Phoenix Nights Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Howe-well out of form Kennett-Midlo,s favourite Bird-Very hot and cold Here we have 3 riders in the GB squad that for me at least one of them should be replaced by Sheffields Ricky Ashworth WHY ???????????? This is a very proffesional well equiped YOUNG BRITISH RIDER who i feel is getting over looked for what ever resaon maybe he,s too far north to be in the click, he has took over the#1 mantle at Sheffield with great sucsess is unbeatable at home had a massive improvment away from home qualifys for his 1st GB final and scores 5 from 2 starts including a impressive win over Simon Stead in his own back yard yet we keep picking the same old names who fail to impress time and time again (Midlos Favorites) ok he may have not made the last 5 but wheres the encouragement or recognition for the massive steps forward this lad has made in a very short time in the sport in just under 5 years has gone from #7 to be an out and out #1 been in the squad would have only helped his progression gained him valuble experience and helped make that next step up to this level lets face it we dont seem to be blessed with instant replacements once the obvious candidates start to drift away lets get this lad in the loop and help bring out the talent that is there for everybody to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 What does it matter none of them are going to get picked anyway!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Ricky made the decision for Middlo when he decided to drop back to the PL this year and not come up to the EL full-time. Middlo has always said he'll pick the lads who show ambition - afraid Ricky has shown he'd rather earn easy money in the PL than mix it in the top league like Allen and Bridger to name but two - so why should he get a look in when they haven't. He had his chance to do that this year... Harsh but true I'm afraid. As long as he stays down in the PL he won't get a look in - especially when other English lads are taking the chance to further their careers. And no... I'd not have picked Kennett on current form either but would have gone for Olly Allen. But like Rob says, it's not like they're going to get a ride tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Because Ashworth isn't much good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Tuesday Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Maybe Middlo thinks Ricky lacks ambition and prefers the steady plod through the season? Not wanting to 'overdo' it for a single meeting/event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 (edited) Middlo has always said he'll pick the lads who show ambitionGoing into the EL doesnt show ambition i'm afraid looking at the dross that most teams have below heatleader atm. Riding in top league in Sweden or Poland are the toughest assignments atm, maybe why so many riders keep their best bikes for those leagues. Plus ashworth would get blown away in a stronger league as he is just a tin pot gater away from sheffield. Edited June 23, 2006 by Dekker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 At the moment we only have nicholls , loram , stead and at a push richardson and harris who can compete at world cup level . Ricky ashworth is a decent enough premier league heat leader , but a long way short of being able to compete at international level . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Reason being the world cup aint at Sheffield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Because Ashworth isn't much good I don't belive you, he spent last seaosn at Poole, he must be good. An off form Howe, a "down" Bird (not to mention an "up" Bird) and Kennett are all better than Ashworth on a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) Ricky made the decision for Middlo when he decided to drop back to the PL this year and not come up to the EL full-time. Middlo has always said he'll pick the lads who show ambition - afraid Ricky has shown he'd rather earn easy money in the PL than mix it in the top league .......As long as he stays down in the PL he won't get a look in....... Now that is interesting especially as Gary Havelock chose to go PL this year and hasn't Middlo called Havvy in to the squad. So team GB are looking to the past rather than the future are they not I think what is rather harsh is saying when young rider finds it too hard financially to compete in the EL it's called "lack of ambition"? I am sure Ricky Ashworth will be back in that most revered of leagues when the time is right for him and he can afford it. Edited June 24, 2006 by Midnight_Lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartfordHammer Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 I'd say Bird was in there mainly for his expertise around Smallmead. Which in my view, is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralMelchett Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) Ashworth was and possibly still is a real prospect but he appears to have not made the expected progress. Certainly around Owlerton he is pretty invincible but away from there he does struggle. Nothing wrong with picking someone for specific track knowledge, they picked Sean Wilson in 02, he rode very well, particularly at Owlerton in the qualifier, i'll never forget the poor sods engine failure on the last bend as he led Todd Wiltshire. Such a shame Complin retired, I think he was a real find. Edited June 24, 2006 by General Melchitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anders Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Such a shame Complin retired, I think he was a real find. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I´ll echo that. I saw him once and got very impressed. It hurt my heart that he quit, what a fighter, what a style... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Now that is interesting especially as Gary Havelock chose to go PL this year and hasn't Middlo called Havvy in to the squad. So team GB are looking to the past rather than the future are they not I think what is rather harsh is saying when young rider finds it too hard financially to compete in the EL it's called "lack of ambition"? I am sure Ricky Ashworth will be back in that most revered of leagues when the time is right for him and he can afford it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was specifically referring to the youngsters - Havvy has been there and done it and has the pedigree. He could still do a damn good job in the EL as a 3rd heatleader (see his recent guest performances for Coventry and Poole) but for his own reasons chose to go PL - and by his own admission has said that his inclusion in the squad may well be more of an advisory role. Middlo needs the young riders to move up and be taking on and beating the best in order to consider them for the squads. I've nowt against Ricky at all, but really can't see how people can seriously claim he should have a place when he's not riding at the top level in this country. He rode for us doubling up last year and to be honest, was well off the pace on many occasions. After making the most of his maximum doubling up years he hasn't bitten the bullet as say Ollie Allen has done and come up. It hasn't been easy for Ollie either I'm sure but he's reaping the benefits now whilst the likes of Neath and Ashworth remain PL. Each to their own but whether you like the EL or not, if you want to be an international standard rider, you have to show you can mix it with your overseas peers in the higher leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Going into the EL doesnt show ambition i'm afraid looking at the dross that most teams have below heatleader atm. Riding in top league in Sweden or Poland are the toughest assignments atm, maybe why so many riders keep their best bikes for those leagues. Plus ashworth would get blown away in a stronger league as he is just a tin pot gater away from sheffield. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> One Trick Pony.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROAD CLOSED Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 I think Ricky would do very well in poland and im sure in the future he will grace one of their supper tracks an become a popular overseas rider,as for riding in the world cup his time will come. I must say anybody who says ricky has no ambition must be thick, Ricky is a real English man with lots of tallent and was awsome around the showground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Loram, Nicholls, Richardson and Stead - team picked why bother who else is in the squad. Screen, Harris, Norris could possibly get the reserve place but after these, no one else will get a look in Havelock will be around to help out and also in Scott Nicholls camp anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyy13 Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Ricky is fantastic for us.... home and very often away.... Hes stuggled this season a bit with his engines letting him down....but when hes on top for he really is very good! Though, the difference between premier and elite league is a big one....and he needs to be racing at elite league level before being considered for world cup squad.... He proved he has the potential at the grand prix qualifiers....has his engines not let him down.... and to agree with midnight lady...im sure he will move up to elite when hes ready and hopefully prove himself up there! Hes one of my favorties at sheffield, hes a good racer and youve gotta love his riding style! Its great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 (edited) Havvy has been there and done it and has the pedigree. I am not disagreeing with that. I've nowt against Ricky at all, but really can't see how people can seriously claim he should have a place when he's not riding at the top level in this country. But your arguement in your first post for not including Ashworth was based on the fact that he stayed in the PL therefore in your opinion he showed no ambition so shouldn't be included in the squad. After making the most of his maximum doubling up years he hasn't bitten the bullet as say Ollie Allen has done and come up. It hasn't been easy for Ollie either I'm sure but he's reaping the benefits now But this is Ollie's second stab in the EL isn't it? Didin't he find it tough going the first time and came back to the PL to get himself sorted? Can't Ashworth be afforded that consideration too. Personally I don't think Ashworth is ready for the GB squad but you can't use the arguement if he is in the PL then he should be overlooked. Havvy isn't and Carl Stonehewer certainly wasn't a few years back. Edited June 25, 2006 by Midnight_Lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Loram, Nicholls, Richardson and Stead - team picked why bother who else is in the squad. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, that's certainly a novel approach - all the other teams will have five riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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