Vincent Vega Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Who do you lot think will win the final then? Let me make one thing clear from the start I would love Team GB or England as we should be known win it I have nothing against Middlo at all. I just cant see us winning it though Denmark and Australia are better sides. The whole point of my argument is in any other sport if you have a manager who has had 6 chances of winning a trophy and the team doesnt succeed then surely you have to look elsewhere? The boys show plenty of fight and team spirit seems good but we never seem to go that extra yard to win why is that? Surely the buck stops with the manager? Come on Middlo as team manager you must give us the best chance of winning the cup on saturday Stead cant ride Smallmead Louis can bring in Loobie for Gods sake!!!!! Oh yeah Denmark or Australia will win it we will finish 3rd. People please afterwards dont come on here and say what a great effort we put up heard it all for the last 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Australia Denmark GB Sweden if the track is like it was tonight. If we have a track thats not a dustbowl then I think we may beat the Danes, however I can't see anyone but the Aussies winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisB Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Track was awful tonight, spoiled the meeting.. Also there's no point criticising Middlo - the riders have to deliver and they all had some dodgy moments - things they can only put rigt individually. Also agree Chris Louis ought to be given a chance as Stead was poor tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 (edited) Steady got 4 from 3. Loram only got 7 from 5...! And Lee got 10 from 6, if he didn't gate he pretty much came last, simple as...! Smallmead is certainly not one of Steady's favourite tracks, agreed, but taking him out of 2 rides tonight was pretty pathetic on Middlo's part. Talk about undermining confidence of one of GB's most promising young riders...! And just to add, Steady hasn't come last in a race in the SWC yet! Edited July 20, 2006 by Ace no.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartfordHammer Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Yeah think Steady should have at least been left in for his final heat, didn't see that as a good move personally. Can see Australia winning, their team is just so strong this year. The Danes might push them, but I doubt either GB or Sweden will be in the top 2. If they are, it'll be very close indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Australia ..... [1st] Denmark......[2nd] Sweden........[3rd] Gt. Britain.....[4th] I won't be able to watch the final - unless someone can come up with a pub in the Exeter area that will be showing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartfordHammer Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Australia ..... [1st]Denmark......[2nd] Sweden........[3rd] Gt. Britain.....[4th] I won't be able to watch the final - unless someone can come up with a pub in the Exeter area that will be showing it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Drop in on Nevs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Denmark Australia Sweden Team GB Denmark for me ....... Lets be honest the track is not likely to change on Sat so would seem OO has got his way and provids another dogsh++e track. Hans is in superb form and after Crump is probably the form rider at the moment. Nikki P will be more dialled in than tonight. Crump should guarantee a double point return and if Wiltshire is fully recovered from his spill in Poland his gating ability on a sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick track will be worth a good sum of points. Travis on home track should aid their cause .... however it will be interesting to see how Travis deals with the added pressure. Sweden I think have greater strength than Team GB throughout the side on a slick track. Loram, Nicholls, Bomber, Stead are racers who would prefer a track with grip and passing opportunities. Nicholls has struggled getting out the gate all season, Loram has never been the best of trappers and Stead and Harris are not consistently bang into first corner. Richardson is perhaps the only gater in the Team GB ??? so why let OO have a slick track. On a dustbowl gating will be the precedent and the Aussies ,Swedes and Danes have the edge in that department. Although I will hope the crowd helps the Team GB guys ..... but cant see the atmosphere being like Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirelnutkins Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Who do you lot think will win the final then? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Denmark Australia Sweden GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Australia Denmark or Sweden - does it matter Team GB (Gating Badly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer X Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I just cannot understand Middlo sometimes - aparently choosing Stead because he was showing faith with his Event 1 sides and then taking the rider out of his last two rides. Either Steady is good enough or not. Middlo's actions tend to suggest he didn't in fact have the belief in Stead that he said he did. There is every chance that GB will improve with Chris Louis in the side. But at least we didn't drop as big a cog as the Poles - Holta (or another in the squad) clearly should have been in for KK... The poor Reading track copped 37 degree heat on Wednesday, nearly as bad yesterday, plus it had same day practise - an ultra slick track was inevitable. Hopefully with practise today and rather kinder weather conditions there will be a bit less slickness about. Hopefully team GB will rise to the challenge - especially with Louis - but I can't see beyond either the Aussies or Danes. Possibly Travis will be the key to which side takes the Cup.....(no pressure Trav!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Sub Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Hope I'm wrong but it would seem like the Aussies, if their big four go well and Travis supports, or the Danes who revel in the slick. Can only see GB challenging Sweden but will be there regardless to support. Think we should get off Middlo's back too - at least for the moment. He's produced a team to lose by one point against the Aussies, beat the Poles twice and comfortably get through to the final finishing a handful of points behind the pre-tournament favourites on a track which suited them. Fair enough if we get embarrassed on Saturday have a go but remember we are ranked 4 in the world and will finish at least 4th come what may. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I'd really like to see Chris Louis given the chance in the final, he's on great form, can gate, can ride the slick ......... what more do we want?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb the Snail Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I think that the final is a match between Australia and Denmark. The "Big 4" of Jason, Leigh, Nicki and Hans should all score heavily, so the title will be decided by the level of support that they receive lower down. ie Ryan, Todd and Travis / Rory against Bjarne, Charlie and Niels. For me the Danes just shade it, although it has all the makings of a classic if the meeting gets the racing surface that it deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverstam Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Apparently nobody fancies Sweden even though the Danes had almost nothing on us on tuesday. Well, suits us just fine to be the underdogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonsai Diamond Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Time to drop stead and bring in Louis steads time will come in the next 5 years when he can race in meetings like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I have nothing against Middlo at all. Surely the buck stops with the manager? Come on Middlo as team manager you must give us the best chance of winning the cup on saturday Stead cant ride Smallmead Louis can bring in Loobie for Gods sake!!!!! People please afterwards dont come on here and say what a great effort we put up heard it all for the last 5 years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You got a funny way of showing it then VV every opportunity you get you are slating him Think we should get off Middlo's back too - at least for the moment. He's produced a team to lose by one point against the Aussies, beat the Poles twice and comfortably get through to the final finishing a handful of points behind the pre-tournament favourites on a track which suited them. Fair enough if we get embarrassed on Saturday have a go but remember we are ranked 4 in the world and will finish at least 4th come what may. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like you say we are ranked 4th in the world not forgetting Poland won last year so we have beaten the returning champs jeeeeeeeez how on earth can we be embarrased Saturday we are in the bloody final for christ sake, there are some that had us written off before the event inc. the race off. Apparently nobody fancies Sweden even though the Danes had almost nothing on us on tuesday. Well, suits us just fine to be the underdogs! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Could be worse your manager could be getting the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I'll bet my house that Mr Louis is in Saturdays squad Can't blame Sir Middlo for this one if we lose, you all whinged enough to get him there if the jobs not done it's all down to popular demand of the fans not the manager, so Vega your neck on the block this time!!!!! None of this bull it's all down to the team all you've been saying is it's down to the manager, well now the manager has done what you wanted (although I think it was probably already decided) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Shazzy If you and the other Team GB fans are happy with us reaching the final putting up a good effort but never winning then fine good luck to you all. I aint that is why I have been questioning Middlo as team manager of Team GB cos we never win anything simple as that. As I said if you lot are happy with us showing plenty of spirit like Jonathan Green keeps saying and finishing second like we have done this week to Australia and last night Denmark then fair play to you all I really hope you enjoy it. I am different I see it as winner takes all and no one remembering who finished 2nd or 3rd. We are all different so if you are going Saturday and Team GB dont win but you have a good day out then good luck to you all. VV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caristom Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Shazzy If you and the other Team GB fans are happy with us reaching the final putting up a good effort but never winning then fine good luck to you all. I aint that is why I have been questioning Middlo as team manager of Team GB cos we never win anything simple as that. As I said if you lot are happy with us showing plenty of spirit like Jonathan Green keeps saying and finishing second like we have done this week to Australia and last night Denmark then fair play to you all I really hope you enjoy it. I am different I see it as winner takes all and no one remembering who finished 2nd or 3rd. We are all different so if you are going Saturday and Team GB dont win but you have a good day out then good luck to you all. VV <{POST_SNAPBACK}> gb have absolutely no chance,but how can you blame middlo,we are just not good enough. either australia or denmark will win,and it will be a lot closer that the bookmakers odds suggest,crump and adams will score heavily,but sullivan didnt go to well at smallmead this year,mcgowan will be a bit out of his depth,and wiltshire will be up against a lot of other quick gaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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