sirmatty Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 go scotty go scotty go scottie right section this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Thought you was watching the Top 50 Goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmatty Posted July 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Thought you was watching the Top 50 Goals <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i wish the top 50 minus the best 3 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Now there must be forums out there where people are asking how Scott Nicholls persuaded Tony Steele for that decision. Not here of course, because we would never stoop so low as to libel a top-line referee. So let's just say that if he's the best ref out there and has replays of every race at his disposal, how come blatantly wrong decisions still occur, even if it is in favour of a Brit? We need all the help we can get! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Now there must be forums out there where people are asking how Scott Nicholls persuaded Tony Steele for that decision. Not here of course, because we would never stoop so low as to libel a top-line referee. So let's just say that if he's the best ref out there and has replays of every race at his disposal, how come blatantly wrong decisions still occur, even if it is in favour of a Brit? We need all the help we can get! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because he is a pratt, and as for scott how he can call riders dirty is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 But you are "the know" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 But you are "the know" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And what are you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highside Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 All those people calling Hans Anderson dirty in the world cup Scott Nichols included,how didhe get away with that tonight wiping Zagar out on the STRAIGHT what a dirty B**TARD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 At that level there is a very fine line between dirty and hard racing. Thought Mr Steele got both major decisions wrong, I would have excluded Pedersen for taking away Iversen's leg and Scott for wiping out Zagar but there you go, thats speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Well, I appear to be in a minority of one on this, but I reckon the ref made the right decision. Yeah, Nicholls hit Zagar going down the straight - I suppose you could argue a case for unfair riding there - but he didn't knock him off. Watch the replays. Zagar does the old 'shut the throttle and bail out' trick that has become common place these days to get a race stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 At that level there is a very fine line between dirty and hard racing. Thought Mr Steele got both major decisions wrong, I would have excluded Pedersen for taking away Iversen's leg and Scott for wiping out Zagar but there you go, thats speedway Funny, I thought Tony got both of those decisions right. Nicki held his line in the race with NKI and Iversen tried to go where Nicki already was. To exclude Nicki for just holding his line would have been very ahrsh in such a situation. As for the Scotty/Zagar incident...as I said on the other thread, Zagar got a relatively small hit on the straight and bailed out. If he can't hold on to the bike in such a situation he shouldn't be in the GP. Bjarne took much worse in the other semi final and still stayed on his bike! The one decision I thought Tony got wrong was the race to the line between Nicki and Bjarne... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 That was a atough one to call and admit I did think Nicki had it, but only by a tyre-tread. If a dead heat had been called I don't think many people would have argued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Well, I appear to be in a minority of one on this, but I reckon the ref made the right decision. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As for the Scotty/Zagar incident...as I said on the other thread, Zagar got a relatively small hit on the straight and bailed out.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Make that a minority of two then! That's how I saw it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I thought (as Kelvin Tatum rightly said) that the Pedersen / Iversen one could have gone either way, but for me the Nicholls / Zagar incident was pretty clear cut. Scotty's move had reckless and desperate written all over it after he cocked the previous corner (?) up and without doubt he caused Zagar to fall. But hey you need a bit of luck now and again and I'm pleased to see Scott on the rostrum as I'm sure is his No.1 fan shooting star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kindred2005 Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 i'm glad scotty got some much needed points, but i have to say, if that had happened the other way round, with scott coming off, would we all be saying scott shouldnt be in the grand prix because he couldnt hack it? or would we, as people have done in the past (as in at wolves earlier in the season) blame zagar and say he doesnt know how to ride fair, how can someone do that etc etc? i'm a cradley turned coventry fan but i have to say nicholls has started getting a little bit TOO aggressive now, being involved in a lot of these scenarios, maybe he wants to be the new nicki pedersen? it was a shame for greg too because after a hard fought two laps the race had settled with andersen and hancock going through, now crump is too far in the lead to be realistically caught. with all these pent up aggression happening between riders at the moment its only a matter of time before someone does get seriously hurt, and i can see the excuse from the guilty riders now.........."well he started it!!" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 i'm a cradley turned coventry fan I realise that you have lost your own team, but to become a Coventry fan...shame on you!!! Still, better than a Wolves fan, I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kindred2005 Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 lol, well, comes with following greg and billy around, then liking the rest of the coventry youngsters, plus i was young enough in 96 to be let off with bein called a traitor, i was only 13!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 For quite a few years Scotty has been accused of being a woos, not being hard enough and backing off instead of going for it. Now, at last, we are seeing some real passion in his riding and of course some aggression, which riders must have to compete at the top level, but now he is being slated for being dirty. Its no good saying "after you" to everyone that challenges his position, what use would that be. Scott wants to be World Champion one day, as does probably every speedway rider in the world but to get to the top he has got to compete with the top riders in the world at their level. Guts and determination and pure adrenalin has got Jason Crump and Hans Andersen where they are at the moment, probably the best 2 riders in the world. Scott has got to match that to succeed and sometimes decisions go for you and sometimes against you. Scott has had his fair share of things going against him in the past. I'm not saying he has to ride dirty to win, but it is bloody tough out there and no-one will give you an inch. I bet every speedway rider in the world has been on the rough end of a refereeing decision, but you win some and you lose some, tonight it was Scotts turn for good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ring sting Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 The pass on Zagar was hard but fair in my opinion.In all different sports now everyone goes to ground too easily these days.Look at Anderson and Pederson last week locked together but stayed on their bikes.On the tv they said Scott took Zagars leg away how can you do that on the straight? Zagar knew he was passed so in my opinion lay the bike down hoping for another chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Zagar went left quite a bit as Scotty was coming through on the inside at a far greater speed. I'd say Scott could have avoided the clash, but at the same time, Zagar was going too slowly and still tried to block him. So, a fair call from the ref. But it could have gone either way really. Don't think Nicki touched Iversen at all, so no problem with that decision either. And going by the helmets alone, because we couldn't see the front wheels, Bjarne was just ahead of Nicki, so another good call, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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