Creamer Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 As this is the Middlo thread, i would like to say. He has done a good job for the Brits, but now it's time for new blood. Like most managers job's you can be in it for just a little too long. Thanks for your service but no thanks.... i feel you have taken them as far as you can, not saying someone else would make them better. Now's the time for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Ok, so name the new manager and name the 5 riders who you think would have won the SWC tonight or any other night on any other track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest schumifan Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 name the 5 riders who you think would have won the SWC tonight or any other night on any other track? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Niels Kristian Iversen Nicki Pedersen Bjarne Pedersen Hans Andersen Charlie Gjedde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 (edited) Ok, so name the new manager and name the 5 riders who you think would have won the SWC tonight or any other night on any other track? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To be honest rabbit, I wouldn't blame Middlo if he turned round now and said stuff it. The stick he gets is just silly. There is no manager in this country who would have got more out of the boys than Middlo did. Edited July 22, 2006 by home straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Niels Kristian IversenNicki Pedersen Bjarne Pedersen Hans Andersen Charlie Gjedde <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just think what would they would have done if they could have fielded their best team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 There is no manager in this country who would have got more out of the boys than Middlo did. ARGH!!! Did you miss heat 17? Why was Louis not replaced? Any manager who made a change there might have got a point or 3 more there. Tim Sugar and Eric Boocock should be invited to the BSPA/SCB head quaters this week and given the job, they may actually turn up at the British Final as well, unlike our current National Team Manager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 And exactly who would they have picked for the team then SCB? Do you know what was going on in the pits? Easy to sit and home and play the manager isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 ARGH!!! Did you miss heat 17? Why was Louis not replaced? Any manager who made a change there might have got a point or 3 more there. Tim Sugar and Eric Boocock should be invited to the BSPA/SCB head quaters this week and given the job, they may actually turn up at the British Final as well, unlike our current National Team Manager! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ARGH!!! Who was talking to you? See Wales did well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrwulfAndrew Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 To be honest rabbit, I wouldn't blame Middlo if he turned round now and said stuff it. The stick he gets is just silly. There is no manager in this country who would have got more out of the boys than Middlo did. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fully agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostie Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Niels Kristian Iversen Nicki Pedersen Bjarne Pedersen Hans Andersen Charlie Gjedde what a stupid answer the question was a serious 1 about the new team gb manager and the best 5 riders and you post the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 (edited) And exactly who would they have picked for the team then SCB? Do you know what was going on in the pits? Easy to sit and home and play the manager isn't it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've not commented on the team selection. I've commented on heat 17. I fail to see why I cannot say he got it wrong as I don't "know what was going on in the pits" yet other can claim he could have done no more, yet they don't "know what was going on in the pits" either. Who was talking to you?Maybe you should avoid PUBLIC forums if you don't want the public replying See Wales did well As Well as England, neither were in it Check the race jacket under your name Edited July 22, 2006 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 The mark of a great manager in any sport is being able to coax a great performance out of a mediocre player/rider, instilling a confidence and belief that they can go out and put in that big performance, i dont think NM is that type of manager, to be fair theres not many managers around most sports that have this ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Actually..Middlo - if you're reading this - quit the Team GB job. You don't need this flak. Stick with managing Poole where you know you're appreciated and let some other sucker catch the crap when they don't get the miracle results either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoncasterDragons Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Dont kid yerselves people we have 2 chances of winning the SWC slim and none and slim just left town!!! Middlo is another SGE. Good at club level but cannot produce the goods at International level. This will be his 6th crack at the SWC and we wont beat the Danes, Poles or Swedes no chance. He doesnt pick riders in form look at Chris Louis he has beaten Crump at Belle Vue Andersen at Peterborough and Nikki Ped at Arlington in the last few weeks 3 world class riders. He has got a lot of experience of Polish tracks due to his GP appearances and regular Polish league racing in the 90s. Sorry people but with Middlo in charge we aint got a hope in hell of winning the SWC it will turn out just like the football world cup full of false hope. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...I think Middleditch has done a wonderful job as national manager and should be congratulated, not knocked. The difference between Eriksson and Middleditch is that Eriksson had the pick of some of the finest players in the world and failed to make them gel as a team in the world cup. Compare that with Middleditch who has had to work with limited resources and very few up and coming Brits. Its a miracle he's managed to steer the team into the final four for as long as he has. He picked Louis for the final - and it didnt work. So he tried everything. If you asked all the British riders Im sure they are happy with Middleditch in charge. Lets leave him alone and pat him on the back for a job well done. To help GB ahead of Australia, Poland and Ameria in this years world cup is an excellent achievement when you consider how few Brit riders he has to select from in the Elite League. All the criticism and he will knock it on the head and then you will have someone inferior. Get off his back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Well said DoncasterDragon. Compare the riders Middlo has to chose from compared to the Polish Team Manager. Middlo has done a remarkable job this year on extremely limited resources. He has the total respect of the riders and always tries to get the absolute best out of them. Ask Loram, Nicholls, Harris, Loram and Louis who they wan to ride under, and they will only give one answer. Middlo. Well done Middlo on a great effort to get the bronze medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 A big thing in the SWC is also the funding each team gets. I think it is quite clear that the Poles, Danes and possibly Swedes have better funding for the tournament. Maybe next year if our funding includes super charged machinery as well - we might get a bit closer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Well said DoncasterDragon. Compare the riders Middlo has to chose from compared to the Polish Team Manager. Middlo has done a remarkable job this year on extremely limited resources. He has the total respect of the riders and always tries to get the absolute best out of them. I don't disagree that Middlo has limited resources, but to suggest that the Poles had more to choose from is a little unfair. Considering who the Polish manager actually had to choose from, I think that the two nations were fairly equal....possibly even things were in Middlos favour....The Poles used two riders who were clearly unfit in the race-off, which probably backs up this argument... What is clear is that on a track like Reading, the Brits and the Poles were always fighting a losing battle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 No other country embraces failure as we do here, if we actually have a world beater in any sport its only a matter of time before they are getting knocked off their pedestal via the press, but if your a failure your loved, other countries have a winning mentality, the bottom line is your judged on results, looking at the line up at reading i dont think rider for rider we were totally inferior at all, we had riders that could compete at that level against that opposition as they do every week in the league, it then comes down to the managers shrewdness with tactical moves and the ability to motivate, when greece won the european championship they were no way the best squad of players most wouldnt get a regular premiership start, the managers astuteness then came into play and his tacticts proved the deciding factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 ( Well said DoncasterDragon. Compare the riders Middlo has to chose from compared to the Polish Team Manager. Middlo has done a remarkable job this year on extremely limited resources. He has the total respect of the riders and always tries to get the absolute best out of them. Ask Loram, Nicholls, Harris, Loram and Louis who they wan to ride under, and they will only give one answer. Middlo. Well done Middlo on a great effort to get the bronze medal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ) I am sure you are right, but I am also sure that the British boys would give their all for their country WHOEVER is the Team Manager. I think Middlo has done the best he can with the riders available, but IF a new TM were to be appointed, do you honestly think the Brits would refuse a place in the team because the manager wasn't Middlo? WELL DONE TO THE BRITS ON THE BRONZE MEDAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamer Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 To answer a previous poster, It's not about Middlo being poor, or about naming a manager and 5 (GB) riders that would have won tonight. It's about the future and if most people on here are honest, things do get stale, and things need changing, for the sake of fresh ideas, for fresh techniques. I am not knocking a man who has done a great job with a mediocre team. I think he got the best out of them he could, but riders are getting to "used" to the way he manages, and how he picks the team based on his own criteria... Some people can stay in a job too long, and for the sake of the future, it's time it was changed... What i want to know, is why everyone think "we" are knocking him, when it's not about him, and it's not about the present, it's about the future and things are beginning to look stale. This is my opinion and i am entitled to have an opinion, my opinion's can be challenged and argued, but let's try not to use the same old "well you do better then", "you tell us who would have won then". i don't know enough about speedway and the riders to be able to do that, but i know enough about people and management to base this opinion on experience.... I thank you for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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