Hans Andersen

[GeneralMelchett]

hard riding from both Nicholls and Andersen , but a great race which Nicholls deservable won.

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Another excellent post on the subject, SN did pull out a top draw ride.

[Rigsby]

For me Andersen's move on the third bend was not fair, but there you go, its all about opinion isn't it! Its a pity he has to do that now and again because he is a damn good rider and I would have him in my team every time. I think people are being a bit unfair on Scott, he was quite obviously riled (as I would have been) and it was all a bit of a storm in a tea cup to be honest 

 

Choosing their line is the right of a rider in front I agree, but there has to be a limit and for me that is reached when that rider chops straight across an opponent to stop them in their tracks. If Nicholls had not shut off so promptly a nasty accident could have ensued 

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Spot on again - apologies Bloomy for being unconstuctive

[FlyinRyan]

Andersen demonstrated tonight why Nicholls will never win a GP as long as he has a hole up his rear. It was hard riding and sometimes you have to be hard to be a winner. Maybe if Nicholls experienced this in a GP he might, just might, get enough fire in his belly to actually achieve something, though I doubt it. The incident was blown out of proportion on Sky to deflect the fact that it was actually a crap meeting, which it was always destined to be with Reading as the chosen venue. A lot of the posters on here haven't failed to deliver in jumping on the bashing of Andersen yet again. I wouldn't pay money to watch Nicholls, but I definitely would Andersen. The moaners need to ask themselves if they really want wing mirrors and indicators on Speedway bikes - I don't.

[Aries]

Thanks, I thought so too - apparently some speedway fans don't get the irony, this isn't a football forum y'know

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There was irony in your post? sorry must have missed it

[Addy]

Pearson summed it up perfectly at the end, "Andersen was magnificent tonight and credit to him, he's one of those characters" Whether you like him or not Hans is box office and in my opinion speedway needs riders like him. Louis and Ermolenko were laughing at the Nicholls/andersen race and not once did i hear the word "dangerous" mentioned

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I have to say,

And state with approval …

That Hans enunciates his words beautifully and his command of the English language is remarkable

 

In fact I would go as far to say that his enunciation and communication abilities exceed the majority of the Sky presenters.

 

He speaks with an almost neutral accent … without unnecessary inferred reference to his place of birth …

Unlike the Sky Boys, who accentuate every dropped consonant with undue fervour … for example …

 

Kelvin failed an attempt at enunciating “Vital” and came out (or should I say kame owt) with something like … “vi-ol” .. and he does this all the time.

Yet

You may ask how did he affect this? … was it at school … doubt it … and bro hasn’t the same failings … so why?

 

This is just an example …

 

And

Of course there has been the professional Mancunian – from time to time – but such millionaires sometimes embarrass us too … so I concede this is not just a south eastern problem.

[Badge]

hard riding from both Nicholls and Andersen , but a great race which Nicholls deservable won. Its just a pity that Nicholls cant control his childish behaviour. If he was so able Im sure hed be winning GPs and much more than he has so far.

 

As captain of England I thought it was disgraceful when he was offered the hand from Hans and he just pushed it away.

 

Alot of it goes back to the fact that Nicholls was unable to deal with the fact that Hans was more popular at Ipswich than Nicholls ever was.

 

Hans behaved impecably as always. Dropped just the one point in that race and has a great chance of leading Denmark to glory in the final on Saturday.

 

 

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Well said Boxer, once again Nicholls showed his true colours. For goodness sake he won the damn race, just a little hand shake but oh no.

[SCB]

Andersen demonstrated tonight why Nicholls will never win a GP as long as he has a hole up his rear. It was hard riding and sometimes you have to be hard to be a winner.

But Hans lost

 

It was hard, very hard and very close to being dirty but Nicholls got his own back, gave Hans a shove and it was a great bit of tele. Superb ride by Scott!

[boxer123]

Thanx General , as you might guess my puter is misbehaving , so having difficulty follow this thread.

 

The thing that made me smile the most tonight was when Chris was asked could England (for some obscure reason now called something else) go on to win the world cup. You could tell what he really thought!!! Him appart the commentry team was so biased I cringed

[boxer123]

Well said Boxer, once again Nicholls showed his true colours. For goodness sake he won the damn race, just a little hand shake but oh no.

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Right on Badge , I think the vast majority of poster on this and our forum know the real score

[FlyinRyan]

But Hans lost 

 

It was hard, very hard and very close to being dirty but Nicholls got his own back, gave Hans a shove and it was a great bit of tele.  Superb ride by Scott!

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I agree it was a superb ride by Nicholls, but is that what it takes to make Nicholls a winner???

[tricky dicky]

Andersen demonstrated tonight why Nicholls will never win a GP as long as he has a hole up his rear. It was hard riding and sometimes you have to be hard to be a winner. Maybe if Nicholls experienced this in a GP he might, just might, get enough fire in his belly to actually achieve something, though I doubt it. The incident was blown out of proportion on Sky to deflect the fact that it was actually a crap meeting, which it was always destined to be with Reading as the chosen venue. A lot of the posters on here haven't failed to deliver in jumping on the bashing of Andersen yet again. I wouldn't pay money to watch Nicholls, but I definitely would Andersen. The moaners need to ask themselves if they really want wing mirrors and indicators on Speedway bikes - I don't.

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Why wouldnt you want to pay money to watch Nicholls ?? After all he does most of his scoring from the back unlike Andersen who excells from his gating !!

[Sloop]

OK, for what it's worth, I thought both riders crossed the line between what is acceptable and what is not. Andersen rode Nicholls too hard towards the fence but Nicholls did likewise.

 

Kelvin Tatum biased ? He accuses Hans Andersen of refusing to shake Nicholls' hand but does not apologise when replays clearly show that it was Nicholls who refused to shake. In fact, Nicholls then admitted in an interview that he "did not want to shake hands with him" !

 

Later, Tatum is heard shouting "YES" when Team GB benefit from a rider falling and lying (possibly injured) on the track. Inexcusable.

 

Finally, for the moment, you really all need to decide whether it is Team GB or England. I don't give a stuff but at least wave the appropriate flags and refer to the team by the correct name

Edited July 20, 2006 by Sloop

[JT]

Why wouldnt you want to pay money to watch Nicholls ?? After all he does most of his scoring from the back unlike Andersen who excells from his gating !!

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Peter Karlsson at Wolves on Sky a few weeks back? I would have paid to watch that meeting for Andersen alone, I like Nicholls but he does like Simon Stead seemed too bothered about what his style looks like in front of the cameras than simply getting on with the job.

 

Back to the main issue here, the track was so appallingly slick that Andersen in the heat of the moment knew that to give himself a chance of winning he'd have to move out and block his line (I'd assume that was the move in question here after all the back straight incident wasn't far removed from Richardson’s move on Iversen earlier), bear in mind travelling at those speeds decisions are made in a split second, admittedly it did look very deliberate but dangerous?

 

Nicholls stayed on and very shortly afterwards overtook him and won the race and in all honesty in the post race interview didn't seem that bothered.

 

Focus on the standard of riders here, if Andersen had done that to a Conference League rider OK it would be seen as dangerous as they would perhaps lack the experience and quality to cut back like Nicholls did, but Nicholls is a World Class rider as confirmed by his brilliant overtake, he stayed on and in the adrenaline rush with the crowd behind him pushed Andersen’s handshake away (playing to the crowd!).

 

Anyway I don’t think that was the main issue here, my mum caught a few races on the way through the house and commented on the meagre crowd and ‘scruffy' stadium the World Cup Semi Final was being staged in, from an outsider looking in, if the first thing they noticed was the environment aspect, it does highlight how poor speedway facilities are and the poor value for money aspect if this is where one of the sports premier competitions is being staged.

 

Personally with enough advertising I think the World Cup could be staged in a large stadium, perhaps not the Millennium but maybe even a Premier League football stadium as I find the competition perhaps more entertaining than the GP, priced right I see no reason why the final couldn’t attract at least 20,000 people.

Edited July 20, 2006 by JT

[Rigsby]

There was irony in your post?  sorry must have missed it 

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Never mind eh!

[Pollyanna]

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    Loads of red, white and blue tinted specs on here tonight. A big fuss about nowt just because it involved Hans Andersen. The only thing wrong as far as I could see was Scott refusing to shake Hans hand afterwards, now that was pathetic!   

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Agreed. Very bad sportsmanship shown by Nicholls.

[DartfordHammer]

 

And

 

I have to say,

And state with approval … 

That Hans enunciates his words beautifully and his command of the English language is remarkable   

 

In fact I would go as far to say that his enunciation and communication abilities exceed the majority of the Sky presenters.

 

He speaks with an almost neutral accent … without unnecessary inferred reference to his place of birth …

Unlike the Sky Boys, who accentuate every dropped consonant with undue fervour … for example …

 

Kelvin failed an attempt at enunciating “Vital”  and came out (or should I say kame owt) with something like …  “vi-ol” .. and he does this all the time.

Yet

You may ask how did he affect this? … was it at school … doubt it … and bro hasn’t the same failings … so why?

 

This is just an example …

 

And

Of course there has been the professional Mancunian – from time to time – but such millionaires sometimes embarrass us too … so I concede this is not just a south eastern problem.

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Personally I don't see a problem with regional dialects. I can understand what they're saying, so I don't see the problem. I quite like to hear different pronounciations of words rather than how it used to be on telly with everyone being well spoken and sounding the same.

[JT]

I'm with the band of Pearson/Tatum supporters, in my opinion they are brilliant, both very informative yet witty at times too, after all it's only sport and it's nice to have a laugh now and again and for commentators not to take themselves too seriously!

[Addy]

Personally I don't see a problem with regional dialects. I can understand what they're saying, so I don't see the problem. I quite like to hear different pronounciations of words rather than how it used to be on telly with everyone being well spoken and sounding the same. 

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Yes

dialects are good

 

You have missed the point , haven't you

 

I am referring to affected / unnaturally assumed dialelects

 

and the point that some of the presenters have them ...

 

As a contrast to Hans - who can speak clearly and naturally without affectation.

 

please e-mail me if you still fail to understand, bw.

[DartfordHammer]

Yes

dialects are good

 

You have missed the point , haven't you 

 

I am referring to affected / unnaturally assumed dialelects

 

and the point that some of the presenters have them ...

 

As a contrast to Hans  - who can speak clearly and naturally without affectation.

 

please e-mail me if you still fail to understand, bw.

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Oops, yes I did miss the point.

Understand now, can see your point even more.

[Liverstam]

Hans might be something of a language genius. He speaks very good swedish aswell, unlike the other danes who usually resort to some kind of "scandinavian" when intervued by swedish media.