Biddows Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 The guys in the studio and the commentators spent most of the evening talking about Sullivan's new tyres, but does anyone actually know how they were any different? Surely all tyres have to conform to the same regulations, so a tyre is a tyre is a tyre. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I think in the studio they said it was a tad wider than the average speedway tyre, as they were talking about the grooves at the gates at the time, then again I might have dreamt that bit as kept dozing off seemed to have a bit more of a grip on it though didn't it? It was also mentioned that Ole Olsen chose Ryan to test out the new tyre during the GP. Or did I dream that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Butler Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 The guys in the studio and the commentators spent most of the evening talking about Sullivan's new tyres, but does anyone actually know how they were any different? Surely all tyres have to conform to the same regulations, so a tyre is a tyre is a tyre. Right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe Mr Millard said Sullivan had retyred! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 They did say that it is a tad wider, and I think that it really is a tad from the way they were speaking. The tyre was sanctioned, and it was used by a rider who's points have no affect on the standings. I really don't see the problem in it being used. Certainly didn't help much in the semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I knew I wasn't dreaming cheers 21ch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Did they say it was a Barum tyre? I seem to remember hearing that, or perhaps they are all that make anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Yes they did. I want to say that Dunlop make the tyres, but I've probably completley made that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 (edited) Barum used to be part of the Jawa-Skoda-Zetor conglomorate in the old Czechoslovakia. And Tony Millard at one point said Ryan Sullivan would be crowned world champion without having to ride another race. That was just one of a few howlers tonight. Edited August 27, 2006 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 (edited) made of rubber wasnt it who gives a toss anyway didnt stop his mechanic stuffin up a heat of his Edited August 27, 2006 by richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 So there wasn't any whiff of an accusation that this tyre was somehow illegal then? This sort of thread tends to start with an implication that the rider has got an unfair advantage. I take it extra width is OK within the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Why are they developing new tires for speedway? I see no reason for any kind of modifications to tire diameters. Only thing to develope in my mind is the rubber configuration to make it last more, therefore lowering the cost's involved. But I'm just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Perhaps it was a new compound? it seemed to help him early on...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 The compound of the tyre and the width both make the tyre grippier and safer, in the 60's right through till about 83, i think, the tyres were all bigger and had deeper grooves, they lasted longer and even if the track was slick you got a hell of a lot more traction than you do now, riders used to be allowed to "cut " their own tyres thus making more grooves for even more traction. In the early 80's there were Barum tyres, dunlops, and one the Americans used called a carlisle, then for some reason they changed the size and depth of the grooves and made all riders use the same tyre, check out coventry's programme for the different track records for each size tyre. I hope this means that someone is trying to get racing back into speedway, problem is if all riders use the same tyres you'll be back to square one with the fastest riders clearing off into the distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStartTart Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 The compound of the tyre and the width both make the tyre grippier and safer, in the 60's right through till about 83, i think, the tyres were all bigger and had deeper grooves, they lasted longer and even if the track was slick you got a hell of a lot more traction than you do now, riders used to be allowed to "cut " their own tyres thus making more grooves for even more traction. In the early 80's there were Barum tyres, dunlops, and one the Americans used called a carlisle, then for some reason they changed the size and depth of the grooves and made all riders use the same tyre, check out coventry's programme for the different track records for each size tyre. I hope this means that someone is trying to get racing back into speedway, problem is if all riders use the same tyres you'll be back to square one with the fastest riders clearing off into the distance. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm remembering back a few GP years now... wasn't their some kind of controversy about tyres, FIM insisted that these tyres were used and riders said they were dangerous. Is it possible that Ryan's "new" tyre was similar in construction to these "old" ones? TST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 That was to do with solid block tyres if I remember correctly. The riders were dead against using them as they lowered the grip of the tyre but the FIM insisted on their use. Can't remember if they were used in league speedway or just GPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Saint Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 .... I hope this means that someone is trying to get racing back into speedway, problem is if all riders use the same tyres you'll be back to square one with the fastest riders clearing off into the distance. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What a silly comment! If racing came back into speedway, crowds might improve and the sport become more exciting to watch once again. Completely against the ideas of the BSPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 Sorry!!! for a moment there i thought that maybe the BSPA, BSI or FIM were thinking of actually entertaining the paying public for the large amouts of cash that they make out of us each meeting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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