesser extent Germany they are speedway stadiums first and foremost.How do we compete with that set-up?Most tracks also have open days,where kids can try out speedway absolutelly free of charge!!!!!Everything is supplied.

I was at the meetings you linked to and it was a great disappointment that youngsters from Australia came over(and did themselves proud)while not a single rider came from nearby Britain

 

Here is an ariel pic of Slangerup.Esbjerg for instance has 3 track,plus a MotoX circuit!

 

And my name is Doug,by the way Sorry about the iris thing

Edited December 6, 2006 by iris123

[Great Central]

Haven't got time to check that there are no duplications within the 50cc and 80 cc listed riders but I make it a total of 291 on small speedway bikes out of a population of 5.4 million people.

In the UK, my estimate going around the tracks, is probably no more than 70 youth riders maximum, and that could be pushing it. Population of the UK 60.4 million.

Of course that doesn't take into account how many of those in Denmark and the UK do grass tracking, but it doesn't take a genius to work out that the odds of Denmark producing many top class riders far outweighs the odds of the UK doing the same.

Morganbike is right. The promoters, and the ACU and the BSPA need to wake up and get organised. This winter has certainly seen far more opportunities for practising and I would like to thank all those promoters for putting on the sessions but as iris 123 noted, free training is present in Denmark for the yougsters to try it before "buying".

Peter Oakes has done a good job getting the U15/U18 Championship up and running as well as the Academy League but it is not a job for a man with so many other jobs. It is a full time job and the BSPA need to recognise that fact. The SAL was an attempt to give the youngsters a chance so promoters please get organised in 2007, get some rules laid down and really make it happen nationwide and not just in the south.

Additionally, the u15 championship needs to understand what machinery is to be used and if it is 250 cc bikes then why not have a 125 championship as well, or an 80 cc one. Just get some rules into it - if 80cc and 125cc bikes are good enough in Denmark for producing World Champions, why not here. Answer there are not enough tracks of the right size, so come on BSPA, get out there and get some built. You don't need huge ares of land for a mini speedway track.

[Guest Christophers Dad]

And my name is Doug,by the way Sorry about the iris thing

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I thought it was just me i used to be Suzy but only at weekends

Edited December 7, 2006 by Christophers Dad

[Peter S.]

hey,

 

GC, if there are any duplications it can only be if any moved from 50 to 80 during the 2006 season, thats very rare. Once you have taken the tracktest on 80 you cant ride 50.

 

Not that i know the full story, but in Denmark the youth speedway didn't come from the "top". It was groups of parents, many of them former riders, who started it on a field, then build a track and so on.....

 

If you ask the older speedway people, and even DMU representatives etc., many of them still think 50cc is a waste of everybodies time. 80cc is a bit more accepted but is still often only seen as a preparation for 500cc. We ,parents and riders, see it as a "sport in the sport" because we all know that not all riders will carry on to 500cc.

 

The "loss" of riders when transforming from 80 to 500 is a big discussion over here. one argument is the costs, but rinding 80 on a higher level is also VERY expensive, so I dont belive that one. 500 is another game altogether and many dont realise that also other sports "lose" many youngsters when they are 15 - 17 just because they get other interests etc..

 

It is, by the way, possible to ride 80cc untill and including the year you turn 18, but you can start 500 from the age of 15 ( again if you started 500 you cant go back to 80 ). We actually had 11 - 12 year olds competing against ( and beating ) boys who afterwards took their own car and drove off.

 

As a final note the current SWC champions all comes from 50/80 speedway.

 

See you

Peter

 

ps: One thing we really envy is your winter practice, we don't have that here.

[morganbike]

Yes I totally agree our Winter practise is available as our climate is warmer maybe.Distances travelled though are neccesary and cost is high.Rain the last month has put a stop to 50% of practise venues but Redcar and Scunthorpe seem to succeed each week.Its 175 miles to Scunny and 215 to Redcar one way so the riders below the midlands area will struggle.Newport is popular and has been hit by bad weather along with the Oxford plans.Buxton is ideal for training but the weather is hit and miss.Roll on April.

[SCB]

What suprises me in this country is the lack if places to LEARN to ride. You can practice at a couple of tracks but where can you learn to ride speedway?

 

Is it the same in Denmark? Do they have training schools? Practice sessions? What?

 

I see little point in little 12 year old Johnny riding around lap-after-lap doing things wrongs lap-after-lap. Old habits die hard and all that.

[iris123]

Peter S is better qualified to answer that than me,but i believe Kristian Lund has been involved in training the youngsters this year.Think he has been helping with the natonal side.Not sure if he has been helping at his local track,Outrup

[Sir Jasper]

Morgan bike, I beleive that if you are prepared to do it then you should look at the Denmark, you may not be able to do it as much but the saying goes quality over quantity.

 

The grasstrack scene is good however it does not teach our kids how to ride speedway, to the Danes it is second nature to ride speedway.

 

I am very impressed with their set up and look on enviously.