New Year Classic

[Guest Steve Dixon]

[lovinspeedway]

first of all well done to david howe for winning the new year claasic and to all the lads for riding and putting on entertainment on such a difficult track.

the best race of the day i thought was the young lads challenge match tim webster and sam hurst put on a great race togetha and dun well to stay on there bikes.

but i must say i have seen alot of vast improvement in tim webster since last season he is much smoother and faster and he got out them gates really well and won 2 races i was suprised i got to say well dun to him someone must be training him well.

Edited January 15, 2007 by lovinspeedway

[SCB]

and photo 36, us turncoat Coventry fans get everywhere

[superguest]

You would say that, just as I'm going to say that I'd prefer to see the team winning a competition that one rider winning a glorifed practice session (as thats all it is to Bomber and Howe).

 

Rider to impress me where Howe and Bomber (duh!) and Glenn Cunningham (), Werner is also impressed for a 5.5 rider.

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Hey I said it 'Kinda' Made up for it. The full revenge is yet to come

Edited January 15, 2007 by superguest

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Hey I said it 'Kinda' Made up for it. The full revenge is yet to come 

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I think you'll find what happened was Bomber made the gate which made David look bad and he was pulling away so he started to feel sorry for David as he knows David won't be able to win any individual meetings this year while Bomber is winning GP's for fun. Bomber decided on the last bend to give David and the Wolves fans something to cheer about in what will be a terrible 2007 for them

[G the Bee]

Good to see some speedway on Sunday. Felt gutted for Chris as he was leading the final comfortably until the last bend, but these things happen. To be honest, apart from a second ride blip, he looked a cut above the rest of the field.

 

I must say, I was quick to jump to the defence of the Newport promotion last week, but I was not massively impressed with the running of this years NYC.

To me, the final two or three heats were spoiled by the track being wet after the 15 minutes or so of rain we had towards the end of this meeting. The weather was overcast throughout the meeting, with banks of cloud continuously rolling overhead. From our vantage point on the back straight, it was also clear that a band of rain was heading towards the stadium, yet no attempt appeared to be made to speed the meeting up. The meeting started at 1pm and yet, the final heat did not finish till around 3:20. People do not want to be standing around for over 2 hours in the middle of winter or get rained on if they can help it.

 

It is perfectly possible to run a heat approximately every 5 minutes. Even accounting for re-runs etc it should still have been possible to finish this meeting in well under 2 hours. Priority should have been given to completing the meeting proper as soon as possible and the juniors and quads could then have raced after the main event itself. If the weather had been clear yesterday, then I could have accepted a drawn out affair but there was always a risk of rain.

Edited January 16, 2007 by G the Bee

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The weather was overcast throughout the meeting, with banks of cloud continuously rolling overhead.  From our vantage point on the back straight, it was also clear that a band of rain was heading towards the stadium, yet no attempt appeared to be made to speed the meeting up.

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When it happened at the Newport vs Rye House meeting and I had the cheek to post the same on this forum, I got a bollocking from the ass lickers (meeting was rained off after 11 heats). So how the hell you can predict the fact it was likely to rain just because there where big black crowds coming from behind the 1st/2nd bend (the rain has been coming from that direction for 10 years now, you'd think Tim Stone would know), the ass lickers don't know!!

 

Thing is, I don't think Tim Stone cares by then because he has your money.

[tanya]

Thing is, I don't think Tim Stone cares by then because he has your money.

 

So young and yet so cynical! Perhaps the riders didn't want the track altered, there was no track inspection.

[Vince]

I know that when we were in the pits we had no idea what was behind the stand weather wise. When we had a shower everybody was saying "gosh and golly, where did that dashed rain come from" - or words to that effect. I didn't hear any of the riders pass any comment at all about the rain effecting the track.

 

Off at a bit of a tangent, has anybody noticed how keyboards and large amounts of special brew have the same effect on some people. Firstly it makes them add words into what started out as a reasonable comment that turns it into a rant. It makes them say things that they wouldn't normally be brave enough to and it seems that both are capable of making the quietest mouse believe he is a lion.

See below for a example of binge keyboarding.

 

When it happened at the Newport vs Rye House meeting and I had the cheek to post the same on this forum, I got a bollocking from the ass lickers (meeting was rained off after 11 heats).  So how the hell you can predict the fact it was likely to rain just because there where big black crowds coming from behind the 1st/2nd bend (the rain has been coming from that direction for 10 years now, you'd think Tim Stone would know), the ass lickers don't know!!

 

Thing is, I don't think Tim Stone cares by then because he has your money.

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[Kit]

Off at a bit of a tangent, has anybody noticed how keyboards and large amounts of special brew have the same effect on some people. Firstly it makes them add words into what started out as a reasonable comment that turns it into a rant. It makes them say things that they wouldn't normally be brave enough to and it seems that both are capable of making the quietest mouse believe he is a lion.

See below for a example of binge keyboarding.

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*lol* Since when has SCB been a quiet mouse????

[GREDON]

Have been to most of the New Year Classics and they normally provide a welcome break during the Winter. However this years is the worst I have ever seen, not helped unfortunately by the condition of the track, due to rain over the previous weeks, also the rather watered down line up due to having to cancel the previous week, which meant some riders could not come back. Like others the meeting did seem to drag out and whilst Tim Stone tries to put on a value for money show, I would prefer to see just the Classic and not have it interspersed with Junior races. As already mentioned the toilet area downstairs left a lot to be desired, and would not have passed a health and safety test. I do not expect to have to wade through water to gain access, although would add there was nothing wrong with the toilets themselves. When is Tim Stone going to spend a bit of money tarting the place up a bit. Some Emulsion paint on the walls in the corridor would help and I do not want someone suggesting I do it. For a 200 mile round trip I expect better than this.

[Diesel]

For a 200 mile round trip I expect better than this.

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To be fair, you knew the line-up was going to be missing a few names from the original date, you knew the walls weren't painted with emulsion, you knew the track would be wet and you knew there would be junior races. The only thing you didn't knw was that there was a puddle by the toilets.

 

I'd say pretty much you knew what to expect for your 200 mile round trip.

[BobC]

Take into consideration that riders are not race fit,testing new bikes,getting over Christmas/New Year festivies like the rest of us,I wouldnt criticise the riders at all.

 

Remember,it may have been a bit chilly and damp on the terraces,but they were getting covered from head to toe in all that wet stuff.Credit to them all for at least having a go.I sincerely thank them for that.

 

I know it wasnt 'classic' racing,but then again,I went there not expecting to see that either.I was just pleased to see some action.

 

My only moan was the delays between races.I agree with others,that this should have been speeded up.

 

Then again,I suppose its impossible to please everyone all the time.I know our party all enjoyed the day,from the time we left Poole to the time we got back.

 

See you round the tracks later this year folks.

Edited January 16, 2007 by BobC

[Sandie]

I know that when we were in the pits we had no idea what was behind the stand weather wise. When we had a shower everybody was saying "gosh and golly, where did that dashed rain come from" - or words to that effect. I didn't hear any of the riders pass any comment at all about the rain effecting the track.

 

Off at a bit of a tangent, has anybody noticed how keyboards and large amounts of special brew have the same effect on some people. Firstly it makes them add words into what started out as a reasonable comment that turns it into a rant. It makes them say things that they wouldn't normally be brave enough to and it seems that both are capable of making the quietest mouse believe he is a lion.

See below for a example of binge keyboarding.

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SCB and special Brew - hehehehehe

[SCB]

I prefer mouthwash myself

 

Vince, you should know by now, that day I was very pissed off, so much so that until this weekend I have not been to Newport since. That day was a shambles, the only people who would not say so are the people who have been on the special brew! Then to come on here and have people defend it, that really was insulting!

[judgejules]

To be honest I wasn't going to bother with this meeting, but Diesel didn't want to get his pimp mobile dirty so I had to drive him.

 

The positives;

 

The track was pretty good considering the weather Newport has had to contend with over the last few weeks. The riders gave it a go and there was some competitive racing.

 

Phyllis looked like he will score loads at PL level, God how many years have I waited for him to sign, at last we have got him!

 

Nicky and Tim both looked good and should provide a solid couple of riders for the Mavs in 2007.

 

The negatives;

 

The presentation was woeful, I'll put up with delays between heats so long as we get some info - Sunday we got none. Jason Harold may be ok on his breakfast show with a script in front of him but he is crap at commenting on live meeting.

 

It pains me to say it, but Sam really does look a shadow of the rider he was, hopefully he will turn it around.

 

Off at a bit of a tangent, has anybody noticed how keyboards and large amounts of special brew have the same effect on some people. Firstly it makes them add words into what started out as a reasonable comment that turns it into a rant. It makes them say things that they wouldn't normally be brave enough to and it seems that both are capable of making the quietest mouse believe he is a lion.

 

Vince, if you really feel that strongly you don't have to look far to confront the people making the comments you object to. Nearly all of them are in the crowd every Sunday, why not leave the pits and come and speak to us?

Edited January 16, 2007 by judgejules

[The Little Un]

The meeting was due to start at 1pm and the final result was through to live-updates by 3.25pm.

 

There were sixteen races in the main event.

 

How many other races were there?

 

How many races were re-run?

 

If Tim Stone had said that this year we are not going to have any supporting races and just the minimum number of races possible and get through them in 90 minutes, people would be here moaning that he wanted to give the minimum possible to make the maximum profit possible.

 

Two and half hours to run such a meeting this time of year sounds good to me.

 

Though I could not make it, I think it is fantastic that Tim puts on a show this time of the year and many promoters have tried to get all winter meetings banned over the years.

 

People are moaning about things like puddles but how many said anything to the people in charge?

 

People say about getting the staff to do things when Newport like most other clubs have to rely on volunteers to do many jobs. Not every stadium owner is a millionaire like at Coventry. It looked to me like Newport has much better viewing facilities than my own club Arena.

 

Best wishes,

Judy

[G the Bee]

If Tim Stone had said that this year we are not going to have any supporting races and just the minimum number of races possible and get through them in 90 minutes, people would be here moaning that he wanted to give the minimum possible to make the maximum profit possible.

 

Two and half hours to run such a meeting this time of year sounds good to me.

 

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Under normal circumstances this might be acceptable, but bands of dark clouds were rolling overhead throughout the meeting and they were coming in quickly. As a result there was a clear threat of rain. Therefore, the meeting should have been pushed through. The time of year had no bearing on the speed of this meeting. There were only a few re-runs, mainly for a couple of unsatisfactory starts.

I'm not saying have no support races, just that they should have been after the main event. You do not get the juniors coming out after every four or five heats in a normal league match but, rather, they come out after the main event. Get the main event over in 90 minutes, have an interval and then a second half. The rain certainly spoiled the end of the meeting for me. Bomber's winning time for heat 15 was over 66 seconds, nearly 5 seconds slower than his time in heat 13, so although the riders might not have actually complained, they were certainly affected by conditions. I think the last couple of heats and the final were pretty much non events, with riders tip-toeing round the track.

It's frustrating because it could have been avoided so easilly just by looking at the sky!

[The Little Un]

Under normal circumstances this might be acceptable, but bands of dark clouds were rolling overhead throughout the meeting and they were coming in quickly.  As a result there was a clear threat of rain.  Therefore, the meeting should have been pushed through.  The time of year had no bearing on the speed of this meeting.  There were only a few re-runs, mainly for a couple of unsatisfactory starts.

I'm not saying have no support races, just that they should have been after the main event.  You do not get the juniors coming out after every four or five heats in a normal league match but, rather, they come out after the main event.  Get the main event over in 90 minutes, have an interval and then a second half.  The rain certainly spoiled the end of the meeting for me.  Bomber's winning time for heat 15 was over 66 seconds, nearly 5 seconds slower than his time in heat 13, so although the riders might not have actually complained, they were certainly affected by conditions.  I think the last couple of heats and the final were pretty much non events, with riders tip-toeing round the track.

It's frustrating because it could have been avoided so easilly just by looking at the sky!

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The reason why they have these extra races between certain heats is because of riders having two rides in a row, which the rules allows them to take extra time between their two rides. So they hardly hold back a meeting at all and twelve rider meetings tend to have more races where a rider has two in a row than sixteen rider events.

 

Best wishes,

Judy

[Vince]

Vince, if you really feel that strongly you don't have to look far to confront the people making the comments you object to. Nearly all of them are in the crowd every Sunday, why not leave the pits and come and speak to us?

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I will happily talk to anybody and have spoken to SCB several times when he has been polite and no problem to chat to. There was no need for the childish name calling in that post and it's not the way he is away from his keyboard was the point I was making. Of course there is another slight hitch in that I have no idea who most of you are!