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they were side by side going into the bend, if anything nicholls was in front, the nature of speedway is to slide the bike so the back wheel is going to come out, with hans leaning all over nicholls the only way hans could have avoided being touched by nicholls back wheel is if nicholls didnt turn. Nicholls had the line going into the bend, hans had to concede the bend or risk falling off and being excluded (although not in this case obviously) that said hans did go down ridiculously easily

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Crump again shows his true colours. Dangerous on Monday at BV, Dangerous tonight. Someone needs to give him a Boyce style smack in the mouth to bring him in line.

 

Behave :angry:

 

Crump had the right line but the slow Lindback was in the way and then turned back in front of the 2006 World Champion as he came steaming through the yawning gap :rolleyes:

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Nice one AJ. Quaility rider. Just wish he had the hunger of some of the other riders and he'd be up there challenging for the title. He has the talent thats for sure and in full flow is as good to watch as any rider. :approve:

 

Have my own views on the incidents, but as I'm not a great fan of a couple of the riders involved anyway it might not be that objective so I'll keep my opinions to myself. ;)

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Cannot see how Scott was excluded if Crump was not when racing against Lindback, lovely to see AJ win I am sure now that he has broken his duck many more will follow, as he himself said that the nerves have got to him in the past. Hopefully we can see the future World champ back at the bees next year with a lovely 7 point average. WELL DONE AJ A THOUROUGHLY DESERVED WIN. :lol:

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Nice one AJ. Quaility rider. Just wish he had the hunger of some of the other riders and he'd be up there challenging for the title. He has the talent thats for sure and in full flow is as good to watch as any rider.  :approve:

 

That's what I've been saying all along. He's a huge talent and finally, tonight, with a helping hand from lady luck when it counted, he won. Congratulations to him.

 

Have my own views on the incidents, but as I'm not a great fan of a couple of the riders involved anyway it might not be that objective so I'll keep my opinions to myself.  ;)

 

That's a shame, I'd like to have read your thoughts.

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Nice one AJ. Quaility rider. Just wish he had the hunger of some of the other riders and he'd be up there challenging for the title. He has the talent thats for sure and in full flow is as good to watch as any rider.  :approve:

 

Have my own views on the incidents, but as I'm not a great fan of a couple of the riders involved anyway it might not be that objective so I'll keep my opinions to myself.  ;)

Agree totally about aj, lots and lots of talent and could be the best if he tried.

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Everyone has ranted and raved about how Crump should have been excluded and Nicholls shouldn't etc etc.

 

First of all a big congatulations to all the riders for giving it a go thus proving they can ride in the rain.

 

Secondly congratulations to AJ...a thoroughly deserving winner and the best rider on the night without a doubt.

 

Thirdly Crump was right not to be excluded, Lindback went too wide and Crump had more speed on the inside. IMO Lindack went down a bit too easily but in the conditions probably had no choice.

 

Finally...Nicholls and Andersen is becoming like Penhall and Carter all over again. The only one who will lose out is speedway, as the personal battle between those 2 could start to endanger others.

 

All in all not a bad GP considering the conditions.

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Since when? You used to do nothing but slag him off! :blink:

Actually, Subedei has always Champions AJ's talents but he has slaggged off his commitment to British Speedway and to a lesser extent his commitment to get to the very top. I don't believe Subedei has been wrong in much he has said about AJ at all (until last week :P)

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So then guys, where does Scott hit Hans coming out of the bend?

 

Did Scott really forget to turn going into the bend?

 

Who's elbow moves first?

 

Who's leaning and in what direction?

 

Who's leading going into the bend?

 

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/chrisbrown/scottyvshansHQ.avi (about 15 MBs)

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So then guys, where does Scott hit Hans coming out of the bend?

 

Did Scott really forget to turn going into the bend?

 

Who's elbow moves first?

 

Who's leaning and in what direction?

 

Who's leading going into the bend?

 

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/chrisbrown/scottyvshansHQ.avi (about 15 MBs)

 

 

1 Yes

2 Scotts

3 Scott Right

4 Hans.

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1 Yes

2 Scotts

3 Scott Right

4 Hans.

Actually, it's

 

No (watch where Scott is compared to the white line, had he turned any sooner he'd have bene over it!!)

 

Hans has his elbow stuck out coming out of the bend (his perogative tho) but Scott is the first to elbow the other after the netx point

 

Hans (left), really quite clear if you look at the view form behind and the view from behind. Scott is actually seen leaning left.

 

Hans/Scott are side by side. Having watched it over and over it depends on what view you watch, I thikn Hans just has it.

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Actually, it's

 

No (watch where Scott is compared to the white line, had he turned any sooner he'd have bene over it!!)

 

Hans has his elbow stuck out coming out of the bend (his perogative tho) but Scott is the first to elbow the other after the netx point

 

Hans (left), really quite clear if you look at the view form behind and the view from behind.  Scott is actually seen leaning left.

 

Hans/Scott are side by side. Having watched it over and over it depends on what view you watch, I thikn Hans just has it.

 

One thing seems certain......... scott seems to go quicker with Hans just in front of him!!

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Lol SCB. :lol:

 

Much as the Hans v Scott 'grudge' makes for entertaining viewing when the two clash, I just hope that the red mist doesn't descend to such a stage that they endanger each other or worse other riders on the track. It seems they both like to get one over the other, and the sparks are just waiting to fly each time. Both as bad as each other imo, which is fine for the viewer, just as long as they don't get too stupid about it.

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One thing seems certain......... scott seems to go quicker with Hans just in front of him!!

 

would you agree that hans was only slightly in front because Nicholls is virtually dragging him along due to the fact that hans is sprawled across Nicholls much in the same way that the Hans groupies would like to sprawled across hans?

 

( not picking an argument just want to know your opinion, and also not accusing you of being a hans groupie :lol: )

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