sjw ministerofport Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I hope that we have Scott Nicholls and Chris Harris in the GP's next year. Scott is getting better all the time, and his rivalry with Hans Andersen is pushing him to new heights. Don't forget that Hans was dropped from the GP's because he didn't finish in the top eight last year. Now he has hit a patch of form which showes his true class. Scott I think was his equal before this season and I think we may see him become equally as good or close to. As for Chris, he is improving fast and with him and Scott being at the same club, there is bound to be a rivalry growing between them, both wanting to be number one at their club and also the best British rider in the GP series. As for Mark Loram I thgink he is still good enough, but I doubt he will be given the chance. Bring back a full qualification system, and make it fair for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 By which you mean domestic championship and international elimination rounds to qualify, free of quotas? If so, I totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjw ministerofport Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Yes AndyM, that is what I mean. Every rider should have the chance to qualify for the series, I can understand the reasoning behind picking a certain few riders from each country, but it still seems a little false to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I am a big Mark Loram fan and think it would be great to see him back in the GP's but I personally think it should be Nicholls and Bomber. From what I have seen of Bomber on Sky this year he is by far streets ahead of any of the other British riders, with the exception of Nicholls. I think Loram has had his chance and Stead is not yet ready and put him in the GP now may do more damage than good. So for me, Bomber of Nicholls, sorry Loramski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Harris did himself the world of good scoring 17 in front of BSI yesterday. Especially as he preformed better than Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 More MARKETABLE ???!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said SCR I am a big Mark Loram fan and think it would be great to see him back in the GP's I think Loram has had his chance So for me, Bomber of Nicholls, sorry Loramski. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not that big a fan, that you can right him off for the GP series next year then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Not that big a fan, that you can right him off for the GP series next year then <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, just think it is time for the younger generation to have a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I wonder if this may be reconsidered if his collar-bone injury prevents him from making the top 8 !! Has a ready made excuse now ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Never short of excuses, ready made or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Nicholls will be in the GP next year, whether qualified or seeded. As for the 2nd Brit, imo, BSI will go for an ex-World Champ (Loram) rather than Harris who will get the Cardiff Wild Card. Harris' current form puts him in front of Stead. I am surprised that nobody has mentioned Andy Smith though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willp Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Scotty should be in there whether he qualifies in the top 8 or not, he's our top rider and we need him in there. Between bomber and loramski, i'd have either, both are great value for money and would be great additions to the gp series. The only thing that goes against mark is his age but if he is good enough then..... You know what the simple answer is to this don't you, have all 3 in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I have the feeling they will only have one brit next season and that will be Scott Nicholls. Apart from the three qualifiers, I think now, the last name to be added will be Karol Zabik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Subdei Are you gonna let us in to why you have this little vendetta against Nicholls??? As for next year...i cannot see Zabik getting in cos if Gollob and Hampel get through that would be 5 poles....And not being rude but none of them have looked like World Champion material this year...although Zabik of course is still learning Jirout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I don't have a vendetta against Nicholls. I just don't see why his serial failure should be rewarded year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year. If memory serves, he was in the top eight up until Bydgoszcz last season and then flopped at Bydgoszcz and Lonigo, which took him out of the top eight. Andersen, a GP winner was defenestrated from the series, Nicholls was included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Year after year after year after year.....twice i believe it is......And i beleive 99% of us have agreed that Andersen should have been in this year but his place went to Niels Kristian Iversen not Scott Nicholls......Yes maybe he has underachieved but he has shown signs that he is climbing that ladder...so why encourage BSI to make the same mistake they did last year with Andersen...We all have our riders we like and dislike but surely you have to go beyond that and see what is best for the GP series and British Speedway jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Year after year after year after year.....twice i believe it is......And i beleive 99% of us have agreed that Andersen should have been in this year but his place went to Niels Kristian Iversen not Scott Nicholls......Yes maybe he has underachieved but he has shown signs that he is climbing that ladder...so why encourage BSI to make the same mistake they did last year with Andersen...We all have our riders we like and dislike but surely you have to go beyond that and see what is best for the GP series and British Speedway jb <{POST_SNAPBACK}> which all goes to show why there should be proper qualifiers that every rider should go through, not because your face fits or you're the right nationality ... the only way of getting the better riders involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Steve Bajerski came through the qualifiers...as did Chronowski....Brhel...Laukanen...Jirout...need i go on....I agree qualifiers are the way...but lets have it at Kings Lynn and see the real riders coming through rather than a massive dust bowl in Poland..where power matters rather than skill...Think you will find Nicholls,Loram and Harris would all qualify.,...but Ed might just miss out :-) JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) Steve Bajerski came through the qualifiers...as did Chronowski....Brhel...Laukanen...Jirout...need i go on....I agree qualifiers are the way...but lets have it at Kings Lynn and see the real riders coming through rather than a massive dust bowl in Poland..where power matters rather than skill...Think you will find Nicholls,Loram and Harris would all qualify.,...but Ed might just miss out :-) JB <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nicholls was afforded ample opportunity to qualify this season. He chose not to bother himself with such mundane things. And, anyway, two of the GP rounds are on what you refer to as "Polish dust bowls", so aptitude on such tracks is quite important. Furthermore, a Polish dust bowl has to be better than the abortions served up at Cardiff and Copenhagen this season. And what is best for the GPs and British speedway is to have guys in the series on merit. It does Nicholls no favours handing him charity entry year on year on year. Look at what being left out has done for Andersen. It's done him the world of good. Maybe it would be the same with Nicholls. Edited September 6, 2006 by Subedei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houdi Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Subdei Are you gonna let us in to why you have this little vendetta against Nicholls??? As for next year...i cannot see Zabik getting in cos if Gollob and Hampel get through that would be 5 poles....And not being rude but none of them have looked like World Champion material this year...although Zabik of course is still learning Jirout <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Think it is similar to his previous vendetta against AJ,perhaps he just has a thing against Bees riders.Perhaps Scott and AJ need to take out Polish nationality,I think you will find that might do the trick. I believe Scott finished 9th last year and was in the top 8 before he broke his collarbone and since the grand prix are for the top 15 riders,I can't see what the problem is.Unless people are suggesting Scott isn't in the top 15 in the world,I don't think even Hans would say that. Perhaps you actually have to see riders in the flesh regularly,rather than sitting by a computer screen monitering the Polish leagues to properly appreciate certain rider's talents. Perhaps the rider who should be dropped from the series is Gollob,who whils't on occasions still produces moments of magic,often looks disinterested and a pale shadow of the rider he once was. Same with Bjarne the idea that he is not a world class rider beggars belief,as I'm sure every Poole fan would testify,along with us Bees fans who saw his performances last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Think it is similar to his previous vendetta against AJ,perhaps he just has a thing against Bees riders.Perhaps Scott and AJ need to take out Polish nationality,I think you will find that might do the trick. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not worthy of comment. I believe Scott finished 9th last year and was in the top 8 before he broke his collarbone and since the grand prix are for the top 15 riders,I can't see what the problem is.Unless people are suggesting Scott isn't in the top 15 in the world,I don't think even Hans would say that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe the criteria was finishing in the top eight. I believe ninth is not in the top eight. Perhaps the rider who should be dropped from the series is Gollob,who whils't on occasions still produces moments of magic,often looks disinterested and a pale shadow of the rider he once was. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Much as it might annoy you, but Gollob always manages to finish in the top eight. But, I see your reasoning, drop a rider who consistently finishes in the top eight to make way for a rider who consistently fails to finish in the top eight. Same with Bjarne the idea that he is not a world class rider beggars belief,as I'm sure every Poole fan would testify,along with us Bees fans who saw his performances last week. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What's Bjarne Pedersen's average these days? A couple of good meetings and he's suddenly a viable rival to Crump? BP has his good days, but generally he's only an above average rider. Next season he'll be pottering around on the same average as this season. The guy just isn't a top line rider - although he's won one more GP than Nicholls and that was way back in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) Think it is similar to his previous vendetta against AJ,perhaps he just has a thing against Bees riders.Perhaps Scott and AJ need to take out Polish nationality,I think you will find that might do the trick. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not worthy of comment. I believe Scott finished 9th last year and was in the top 8 before he broke his collarbone and since the grand prix are for the top 15 riders,I can't see what the problem is.Unless people are suggesting Scott isn't in the top 15 in the world,I don't think even Hans would say that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe the criteria was finishing in the top eight. I believe ninth is not in the top eight. Perhaps the rider who should be dropped from the series is Gollob,who whils't on occasions still produces moments of magic,often looks disinterested and a pale shadow of the rider he once was. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Much as it might annoy you, Gollob always manages to finish in the top eight. But, I see your reasoning, drop a rider who consistently finishes in the top eight to make way for a rider who consistently fails to finish in the top eight. Same with Bjarne the idea that he is not a world class rider beggars belief,as I'm sure every Poole fan would testify,along with us Bees fans who saw his performances last week. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What's Bjarne Pedersen's average these days? A couple of good meetings and he's suddenly a viable rival to Crump? BP has his good days, but generally he's only an above average rider. Next season he'll be pottering around on the same average as this season. The guy just isn't a top line rider - although he's won one more GP than Nicholls and that was way back in 2004. Edited September 6, 2006 by Subedei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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