Swc Event 1 - Rybnik

[Silver Bee]

With regards to the joker, 6 points is not enough points to be behind. Needs to be at least 8 IMO. Also, I don't think it should be allowed to be played in the final 5 races.

[norwichdarter]

one of the best meetings on tv for a while i think ,,tomasz gollob ,his overtaking ,wow ,he is a genius on a speedway bike ,us gb boys did well ,lets hope for the race off

[shazzybird]

He's come a long way since that night at Hackney, pure class a pleasure to watch Gollob race.

[philfromcov]

the joker doesnt bother me

 

we all no the score

 

good result nice to see the brits really mising it!

 

old loram cleary enjoyed it all, could be a trump card!

 

i think putting mcgowan in for schlien will be a big mistake for the aussies.

 

i know rory didnt score that many, but in a fina i suspect travis will be way out of his depth, no ammount of home track advantage will change that!

[Silver Bee]

In the same way that Schlein was out of his depth ?

 

I'd rather they used Schlein than McGowan.

[Trees]

Yes give Trav a chance!!

 

Must say I totally enjoyed the coverage from Rybnik this morning, what a flipping shame that the track wasn't prepared as well as it could have been, would have been a GREAT meeting!! Some fantastic moves made by certain riders throughout the match, a mate said to me Gollob must race with a cork up his behind ..... hehehehe

 

Look forward to tomorrow's meeting and CAN'T WAIT for the RACE OFF and final .............. speedway supporter's heaven this week!

[DavyH]

can someone tell me why Poland were given second place and not England

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Probably because England are not competing in the World Cup, just Team GB?

 

But what was the reason? most heat wins?

[stevehone]

I think you're mistaken. The event is run by the BSI.

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so is the SGP ... and Olsen sets the track up exactly as he wants i.e slick

[spook]

On the telly I watched it on Crump was definatly in front of Reima, who tan in to the back of him. no bodys fault , just everyone wanting to be on the same bit of track.

 

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Crump got moved over by yhe rider on his outside and he accidently crowded Reima. Nobody's fault. Should have been all 4 again but as it was entering the straight it wasn't considered to be first bend bunching. Unfortunate but an accident.

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The way I saw it was that Reima was in front of Crump going into bend 2 but Crump had all the momentum..........Reima had the white line, Crump had the rest of the track.............Crump decided to cut in when he knew his bike wouldn't clear Reima and that Reima wouldn't have anywhere to go

 

It was a harsh move that almost ended in injury and one that should have been penalised in my opinion ...............

[tomcat]

What a fantastic speedway meeting that was. I don't know where people get the idea that it was boring or devoid of any real passing....WoW..what a way to spend a Sunday evening. It was adrenaline pumping stuff, just sat at home seeing it on TV, God knows what it was like actually being in the Stadium.

Just to try and clear up the final positions, re the Team GB & Poland positions... I heard them say on Sky, that in the event of Team GB & Poland being tied on points, Team GB would get the decision as they had more race wins... I haven't checked the race card, getting lazy in my old age, so haven't verified the state of play. It doesn't matter anyway, as the Aussies won and both Team GB & Poland are in the Race Off Thursday.

 

Have to say, I fancy Chris Louis in for the Race Off at Reading instead of Simon Stead.

Also totally agree with the poster re reserves, why not?? as was said, if you lose a rider early on to injury, God forbid it does happen, then a team is well and truly stuffed. Come on BSI/FIM, sort it out. I am sure that teams used to have a reserve that could be used to replace injured/out of form riders during a WTC meeting. Thats going back to the 70's when they held the Uk qualifying round at Ipswich between England, Australia, New Zealand and Scotland... Oh they were the days.. packed stadium, loads of great racing...now where was I..Oh yeah back to 2006, shame as I enjoyed those days.

 

C'Mon Team GB... BELIEVE!!

Edited July 17, 2006 by tomcat

[Private Dancer]

I agree it was a fantastic meeting. Though i had a feeling GB would lose. It is their attitude it is always defeatism. There is never we are going to win this or that. We might, but we`ll be there in the play offs, er come again. I am tired of being second or third best. But that is the British for you. Whatever sport we are in. None of them ( English sportsmen) believe in themselfs, and almost all of them settle for second best. Time for change i say! Start in believing in your ability and focus on winning and nothing else.

 

Yes the lads did well, but we have got to be first over the winning line at some point. And it is better to be first at the end of the meeting instead of in the middle.

 

I am not having a go, but they have to change their mind set.

 

Take Care

[willp]

Yes agree, it was a great meeting, lots of passing and incidents.

 

Really good to watch on the tv.

 

The brits did us proud, great team effort.

 

If only bomber could make a start, he would be a great rider.

 

Lets hope the meeting on tuesday is of the same quality.

 

Lets all get behind the brits, get those flags and air horns out at reading!, i know i will!

[f-s-p]

Just saw the Crump - Reima incident... Think it would have been all4back if only happened 10-20 meters earlier, but since Reima was lying halway through the backstraight someone had to go. And boy it must have hurt, he had his bike sideways for a second, and alltouhg tried to let go there was too much speed. ouch.

 

Crump must have thought that since he'd never heard of the guy (probably) he'd be further back by then...

 

Wonder what Laukkanen was thinking in heat 4 after making the start and then going wide and giving everybody a clear run on the inside.

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[spook]

Though i had a feeling GB would lose. It is their attitude it is always defeatism.

 

I don't think the attitude was wrong although it would be nice to see Scott be victorius against one of the big boys in a pressure situation...............if there could be any criticism it would be that on a few occasions some of the team members were going wide on bend 2 for no apparent reason when it was obvious the way the track was riding and that previous attempts to go wide on that bend had resulted in being passed or a loss of ground

 

Crump must have thought that since he'd never heard of the guy (probably) he'd be further back by then...

 

Wonder what Laukkanen was thinking in heat 4 after making the start and then going wide and giving everybody a clear run on the inside.

 

It must have been painful viewing for yourself Mr P ...........I did have plenty of sympathy for you while watching...............although in saying that I didn't think any of the guys disgraced themselves and Kauko in particular rode very well........In a parrallel universe somewhere Mr Kylmakorpi made a big difference to the end result

[Eastie]

On the telly I watched it on Crump was definatly in front of Reima, who tan in to the back of him. no bodys fault , just everyone wanting to be on the same bit of track.

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Thought Crump was lucky he moved across to the inside and shut off leaving the Finnish rider Reima nowhere to go.

If it was Crump at the back I wonder who would have been excluded

Reima was also taken out near the end by Schlein on bend 2 but to his credit stayed on the bike. If he had gone down the Aussie would have been excluded

Edited July 17, 2006 by Eastie

[stevehone]

It is their attitude it is always defeatism. There is never we are going to win this or that. We might, but we`ll be there in the play offs, er come again. I am tired of being second or third best. But that is the British for you. Whatever sport we are in. None of them ( English sportsmen) believe in themselfs, and almost all of them settle for second best. Time for change i say! Start in believing in your ability and focus on winning and nothing else.

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start on Scott Nicholls constantly talking about making a semi in the GP's ... why's that, you need to talk about WINNING.

[barrow boy]

Thought Crump was lucky he moved across to the inside and shut off leaving the Finnish rider Reima nowhere to go.

If it was Crump at the back I wonder who would have been excluded

Reima was also taken out near the end by Schlein on bend 2 but to his credit stayed on the bike. If he had gone down the Aussie would have been excluded

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But Crump was himself crowded out from his outside. He could either shut off or move over. Just one of those things.

[spook]

But Crump was himself crowded out from his outside. He could either shut off or move over. Just one of those things.

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I don't see that when the other two riders were already away and in front .....Jason had the choice to take any line down the backstraight but decided to cut hard left across Tomi Reima on the white line

 

I agree with Eastie... if a rider is given nowhere to go unecessarily then the verdict should be an easy one to make .......and of course it would have been if it had been Jason who had been on the receiving end

[f-s-p]

Just had a chat with a mutual friend, Reima wrecked the biked used in that incident (total write-off including the engine), then tried with another and the engine went from that one.

 

Not a day to remember, but made good tv...

Edited July 17, 2006 by f-s-p

[Subedei]

I don't see that when the other two riders were already away and in front .....Jason had the choice to take any line down the backstraight but decided to cut hard left across Tomi Reima on the white line

 

I agree with Eastie... if a rider is given nowhere to go unecessarily then the verdict should be an easy one to make .......and of course it would have been if it had been Jason who had been on the receiving end

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I thought Crump was slightly fortunate to get away with that one, but it was a tough call for the referee - all four restart would've been the best option.