Gp Qualifying Final

[FlyinRyan]

Just like to add my thanks to Anders for the updates tonight - great work!!!

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I don't think Harris is good enough. On the basis that there has to be two Brits, Mark Loram should replace Lee Richardson in my opinion.

[T.N.T.]

As Hans Andersen is now in the GP series as a replacement for TRick, doesnt his scores count now as he is not a short term replacement.

 

If his scores do count, then he will surely finish in the top 8 and therefore PK should get the third spot from this meeting.

[J_D]

It has already been confirmed Hans points do not count in the final standings he cannot be seeded by finishing in the top 8 as he failed to qualify this year. It is in the FIM rules of the event.

 

Peter Karlsson will be 1st reserve for next year.

[Steve081196]

How can a man who scores 14 not qualify ??? sorry but finals in qualifiers must be stopped . on a performance like that PK should qualify imo

[J_D]

How can a man who scores 14 not qualify ??? sorry but finals in qualifiers must be stopped . on a performance like that PK should qualify imo

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agreed

[heathen till i die]

Harris I feel has a slightly more get up and go feel to him than Stead. Stead seems too suffer from Nicholls disease.

 

 

 

what a pity all the brits dont suffer from nicholls disease, maybe then they would all be joint sixth in the world !!!!!

 

what a stupid post / idiot !!!

[T.N.T.]

The FIM have shown a lack of forward thinking in this qualifying system I think.

 

8 go through from the GP Series - Great

 

1 wild card at each GP - Good for Italy, Czecho, Germany

 

however, if they are to hold a GP Challenge meeting and finish the meeting with a final, why didnt they allow the top 4 (finalists) to go through to the GP series

 

This would still leave 3 nominated places for Mr Gollob, Mr Nicholls and Mr ?

 

 

 

 

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Top 8 from GP, 1 wild card at each event plus Jagus, Holta and Andersen leaves 4 nomination spaces.

 

At present, Jaroslaw Hampel, Antonio Lindback and Matej Zagar are outside the top 8 an these three would be first on the list for nominations.

 

As you can see below, they are not too far behind Nicholls (6th), Pedersen (7th) and Gollob (8th) but even if they did get above any of these three, they would also be prime candidates for nominations also.

 

Therefore, I would say its who gets that ONE place available and chances are it will be given to a British rider like Simon Stead. Chris Harris would be one of the reserves anyway after tonights meeting.

 

1st CRUMP, Jason 20 25 25 25 20 25 16 = 156

2nd HANCOCK, Greg 5 20 20 16 13 9 12 = 95

3rd PEDERSEN, Nicki 25 14 16 4 6 9 11 = 85

4th JONSSON, Andreas 8 5 10 20 7 9 25 = 84

5th ADAMS, Leigh 10 7 11 6 12 16 18 = 80

6th NICHOLLS, Scott 9 9 5 8 8 20 8 = 67

7th PEDERSEN, Bjarne 5 6 7 12 18 10 8 = 66

8th GOLLOB, Tomasz 18 9 18 7 3 7 4 = 66

9th ANDERSEN, Hans - - - - 25 18 20 = 63

10th HAMPEL, Jaroslaw 4 16 8 18 2 4 10 = 62

11th ZAGAR, Matej 9 18 4 9 4 10 4 = 58

12th LINDBÄCK, Antonio 9 2 6 8 16 4 3 = 48

13th RICKARDSSON, Tony 16 6 4 10 5 - - = 41

14th IVERSEN, Niels-Kristian 2 6 4 5 8 5 6 = 36

15th RICHARDSON, Lee 8 4 0 5 9 4 4 = 34

16th PROTASIEWICZ, Piotr 1 3 3 3 1 3 4 = 18

Edited August 19, 2006 by TNT133

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Therefore, I would say its who gets that ONE place available and chances are it will be given to a British rider like Simon Stead. Chris Harris would be one of the reserves anyway after tonights meeting.

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Right so Stead should get seeded and Bomber is a reserve!!!!!!

If a Brit gets a nomination its got be Bomber.

With regards to an earlier post calling for Loram, how can you justify putting Loramski in front of Harris or PK?

[paul90210]

I am a coventry supporter so i know i am going to be called biased, but i have been thinking for a while that lee richardson is a waste of space as far as the grand prix is concerned, and whilst i agree that simon stead is a good rider, and will only bet better i do feel that the time is right to push bomber into the grand prix series next year and see what he can do.

 

I think he will start off slow till he finds his feet then go from strength to strength and probably finish just outside the top 8, and judging by his coventry form over the past couple of seasons he will just keep getting better and better.

[Grachan]

Didn't Loram opt out of the qualifiers? So I see no reason why he should be in the GP.

 

Lee Richardson and Chris Harris look the likely two to pick from if one more Brit is allowed. Lee hasn't proved himself this year, and has also opted out of the qualifiers so I wouldn't give it to him. In fact, if he's at Swindon next year, I'll be glad if he's not in it. It might improve his league form.

 

Therefore it has to be Harris, who has shown he can do some good meetings at international level. I don't see him doing any better than Richardson has this year to be honest, but there's no other choice really.

 

Loram is a better rider, but Harris deserves it more.

[f-s-p]

Didn't Loram opt out of the qualifiers? So I see no reason why he should be in the GP.

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Not pointing you out in anyway, but this is one more point that proves that you lot should stop undermining the Speedway Star and read it for a change. The SS covered this weeks ago.

 

He was forced out through a technicality, he wanted to be there...

Edited August 20, 2006 by f-s-p

[Grachan]

The 'technicality' being that he didn't enter it.

[f-s-p]

The 'technicality' being that he didn't enter it.

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Dont have the issue here now, but it had something to do with the fact that he had not signed a "statement" saying he'd consider british racing as top priority. This paper has been there for a few years, he'd never sign it, and BSPA decided that this year it would be the year that it would be forced. Therefore Mark was ruled out to participate in the British final. BUT he was picked for the World cup.

 

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[SCB]

Not pointing you out in anyway, but this is one more point that proves that you lot should stop undermining the Speedway Star and read it for a change. The SS covered this weeks ago.

 

He was forced out through a technicality, he wanted to be there...

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Loram said, even if he had not forgot the minor techicality of signing his contract, he still may not have rode in the GP rounds!!!

 

Lorams screwed things up for himself IMO.

[Aries]

Harris I feel has a slightly more get up and go feel to him than Stead. Stead seems too suffer from Nicholls disease.

what a pity all the brits dont suffer from nicholls disease, maybe then they would all be joint sixth in the world  !!!!!

 

what a stupid post / idiot !!!

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Joint sixth hey? wow what a star

[The Know]

I don't think Harris is good enough. On the basis that there has to be two Brits, Mark Loram should replace Lee Richardson in my opinion.

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I think it is a toss up between the two. lee is 100% out if not in the top 8 which is not going to happen. Harris i think should get a shot at it and if loram had half decent equipment could do very well. Why not put both in and have 3 brits.

[Sir Jasper]

Joint sixth hey? wow what a star 

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Well I am sure Stead would take that at the minute......

[Hazzman]

Harris I feel has a slightly more get up and go feel to him than Stead. Stead seems too suffer from Nicholls disease.

what a pity all the brits dont suffer from nicholls disease, maybe then they would all be joint sixth in the world  !!!!!

 

what a stupid post / idiot !!!

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No need to attack the poster for my opinion. Nicholls despite the last 2 GPs has been a bottler and bottles it on the big occasion. 6th position does not get noted in the history books, top 3 does however.

[big lebowski]

Only an idiot would attack another poster for giving their opinion. Admittedly, Stead isn't good enough for the GP's. Should purely go down to who qualifies, regardless of nationality. Good luck to all who qualify. Andersen should give Crump a run next year, but I expect the Aussie Ace to make it title no.3, but then I guess some would say 'Ahh yes but that's only 'cos TRick isn't there any more',

[spin king]

Well none of our three quailfy for he Grand Prix, the only rider we appear's to have chance of automatic qualification to next years Grand Prix is Scott Nicholls.

Of the rest I would discount Mark Loram, and Lee Richardson, Loram because the guy has had his time, and Lee because over the time he has proved that he is not consistent wins a race and gets three zero's.

I think if the organiser's are going to give a nomination for one English rider then it has to be either Bomber Harris or Simon Stead, me personally I would go for Simon, but I can understand the people who are calling for Bomber, and to be honest I don't think there is much between them.

What we don't need is Mark Loram been chosen, we need to blood fresh riders, and as much as I like Mark Loram, he has had his time. We got caught out at the World Team Cup with bringing in Chris Louis in for Simon Stead. The fact that Chris Louis did no better than Simon did, showed that we need now to get behind riders like Simon Stead and Bomber, who are going to the leaders of the next generation of riders.

Look at the Danes who have stuck with the same group of young riders for the last three or four seasons, not got them instant results but has eventually.