bosnian Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I do believe the bookies have gifted us on this one. Event one in Poland. Only 3 firms offering odds at mo, sky, lads, hills, Lads are offering 8/5 on Poland winning event 1, with Australia favs at 8/15 Hills are going 1/2 Poland 6/4 Australia. With both firms GB are 6/1 and Finland are 50/1 Skybet are going evens the pair I really can't see GB challenging in Poland, so you can afford to back both Poland and Australia and still be in profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I do believe the bookies have gifted us on this one. Event one in Poland. Only 3 firms offering odds at mo, sky, lads, hills, Lads are offering 8/5 on Poland winning event 1, with Australia favs at 8/15 Hills are going 1/2 Poland 6/4 Australia. With both firms GB are 6/1 and Finland are 50/1 Skybet are going evens the pair I really can't see GB challenging in Poland, so you can afford to back both Poland and Australia and still be in profit <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Apparenently ladbrokes were 3-1 poland,god knows how they came to that price in a 2 horse race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 The title of this thread is a non-sequiteur - under no circumstances do bookies EVER give money away! Better ask yourself a different question - what do they know that you don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggle Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 thanks for the heads up. Agreed can't see GB winning in Poland. Got shorter odds for poland than you stated as I guess people are backing it down... will pocket net £200 for a Poland win and a net £50 is Aus win If GB look like doing anything i will place a saving bet during the meeting !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 The title of this thread is a non-sequiteur - under no circumstances do bookies EVER give money away! Better ask yourself a different question - what do they know that you don't? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But as long as Australia or Poland win, you're guarenteed to win. As the Brits have no chance of winning, it looks good. TBH, I can't see the Poles lossing, so no need to waste any money on the Aussies. I bet the professional gamblers are playing this game, betting on the Poles at 8/5 and the Aussies at 6/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonsai Diamond Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 odds have changed already willhill.com still giving 1.66 on the poles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggle Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 can only find Poland at Evens now, with Aus still 6/4 at Will Hill Still a no lose bet though still may throw a few more pennies on later, although I guess Poland will be odds on everywhere before too long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I do believe the bookies have gifted us on this one. Event one in Poland. Only 3 firms offering odds at mo, sky, lads, hills, Lads are offering 8/5 on Poland winning event 1, with Australia favs at 8/15 Hills are going 1/2 Poland 6/4 Australia. With both firms GB are 6/1 and Finland are 50/1 Skybet are going evens the pair I really can't see GB challenging in Poland, so you can afford to back both Poland and Australia and still be in profit <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very rare to see bookies making that sort of error. Quite surprised to see Ladbrokes playing in such a market, didn't think they were that big on Speedway. Judging by their prices they don't really have a great handle on the sport either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 There's also a lot of money to made on the spread market. If you dont think the yanks will finish 3rd <or better> in the final you can sell at 2.5, now that is easy money! You can also buy the danes and aussies, and providing one of them win you cant lose, and the profit comes on the other finishing 2nd or 3rd. You can even make money on the czechs finishing last in sweden, surely a cert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 (edited) The title of this thread is a non-sequiteur - under no circumstances do bookies EVER give money away! Better ask yourself a different question - what do they know that you don't? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In most sports you would be correct, however, the bookies are not masters of speedway and they make several mistakes. It's just a question of waiting for them--and pouncing. A few years ago at Eastbourne in a SWC qualifier, the line up was Poland v GB V Sweden v Hungary (or someone similar) Straight away Hungary could be ruled out, and indeed Poland as well. Poland because although that had a decent team, they were never going to beat Sweden or GB at this tricky little track. But the bookies were unaware of this. So, it was a two horse race, and 6/4 was available on each team, an offer I took up without hesitation. As recently as last night the bookies once again got it wrong in the Coventry V Arena match, one bookie made it Coventry - 14, this was an absurd handicap, did they not know how weakened Arena were? furthermore, were they not aware of what happened at Arena recently against Coventry? and because of that Coventry were always going to be to out for revenge! And they got it! Edited July 15, 2006 by BritPete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 In most sports you would be correct, however, the bookies are not masters of speedway and they make several mistakes. It's just a question of waiting for them--and pouncing. Another was during play of the Oxford Wolves meeting they had Wolves -2 when Ales crashed. Ok Wolves were at that point 4 down but with only Todd to win heats that -2 look like a bargin and so it proved!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosnian Posted July 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 lads have now slashed the poles and oz's to 5/6 the pair. See little point on touching the outright at the moment, because you will prob get similar price on Denmark come the final anyway, and with Australia likley to be in the race off, there price should drift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 In most sports you would be correct, however, the bookies are not masters of speedway and they make several mistakes. It's just a question of waiting for them--and pouncing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have to echo Brit Pete on this. I worked for the magic sign for 14 years and I would be very surprised if the person who prices up their Speedway odds is very knowledgeable. The guys who price up their books in major sports are very shrewd and have an encyclopaedic knowledge of their speciality, but I would be surprised if they even have a Speedway specialist. The key for us punters is to be patient and wait and wait for that value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 After going through all the heats I have come to the conclusion that Poland are far to short a price. I am certainly not saying thay won't win, but I make it very close between them and Austalia. Expekt, unibet, nordicbet and a few others have yet to put their prices up so maybe there will be something there to look at. Betfair it seems are not bothering with it, not at the moment anyway, and this is a great shame because my ideal bet here would be to lay Poland and keep a close eye on the live market. Any other opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 After going through all the heats I have come to the conclusion that Poland are far to short a price. I am certainly not saying thay won't win, but I make it very close between them and Austalia. Expekt, unibet, nordicbet and a few others have yet to put their prices up so maybe there will be something there to look at. Betfair it seems are not bothering with it, not at the moment anyway, and this is a great shame because my ideal bet here would be to lay Poland and keep a close eye on the live market. Any other opinions? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No britpete,all bases covered,i wouldnt back gb at 100-1,i dont think they have a cat in hells chance to be perfectly honest,how ladbrokes went 3-1 poland for the heat on friday is beyond comprehension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 At last betfair have decided to cover the SWC. With live betting betting as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosnian Posted July 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 could anyone tell me the current prices for today's meeting, ? many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 could anyone tell me the current prices for today's meeting, ? The bookies wesbites? ladbrokes.com willhill.com stanjames.com betfred.com skybet.com Thats just the first few! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 so hands up who still think after ht20 that GB can't win it? hope you didnt put too much money down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 so hands up who still think after ht20 that GB can't win it? Now hows it looking for the Poles?! This is nail biting stuff!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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