marko Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Have seen it several times in slow replay, and I could not see any faults of Hans here. Chris, the acter, Harris just laid down the bike and the ref. got fooled. Pretty much the same thing happend at Arena at start of season when Hans passed Leigh Lanham on the inside and Leigh dropped it, there was possibly a little minor contact as per last night but some riders find it all to easy to just take a dive than stay on knowing they will lose a race position. Hans understandibly a very frustrated rider because every time he gets near another rider of lesser ability they expect the worse and are almost waiting for that chance, its almost as bad as diving in football, soon riders will be too afraid to try and pass for fear the other will simply take a fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Hans understandibly a very frustrated rider because every time he gets near another rider of lesser ability they expect the worse and are almost waiting for that chance, its almost as bad as diving in football, soon riders will be too afraid to try and pass for fear the other will simply take a fall. Ha ............ what comes around goes around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer123 Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Ha ............ what comes around goes around! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ha , well for Denmark the World Cup came around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTP Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Andersen is a undoubted talent,even though he may have been incorrectly excluded, his behaviour on the t.v was out of order. Thers no wonder youngsters of today react the way they do when you get someone acting in this way. What an example to set any youngster watching on sky tv last night. Nicki Pedersen is not a good example either. The Danes deservedly won,but wether the decisions were right or wrong there behaviour was like spoilt kids. Denmark,good riders but such pratts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Ha , well for Denmark the World Cup came around Am I bovvered ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) The bloke is so biased its beyond belief!! How sweet it was in the end hearing him having to accept the Danes had won.It made up for all the biased cr@p he's spouted whilst commentating on this WC. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Completely agree. I thought commentators were meant to be neutral, no matter what country they are in. Edited July 23, 2006 by Ali C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Completely agree. I thought commentators were meant to be neutral, no matter what country they are in. NAH, if you're british you support the brits don't ya!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris H Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 And when Bomber was interviewed and he said that Hans took his leg away!! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Personally YES! I agree with the person who said Pearson is so full of his own importance - who CARES whether HE thought it was all 4 back or whatever - he's there to commentate on what's happening not treat us to the Gospel According to Pearson! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You could quite easily turn the sound down? Just a thought.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 And of course golden boy Hans would never take a dive. Cardiff 2005 anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbin' Along Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 NAH, if you're british you support the brits don't ya!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not necessarily, Trees. I have been, and always will be, a Denmark fan. Nope, I wasn't born there and I don't have Danish parents, but when I first started going to Speedway (1983), the best riders in the world were Danish. So I started supporting them. A bit like all those F1 fans who think Schumaker's the dog's wotsits - does it matter to them that he's German and racing against Jenson Button? Anyhow, it brings up a problem when we're in a situation like last night, and Lupus and I famously used to get threatened in the old days of Denmark -v- England tests matches for the same thing, who to shout for. I solve the problem by not being very vocal (which is more difficult fo rme than you'll ever know!). Last night, I reserved judgement on the Andersen/Harris incident until I'd seen the replays. I agreed (as did Mr Bobbin', who's a Team GB fan) that Andersen was hard done by. This was made worse by Harris claiming that Andersen took his leg away, when the replay clearly shows his back wheel touching the last 2 fingers on his left hand. Unless Harris has some extra limbs we're not aware off, this was not a leg. Mind you, they can be a bit funny down in Cornwall... I agree with many of the previous contributors to this thread - we all love to hate a bad guy. To many England fans in the past, the bad guy has been Penhall (think of THAT incident), Carter (how many of usshouted abuse at him for his outspoken ways?), Pedersen and now Andersen. Characters is what makes our sport - if they were all as softly spoken and uncontroversial as Todd WIltshire (one of the sport's nice guys IMO), it wouldn't be half as exciting. How many of us looked at Heat 25 and thought "Fantastic - let's see how hard Scotty can ride against Andersen in this heat"? Maybe not those exact words, but we sure looked forward to it. How many of us cheered when Jonsson appeared to stuff Pedersen in the fence, and looked forward to the fight at the end of the race? And were maybe disappointed when they made it up before getting back to the pits? Me - I'm happy that Denmark Won, but would have been equally happy had GB won - so long as they deserved it. Denmark were the best on the night and Scott and the boys in no way disgraced themselves. Everyone had a little bit of luck go their way (what if Crumpy had won heat 25?) and a bit of bad luck as well (who'd have thought the inside gate was so crappy? and that we'd get so many inside gates?). And we all enjoyed watching Nicky P spit his dummy out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer123 Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Am I bovvered ............... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You sound bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Ha ............ what comes around goes around! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes that's a good example that is, "What goes around comes around" said after heat 13 in the race off well who won heat 25 in the final?? Who came second after Crump fell?? What goes around comes around means he got me this time, maybe I'll beat him next time. I rode hard he rode hard. What happend next, could be a good question for Question of Sport dyou not think? never gloat til it's over, less risk of looking stupid> However in praise of SN he took his defeat like a man last night, and was dignity itself when interviewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Andersen is a undoubted talent,even though he may have been incorrectly excluded, his behaviour on the t.v was out of order. Thers no wonder youngsters of today react the way they do when you get someone acting in this way. What an example to set any youngster watching on sky tv last night. Nicki Pedersen is not a good example either. The Danes deservedly won,but wether the decisions were right or wrong there behaviour was like spoilt kids. Denmark,good riders but such pratts. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe we should remember that the Brits haven't always shown themselves in the best light on Sky either.......there is a phrase about glasshouses and stones I believe....? It's unrealistic to expect professional sportsman with National Pride on their heads NOT to react strongly when a decision has just been incorrectly made against them that, in their view, COULD cost them the meeting. NAH, if you're british you support the brits don't ya!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not blindly, without question, and "because everyone else is", no! You support the Brits if you want to, and not because bombastic tunnel-visioned folk say you should, IMO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Pretty much the same thing happend at Arena at start of season when Hans passed Leigh Lanham on the inside and Leigh dropped it, there was possibly a little minor contact as per last night but some riders find it all to easy to just take a dive than stay on knowing they will lose a race position. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So, just like Andersen in the GP at Cardiff last year then. What goes around comes around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansfan Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Am I bovvered ............... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> obviously you are!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 You support the Brits if you want to, and not because bombastic tunnel-visioned folk say you should, IMO! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Errr What? Big Long Words...............! Actually I didn't have a clue who I was supporting last night! Brits, Aussies, think I shouted for a Dane at one point to stay in front of a Swede! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Errr What? Big Long Words...............! Actually I didn't have a clue who I was supporting last night! Brits, Aussies, think I shouted for a Dane at one point to stay in front of a Swede! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL - good for you Tabs!!! I know I was shouting my head off for Hans in heat 15 to stay in front of Crump, and then Crump went and fell off.....Doh!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Like him or not there is no question at this moment in time hans is the best rider in the world after crump and if he keeps up his progress will be no 1 or 2 next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTP Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Maybe we should remember that the Brits haven't always shown themselves in the best light on Sky either.......there is a phrase about glasshouses and stones I believe....? It's unrealistic to expect professional sportsman with National Pride on their heads NOT to react strongly when a decision has just been incorrectly made against them that, in their view, COULD cost them the meeting.Not blindly, without question, and "because everyone else is", no! You support the Brits if you want to, and not because bombastic tunnel-visioned folk say you should, IMO! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Still no reason to go f****ng and blinding though is it,pride or no pride. So your saying if you have kids and a decision goes against them they should go of kicking walls and F****ng and blinding. Thats the point I'm making irrespective of what nation you are representing. Don't forget Speedway is a family sport and a lot of kids look up to there favourite riders,who should set a good example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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