Reviresco Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 It is good to see Nicholls with some bike speed recently (does his dad not do his engines anymore?) and with a battling attitude. All the things British sports fans should enjoy in a British sportsman. Brits are too quick to knock their sportspeople. The Nicholls/Andersen situation has been mirrored many times over speedway's history and can only be good for the sport (rivalry = controversy = publicity) as long as it doesn't go too far and people start getting hurt. And they are both riding brilliantly at the moment and are their nations' captains. Any other sport's publicity and marketing people would be making great capital out of it now. I admire both of them (well, I admire all speedway riders) and can't wait for the next version of 'what comes around, goes around'. I guess Hans will be well received the next time he is at Brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Well, I have now seen the race at last. I was unable to watch it last night but recorded it and saw it this morning. Having watched it several times, I think it was a very tough decision to make. No doubt a 50-50 call. I think if I'd been the ref I would probably have excluded Andersen but I've got no real argument with the decision. Andersen was not 100% at fault and the decision certainly doesn't make speedway "a joke". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Had a look at it this morning and looks they were just haveing a fight witch scott got the better of then hans took a dive in the box and the ref pointed to the spot . Felt sorry for scott as hans was out with the washing when nicki took a another dive and try to get scott ex with scott in a clear second place, nicki looked a right pratt after trying to defend himself . You got to give scott a lot of credit for someone who can't gate at this level for toffee he fights and battles for second and third places to get into this semi finals and for a rider in my eyes has not that much talent punches way about his weight by sheers guts to get where he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Had a look at it this morning and looks they were just haveing a fight witch scott got the better of then hans took a dive in the box and the ref pointed to the spot . Felt sorry for scott as hans was out with the washing when nicki took a another dive and try to get scott ex with scott in a clear second place, nicki looked a right pratt after trying to defend himself . You got to give scott a lot of credit for someone who can't gate at this level for toffee he fights and battles for second and third places to get into this semi finals and for a rider in my eyes has not that much talent punches way about his weight by sheers guts to get where he is. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed wholeheartedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Scott looked as though he was shoving all the way down the straight. Hans probably kept to the left to stay on. The referee should have got them both together and told them to cut it out. The track was too wet and dangerous for that kind of nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Agreed wholeheartedly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Macca no-one ever agrees with Orion, do they hun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 And Nicholls riding style and attitude is different? Talk about biased! I honestly think it was a 50/50 decision - bith riders were riding stupidly IMHO and it was always going to end with someone hitting the deck. I think the ref probably should have excluded Andersen but Nicholls was hardly and innocent party in the whole thing! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lupos I`m not biased I`m expressing an opinion! I`ve got reasons for not particulaly liking anderson but thats my problem. Just for the record I`m not a great fan of nicholls either but he tries? It just seems that when something is said "against" Mr anderson we are biased etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Indeed it will, World Champion in 2007 or 2008 I think that you need to sound out Prozac suppliers before then <{POST_SNAPBACK}> why would I need to do that?Just watch a GP and you fall asleep!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 If it was after the first lap,i was asleep <{POST_SNAPBACK}> point taken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Lupos I`m not biased I`m expressing an opinion!I`ve got reasons for not particulaly liking anderson but thats my problem. Just for the record I`m not a great fan of nicholls either but he tries? It just seems that when something is said "against" Mr anderson we are biased etc. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't particularly like either rider - I'm certainly not an Andersen fan but my point is that people see the behaviour of a foreign rider in a different way to a British rider - like it or not this is being biased. Fact is that niether rider was willing to give an inch in that race and, using your 'logic' they've probably both got 'what's coming to them'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Saint Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 There have been many comments to the effect that it was a 50/50 decision. Perhaps it is time to look again at the requirement to exclude someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Still, it's all good fun and we've got a fair few pages to go if we're going to catch the "scamming Panthers" thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I don't particularly like either rider - I'm certainly not an Andersen fan but my point is that people see the behaviour of a foreign rider in a different way to a British rider - like it or not this is being biased. Fact is that niether rider was willing to give an inch in that race and, using your 'logic' they've probably both got 'what's coming to them'! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeh I take your point. I havnt got a problem with foreign riders,honest!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Fact is that niether rider was willing to give an inch in that race and, using your 'logic' they've probably both got 'what's coming to them'! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which is why it has to stop now before someone gets seriously injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Which is why it has to stop now before someone gets seriously injured. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree - the animosity between Andersen and Nicholls does appear to becoming unhealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I can't believe this, 10 pages and counting again over Hans v Scott I notice no thread on the Crump v Lindbach episode, (or if there is not 10 pages). Nothing anyone says will change the decision from last night, and I think we all ought to thank those brave riders for riding in atrocious conditions. What seems to have started as a bit of rivalry at the Witches in 2004, has now got to the stage where if they are not careful someone will get hurt. I'm afraid all this discussion on the TV doesn't help as they are so biased they can't see the truth(or not as the case may be) if it came and bit them on the nose. Scott is a hothead, and at times loses his head and Hans is completely the opposite and is cool and determined, both dangerous when roused. It does make for exciting racing, but at the end of the day safety must come first. I do think it sad that people have to resort to name calling etc., if a decision goes against their favourite rider, not necessary and I suspect untrue to boot. My feelings on the matter, for what it is worth, Scott had his luck in Lonigo and this time wasn't his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Scott is a hothead, and at times loses his head and Hans is completely the opposite and is cool and determined, both dangerous when roused. Cool and determined ......... ermmmmm didn't you see the coverage of the WTC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I can't believe this, 10 pages and counting again over Hans v Scott I notice no thread on the Crump v Lindbach episode, (or if there is not 10 pages). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do you seriously think young Shovlar would let the Lindback-Crump clash go without a few comments? That incident is well documented within the meeting thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Cool and determined ......... ermmmmm didn't you see the coverage of the WTC? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Complete the sentence,....dangerous when roused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dode1 Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Don't think Nicholls deserved to be excluded for Hans falling,(and I had money on Hans tonight), but then I thought there was a clearer case for exclusion for Pedersen going down. (and strictly IMO even clearer case for Crump being excluded earlier). All I'd say is when you set a precedent all evening of excluding the rider who has gone down it was a bit strange to take the opposite view in the Nicholls/Andersen incident. Just shows how hard it is for referee to make the right decision, as opinion seems completely polarised on all these incidents. At the end of the day it was probably best that AJ won, given many will consider that Hans was more than slightly fortunate to even be in the final. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i think hans had decided it was to wet and he was heading for the grass (going by his thoughts on rain when racing in GB) but scott was saying no you dont. Or maybe he wanted to try scotts bike for size, cause he had his top half on it so all he had to do was throw his leg over lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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