SCB Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Yet weirdly Scott Nicholls got it sussed, good on him and his crew!!! hopefully he can continue in the same vein and go from strength to strength, he's got the talent and now hopefully the know how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Scotty took what luck he was given for a change and converted it into rostrum position at last. You have to to use the rub of the green when you are given it to your best advantage. Crump awesome again played with Andersen in the heats to produce when it really matters. Some riders need to learn how to stay on their bikes rather than lay it down too easily in the hope of an exclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirelnutkins Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Yes, i'm back! Airing my views! Â Scott Nicholls (Who's he ) - Thought he was riding very dirty last night! Taking of Matej I've lost all respect for Scotty! Â Hans was awsome last night! Another big night for him! I'm really happy that Sky said that he is in the next GP! What does annoy me is the fact he can't qualify through doing the rest of the Gp series which i think isn't fair because he is riding his socks off! Â The track looked very dangerous last night! The Wild Card looked.... Wild on the track! Â Well done Crumpy and Hans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirelnutkins Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I hope Scotty gets wiped out next GP and see what he says,he should hang his head in shame. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Â Couldn't agree more you you there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Yep Millard is already missing some passing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Millard and Tatum are in a studio in England watching it on a TV monitor. They can only comment on what the local producer is showing at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 blimey a english rider finally showing some balls and then he gets slated! Â its quite clear to succeed at this level you need t be very agreesive, so its taken scott far too long to work this out! Â i actually think it was a corret decision! Â zager going no where ambling around in mid track, scott comes under him gets his wheels in front, at which point he has the the racing line and can go where he wants, zager fell off way to easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 You're just sore that Nicholls finished ahead of him in the final.  FWIW thought Scott was lucky to get into the re-run. But you have to make your own luck and certain other riders pull hard moves and get away with it. People moan that Scott isn't determined or hard enough, and then when he is, that's wrong too. Look at the move Crump pulled on Bjarne in the semi as one example, no quarter asked or given - it's a tough sport - you either play with the big boys or go home I'm afraid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It most certainly is a tough sport. It is the toughest riding meeting in the world after all. It's a pity a certain colleague of yours won't see it this way. There would not have been a murmour if it had been the other Pedersen involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Yet weirdly Scott Nicholls got it sussed, good on him and his crew!!! hopefully he can continue in the same vein and go from strength to strength, he's got the talent and now hopefully the know how! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He had the best white liner around in his corner so he was obviously very well advised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Butler Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 (edited) No problem, I just don't like vindictive posts from people who should know better directed at clubs (particularly the club I support) or riders. Keep posting them, and I'll keep replying. Talking of knocking riders off isn't exactly going to illicit any respect and that's just one example. If that doesn't cover it, you obviously know what I do at Poole so you come and find me. Always up for a discussion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>   Bunny,  When my daughter was about eight years old I used to take her to Hyde Road. She soon learned how to recognise the Belle Vue riders. Whenever an opponent was battling with an Ace she used to bring into play her favourite term of contempt and shout, addressing the Belle Vue rider by name, "Knock the squid off, go on, knock him off!" Fortunately the opposing supporters were always very tolerant of her childish enthusiasm.  She soon reached a level of childhood maturity where she realised that the comment was infra-dig and ceased making it.  Regrettably there are those amongst us today who do not seem to have attained that status. How very sad. Maybe we should pity them rather than condemn.  Ron Edited July 30, 2006 by Ludwig_ron_BertHoven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Butler Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I daresay you're right. If Andersen had been given a permanent wild card for this year he could well have been distinctly average in the GP's as he has been in the past. However I believe its the fact he was left out of the GP that has motivated him so much this year. Next years series could make very interesting viewing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>   Can there be such, Home Straight, surely the terms 'permanent' and 'wild card' are contradictory in this context? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatman Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 ive read this thread through a couple of times now and the feeling from some on here is that scott nichols should have been excluded from the semi final, well i havnt seen the meeting yet so i reserve judgement, referees sometimes make mistakes and i bet we could find many threads where scott nichols has been excluded unfairly so sometimes it goes for you and sometimes against. the next point is for highsider, mr know ( i also couldnt give a s..t how much money you have) and squirelnutkins my first reaction is to say what a bunch of idiotic aresoles you are, but then i have to remember you attack the post not the poster so i have a simple question for you ...how will you feel if in the next gp scott nichols is taken off and is left in such a state that he is unable to hang his head in shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PanthersChamp06 Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 (edited) To Sum up the GP as quickly as I can  1. Niels was very unlucky with being excluded, I thought that was a shocking decision but it got worse with the Nicholls Move. 2. Fair play to Crump, nothing special in the Qualifying heats but did when it mattered. 3. Carpanese, I thought he did alright. He was up with the riders and was competitive so possibaly some Prem League club might be interested in him.  One question from me, I didnt think refs were allowed to award heats in the GP's? Has that rule changed this year? Edited July 30, 2006 by PanthersChamp06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDon Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Meanwhile, back on topic... Enjoyed the GP, but it still amazes me how daft speedway riders are. Not just them either...you have to include their team too. It was plainly obvious how that track needed to be ridden, right from Heat 1, yet very few rider's actually got it even nearly right.  Strange bunch... ...still, it made it interesting <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good GP, but too much bias on starting gate position, for such an event not a single winner from gate 2, and gate 3 a similar pig until late in the meeting, can hardly be satisfactory.  As to Scott/Matej then depending on your country/club alliegance you will view Steele's decision as brilliant or inept, since all the ex-riders on Sky were very clear a wrong call had been made I prefer to go with them. However, with no extra points for being a losing semi finalist (dumb decision) then as I see it if you're trailing in third or fourth with no real prospect of catching second place rider then you might as well just ride whatever line you want and if you're lucky then other guy in third/fourth will fall off, get excluded and you'll get a rerun. Worked for Scott, but as they say what comes around goes around....  Few at Reading will have much sympathy with Matej after his pathetic effort on Wednesday then beating Crump and others 3 days later, Unfortunately the biggest loser from the incident was Greg Hancock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 blimey a english rider finally showing some balls and then he gets slated! its quite clear to succeed at this level you need t be very agreesive, so its taken scott far too long to work this out!  i actually think it was a corret decision!  zager going no where ambling around in mid track, scott comes under him gets his wheels in front, at which point he has the the racing line and can go where he wants, zager fell off way to easily <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Agreed!  Well done Nicholls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I'm more annoyed that it cheated Hancock out of a final spot, if Matej had reached the final many questions would have needed to have been asked about why he was riding like a conference league junior at Smallmead on Wednesday.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes at Lonigo MZ beat Crump, Hancock, Jonsson, N Pedersen and Gollob  3 days earlier he scored a massive 3 points conceding two 5-1s  If this becomes a regular feature he won't be a popular man at Reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 If having your front wheel completely taken away as you start your turn counts as a small bump then you have a point  I suspect that if Hans Andersen had been the rider passing Zagar then it wouldn't have been the yellow light that went on  I'm more annoyed that it cheated Hancock out of a final spot, if Matej had reached the final many questions would have needed to have been asked about why he was riding like a conference league junior at Smallmead on Wednesday.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  I would think that questions will be asked anyway! After all he only missed out on the final because he fell!  i actually think it was a corret decision! Well THERE'S a shock!  zager going no where ambling around in mid track, scott comes under him gets his wheels in front, at which point he has the the racing line and can go where he wants, zager fell off way to easily <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  So if it had happened the other way round you would have been as happy? Come off it Phil, Nicholls knocked him off and was lucky enough to have a ref wearing a union flag shirt to give him another chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Blue Bee Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Well done Scotty great effort to even make the semis considering his position after his first three rides. I truely believe Zagar could have stayed on but he realised thst Scotty had too much speed for him. Then in the re-run Hans Anderson seemed more intent on blocking Scott and allowing Greg to pass rather than winning the race, how nice it was to see Scott shoot past him in the Final. Finally congratulations to Jason on his victory especially following his fall on Thursday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Couldn't agree more you you there <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Another oh so mature, sheep like posting from a plastic dane How about if us fans who don't actually want to see any riders hurt hope that when Scotty does get wiped out his bike sails over the fence and lands on you? No? Well don't wish it on anyone else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirelnutkins Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Another oh so mature, sheep like posting from a plastic dane How about if us fans who don't actually want to see any riders hurt hope that when Scotty does get wiped out his bike sails over the fence and lands on you? No? Well don't wish it on anyone else! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â I didnt say that Scott should get injured! I wouldnt wish an injury on any rider! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 (edited) Can there be such, Home Straight, surely the terms 'permanent' and 'wild card' are contradictory in this context? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Correct, there does apear to be a contradiction there, however, I didn't choose the term, merely repeated it. Edited July 30, 2006 by home straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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