Stenners Annuals

[speedyguy]

Does anyone agree with me on this fault with the Stenners annuals?

 

In the team and other analysis, they tend to give only the surnames of riders - not even initials.

 

With the passage of the years, it's hard to identify who these riders were in many cases.

 

More modern annuals do give initials, and in recent years we have had full names.

 

I wonder why Stenners did this? Any comments.

[star ghost]

I don't suppose they put that much thought into it then. After all the match rsults in Speedway magazines never used to quote the poor old 4th placed man.

Wilf Jay once told me that the riders didn't worry if the 4th places they got were not recorded as there were no points money for them.

[speedyguy]

I don't suppose they put that much thought into it then. After all the match rsults in Speedway magazines never used to quote the poor old 4th placed man.

Wilf Jay once told me that the riders didn't worry if the 4th places they got were not recorded as there were no points money for them.

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That's as maybe in regard to the points money, but all four riders were paid start money.

 

I think the Speedway Star in 1956 started the inlusion of the fourth place rider in heat results, also with reasons for not finishing. It also used to give the second-half race results for most meetings.

That's in the time when it was edited by the man people think is me but is not - John Hyam.

[Knowle]

Using surnames only could be a throwback to the era such as the 1950s when professional sportsman were often referred to by their surname only.I even remember reading a pre-war Bristol programme where the promoter Mr Ronald Greene referred to one of his individual riders in such a manner e.g I had a word with Bloggs about his non-appearance at so and so track last week.

[speedyguy]

Using surnames only could be a throwback to the era such as the 1950s when professional sportsman were often referred to by their surname only.I even remember reading a pre-war Bristol programme where the promoter Mr Ronald Greene referred to one of his individual riders in such a manner e.g I had a word with Bloggs about his non-appearance at so and so track last week.

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I am certain that you are on the right track there. As I read old material on various sports, it is surnames only in most case. And there was a time when we only had an initial in main articles like cricket's W Hammond, football's S Matthews, etc.

 

Certainly, not the personalisation of competitors to what we know today. It was just a distant thought then.

 

Still it's interesting to see that riders like Hamley rode for Bradford in 1946, Horne for Belle Vue, Pennell for Newcastle etc. Trouble is it doesn't mean much to someone researching these teams 60 years on. As it happens, I do know these riders full names - but no thanks to Stenners!

Edited November 23, 2006 by speedyguy

[born_2b_mad]

Maybe you could help me out here speedyguy?

 

In my detailed list of riders that have worn the red and yellow of Wimbledon, I have a rider named N PIQUET that rode in 1949.

 

Can you shed any light on this rider?

 

Thanks in anticipation

[speedyguy]

Maybe you could help me out here speedyguy?

 

In my detailed list of riders that have worn the red and yellow of Wimbledon, I have a rider named N PIQUET that rode in 1949.

 

Can you shed any light on this rider?

 

Thanks in anticipation

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Have a vague recollection of this name: I think (offhand) that it was Nigel. Will try looking elsewhere (not Stenners!) and if I find anything will come back.

 

Perhaps our good friend Norbold can advise? Or maybe Ian Perkin who wrote a history of the Dons a couple of years ago.

[KevH]

Maybe you could help me out here speedyguy?

 

In my detailed list of riders that have worn the red and yellow of Wimbledon, I have a rider named N PIQUET that rode in 1949.

 

Can you shed any light on this rider?

 

Thanks in anticipation

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My record books show him to be M Piquet b2bm, not that it helps much I guess.

[speedyguy]

Maybe you could help me out here speedyguy?

 

In my detailed list of riders that have worn the red and yellow of Wimbledon, I have a rider named N PIQUET that rode in 1949.

 

Can you shed any light on this rider?

 

Thanks in anticipation

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I have been searching and found that Mick Piquet rode second-half at Wimbledon in 1946 - thanks to the Speedway Reseearcher. Haven't gone beyond that into other seasons.

 

Hope that this is the same guy.

[born_2b_mad]

Well the name ties in with Kev's record so looks like he is the man.

 

Thanks very much...............database updated!!