Guest Donsking Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Final result Dugard from the tapes, Kennett runner up, McConnell third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Final result Dugard from the tapes, Kennett runner up, McConnell third. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Donsking have you been drinking (the meeting was listed on page 34 almost 2hrs ago ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Donsking Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Never been to this event before, so wasn't sure what to expect, but turned out to be a very entertaining day. Seemed a bit odd watching them virtually going round in circles and couldn't quite decide if there was too much grip or not enough; saw plenty of guys slide on their backsides, but also a few situations where the bike just seemed to bog down mid corner and highside. Lewis Bridger looked decidely average, especially when he behaved like a spoilt child after being excluded, having never seen him before I'd go so far as to say I can't see what all the fuss is about. Impressed by a couple of the Yanks, Charlie Venegas looked pretty useful and I thought Shawn McConnell displayed all the right attributes for a pro sportsman, shame we never saw him much over here when he was a bit younger, very smooth and stylish. Seemed a bit amateur night in places (there's a few riders who need to be working on their sliding technique, I would suggest) but, on the whole, if you've never been before, book your tickets for next year with confidence, I know I will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Donsking Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Donsking have you been drinking (the meeting was listed on page 34 almost 2hrs ago ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry, skipped down the page and saw the lineup, missed the result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Lewis Bridger looked decidely average, especially when he behaved like a spoilt child after being excluded, having never seen him before I'd go so far as to say I can't see what all the fuss is about.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Must admit Donsking I am really surprised at Lewis behaviour if what you say is true, this is very unlike him. I also read somewhere else on the forum or on the updates that he had spat his dummy out, again I feel this is very unlike Lewis. I have seen him ride quite a few times now and I like his style, first time I saw him was at Iwade when he rode for Weymouth and I thought he stood out then, hopefully this was just a blip today and will not repeat itself in the future. Lewis is good and will got places as long as he keeps a level head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Donsking Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 It was really stupid. The MC had interviewed him earlier and he came across as quite a level headed kid, then he stuffed his bike into the barrier, picked himself and the damaged bike up and, as he was pushing it away, the announcement came out that he was being excluding for primary cause of stoppage and he just threw it on the ground and stomped off, like some petulent child who's been told he can't have some sweets. I know these blokes work hard and get pretty strung out when they make mistakes, but you don't get far if you can't keep your head in a crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemma Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 (edited) It was really stupid. The MC had interviewed him earlier and he came across as quite a level headed kid, then he stuffed his bike into the barrier, picked himself and the damaged bike up and, as he was pushing it away, the announcement came out that he was being excluding for primary cause of stoppage and he just threw it on the ground and stomped off, like some petulent child who's been told he can't have some sweets. I know these blokes work hard and get pretty strung out when they make mistakes, but you don't get far if you can't keep your head in a crisis. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fair enough, but he's only 17, it's all part of the learning curve and to me he obviously just wants to win. What's wrong with that? A lot of the British riders get slated on here for supposedly not being agressive enough or not having enough ambition... Lewis Bridger isn't the first rider to throw a bit of a tantrum after a disappointing result and he wont be the last. Plenty of older riders are just as bad. To me the most annoying part of the day were the people sat two rows behind who took it upon themselves to yell 'Get Olly out', 'It was Olly's fault' and booed him whenever he was in a race. Not quite sure what he'd done to to offend them, but they thought it was hilarious to continue their 'joke' throughout the meeting. Guys if it was funny the first time, believe me any modicum of humour had evaporated by the 100th time. Pathetic. On a positive note I enjoyed the day as usual! And great to bump into 21stCH while out and about! See I'm not scary am I?! Did Steve Turner look scared to you?! Edited December 12, 2006 by Jemma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Donsking Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Fair enough, but he's only 17, it's all part of the learning curve and to me he obviously just wants to win. What's wrong with that? A lot of the British riders get slated on here for supposedly not being agressive enough or not having enough ambition... Lewis Bridger isn't the first rider to throw a bit of a tantrum after a disappointing result and he wont be the last. Plenty of older riders are just as bad. To me the most annoying part of the day were the people sat two rows behind who took it upon themselves to yell 'Get Olly out', 'It was Olly's fault' and booed him whenever he was in a race. Not quite sure what he'd done to to offend them, but they thought it was hilarious to continue their 'joke' throughout the meeting. Guys if it was funny the first time, believe any modicum of humour had evaporated by the 100th time. Pathetic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see what you're saying, but he wasn't having a great meeting anyway (I know this isn't proper speedway) and someone on here has said he wasn't taking this year's event too seriously; it's just not the way to behave, and I don't like that kind of petulence in any sportsman, regardless of age or experience. He seemed perfectly happy until it was announced that he'd been excluded, but thems the rules, just go with the flow; spitting your dummy out in front of the people who provide you with a living is not the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemma Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 He seemed perfectly happy until it was announced that he'd been excluded, but thems the rules, just go with the flow; spitting your dummy out in front of the people who provide you with a living is not the way forward. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Perhaps not, but he'll learn. Making a few mistake a long the way is the best way to learn anything IMO. We all do things in the heat of the moment, or when were younger that we might regret after or wouldn't do now with a few more year's behind us. I just think the bar is set a little bit too high for some of these kids, because really that's what a lot of these lads still are, and I just think it's a bit unfair to expect them to get it right all of the time. Speaking more generally, a lot of the world's greatest sportman have a petulent side to them, or some element that people don't like - take Jason Crump as a case in point - people may not always like them, but I wonder if sometimes that side of their character is part of what makes them a success. Take it away and would they be as good? The trick is perhaps learning how to channel it in the right way - and that comes with experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Aww come on, he knew that with him excluded that that then ended the chance of his pairing of winning....I think I would be a little narky at that. It wasn't even that bad...in fact it was very panto like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Donsking Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 You are right in what you say, that 'losing is not an option' streak is what makes good sportsmen, but, in this media savvy age, sportsmanlike behaviour needs to be part and parcel of the steep learning curve towards the top of the successful sportman's career. I know that I didn't get far enough in any of my chosen sports because I was too 'nice' and, as we all know, nice guys finish last, but that kind of display needs to be nipped in the bud, before he gets himself a reputation. As I mentioned earlier, I was very impressed with Shawn McConnell, and it was just the little things that touched me; he got booed when he appeared to take out Ed Kennett, but I was sitting in the South Balcony directly looking at the apex of turn 3/4 and it was like he said, he got under Ed, who then appeared to almost stop, collision inevitable, you can only go so slow. But I noticed that if Mad Dog was even remotely involved in any kind of incident, his first thought was to make sure the other guy was OK. He also made a point of nodding a thankyou to anyone that push started him, unlike the other riders. I know Shawn has 30 years more age and experience than Lewis, but these are the things that need to be taught at an early age in today's sport. You need to race hard, but when descisions go against you, you have to take it with good grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 You don't need to convince me on Mad dog.....I just think he is great! I still love the reaction of the academy riders (especially the younger ones) when they won a heat....you could tell it meant a hell of a lot to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) Totally shattered this morning. A big, big thanks to Dave and Brendan Johnson and BobC for a great day - now that 8am start all makes sense! Guys - Bob was right - you are all totally nuts on meeting days - in the nicest possible way! I'm seeing you all in a whole new light. Great laugh. The meetings were the same as I remember from previous years but it did seem to drag on a bit in the evening, but that's maybe cos it was a long day. Great to see the academy lads give their all - well done to Bren and Matt Bates on their points and hope Richard Franklin's wrist isn't as bad as first thought. Good to see the usual reprobates from Coventry during the afternoon and nice to say hello to 21CH and Kitten there yesterday too. Edited December 11, 2006 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Have to say I was very dissappointed by the bonanza this year. And people seem to be voting with their feet now. That has to be the smallest attendance since it started. Lots of empty seats around us in the South balcony this year which is always full, despite a lot of posters around Brighton this year. The event is rapidly turning into the Duagrd & Kennett show. I know you don't nessercerly need top riders but it makes it a lot more interesting to have a couple in there. In the past there was always someone along the lines of Hancock, Loram, Karlsson in the field etc. Also not much was made of it being the 10th Bonanza. Whats happened to the flashing lights and and fireworks there use to be in the past. I know that it is a fun event and like the idea of the yellow and red cards in the programme, but sometimes Kevin Coombes is taking it far too far. What on earth was the need for the run off between Venegas and King when Venegas had a win and had also beat King in the heats. Why was there no reserves, ok Schwartz and Boxall weren't able to come and the programmed reserves replaced them but they must of know a couple of days before hand and could of got a couple of reserves in for when riders couldn't ride due to injuries and damaged bikes. For the last 9 years we've traveled a long way from Manchester, seriously considering not bothering next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Have to agree with most of what Rob has said, I think this will be my final Brighton Bonanza unless things change drastically. Apart from the Academy Lads there was little to enjoy, the pairs in the afternoon was ok but the Individual in the evening was pure unadultered boredom. If that is fun I'll not bother. The red and yellow cards are ridiculous just dragging things out even more, and was I the only one who noticed that everytime Dugard missed a gate he went down to get a rerun!! I stand to be corrected but Im sure there were more reruns than heats in the second meeting. People are voting with their feet, and for a tenth anniversary there was little to cheer The presenter was patronising to the kids and rabbited on about nothing most of the day. Get in Craig Saul who I saw was there, he would surely do a better job. Agree the runoff with Venegas and King was totally pointless. They need a venue with a longer and slightly wider track or this event will decend into farce. The only good part, bar the Academy lads, was catching up with some Speedway friends and visiting the various stalls. Role on some real speedway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I've never been to this event so maybe i shouldn't really comment , but i watched it on Motors tv last year and it looks a very strange event indeed . Maybe it is different being there , but the track looks far too small and tight as the riders all seemed to get to the first turn and run into each other resulting into reruns for almost every race . Maybe i'm missing something , but it doesn't look anything remotely like speedway . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searley Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 well done Ed on coming second and i hope robbo is ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Aww come on, he knew that with him excluded that that then ended the chance of his pairing of winning....I think I would be a little narky at that. It wasn't even that bad...in fact it was very panto like! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh No it wasn't!!!! Good to see the usual reprobates from Coventry during the afternoon and nice to say hello to 21CH and Kitten there yesterday too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Chivs, Jay and Turner say it was nice to see you again too!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I agree it needs something of a revamp. I know the whole event is basically just a bit of fun and not to be taken too seriously, but one thing that has irked me this year and last was the attitude towards helmet colours. Surely the organisers should make some effort to get the riders to wear the correct helmet covers as these are the main way in which newcomers/casual fans are going to identify riders. There was a group of clearly first-timers from the local area in front of us in the evening and they were patently puzzled by who was who on several occasions.. The Yanks seem completely to disregard the need for helmet colours. Green was used more often than the apparently required (according to the prog.) white one. If they’re going to use Green (and after all we’re all used to it by now..) then use it and not confuse matters by saying it should be white! And then there was the Rockets pairing of Robson and Allen junior who seemed to swap randomly (or maybe for a purpose..??!!) their designated colours – confusing even the ebullient Mr. Coombes!! Of course, this is a relatively minor point I’m squibbling about (so no change there, I hear you cry!!!) – but to me it gives an unnecessary amateurish impression and puts off the casual observer, when surely the aim of this sort of event (if it’s to be a commercial success and bring in more fans to the sport in general) should be the opposite..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirelnutkins Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) Left Guildford yesterday at 9.30! Got to Brighton about 11am(Ish)! Went to Wetherspoons for a few drinks and then wondered off to the Brighton Centre about 12! Had a look around the stalls and bought some goodies! Didn't think Brighton was as good this year! There wasnt much atmosphere! Don't they usually play 'Hey Baby' and i thought they would have played 'Amerillo'! They sometimes put on a lil firework display after the meetings if i remember correctly? Was abit dissapointed that i didn't get to meet up with CrazySue and others that i wanted too!Good to see Shannon Ruane there ! I still have your Xmas card! Saw Lora and spotted Sandie and Nikki walking into the centre! Not sure if i was ignored or they generally didn't spot me, Hope Lora gave you your Birthday and Xmas card Sandie and Nikki! Went to Wetherspoons during the main interval and had something to eat! Spotted Ed Kennett in there! Seems like he is getting fed up with Brighton as well! I know i am and alot of other people are! Had to rush off straight after the meeting! Got blown to bits! Blimey... That wind was really bad! Edited December 11, 2006 by Squirelnutkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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