willp Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 i think something has to be done with the british final. I know we haven't got the quality riders we used to have but it can still be a good meeting if promoted in the right way. Firstly, please change the name back to the british final, i don't think anybody likes "the championship of great britain" title do they? I think it has to be staged at a big stadium where all fans are not to far away from it. Maybe it's time to go back to coventry? The best british riders have to be included to make it a competitive line up, yesterday no loram, louis, havvy. Last year at oxford i really enjoyed the meeting, there was some good racing on a well prepared track, plenty of supporters and really a good day out. Maybe it should be given to aaron lanney at oxford next season for him to promote. He looks like the type of person who would really promote the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Richardson was not too complimentary of the British Final at Oxford .. I think the quote in Speedway Star was "It was crap ......" or similiar ..... The whole event looked pretty farsical to be fair. No Loram and Louis .... who may not be the riders they once were but better than 2/3s of that field - FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Richardson was not too complimentary of the British Final at Oxford .. I think the quote in Speedway Star was "It was crap ......" or similiar ..... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think Richardson was misquoted re the British Final at Oxford. He meant to say "I was crap" given that he garnered 2 points and then withdrew before the meeting was half over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Dean Barker's withdrawal from the meeting was announced in the Sussex press on Saturday morning, and posted on this thread Saturday afternoon, so there was never any suggestion that an injury on Saturday night caused his withdrawal. No reason was given in the newspaper for his pulling out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 For a Sunday fixture the elements couldn’t have been much worse for speedway. Hot, hot temperatures and a strong wind blow dying the track. Anybody who thinks this didn’t play a part must have not seen many daytime fixtures in these conditions or are just a bit thick. The bumps and ruts shouldn’t be there, but they do make the riders work harder and love them or hate them they do add to the racing. Nicholls sent out a message to all with his last to first in heat 20. Steady I think doesn’t have the mental approach just yet for the pressure races and coupled with his discomfort on the bike saw him miss out. Screeny was great value again and now has a full set of medals from the last three years. Harris looked the part and this bodes well for the upcoming WTC. About the crowd and the atmosphere, well the line up didn’t really look inspiring. It’s a sad reflection on British Speedway that this is the best we have. It is without doubt the worst I’ve ever seen and I’ve attended many finals over the years. Any atmosphere at Kirky lane, especially in the daytime just escapes up into the clouds, due to the stadium being so flat and open. If we still had Hyde road it would be a lot lot better. But we don’t, so it isn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 a bad day for british speedway...a national final at a poor stadium(with poor viewing),on a poor track,with poor presentation,poor field all making for poor entertainment.the hierarchy should take a long hard look at things,it's time for a radical shake up before speedway bites the dust (pun intended).this is not the way forward.time for someone to get hold of domestic speedway(and its magic circle-pun intended) and give it a kick up the ass (or at least bring it into the90s)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geepeeargh Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 The bumps and ruts shouldn’t be there, but they do make the riders work harder and love them or hate them they do add to the racing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And there we have the reason why I will NEVER, EVER visit Kirky Lane EVER AGAIN. If that's the only way they have of making the racing "interesting" then they shouldn't even be allowed to participate at Conference level. It's only my opinion, but it's heartfelt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Dean Barker's withdrawal from the meeting was announced in the Sussex press on Saturday morning, and posted on this thread Saturday afternoon, so there was never any suggestion that an injury on Saturday night caused his withdrawal. No reason was given in the newspaper for his pulling out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Awwwwwwww don't you just love Deano ............. well he is Marks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 thats the problem, most of speedway is not run professionally. again i do not agree with neil machin on everything but he and malcolm wright do run sheffield professionally, with a few blips which can be expected in every business but until the riders and most other promoters follow suit speedway will be a laughing stock. the crowds are lower this year as most sensible fans predicted, so why couldnt the promoters take their blinkers off and see that their constant rule changes and lowering of standards would have this effect, because they look after themselves and not the sport. everyone but the self interested promoters know there needs to be a true ruling body in speedway and take away the running of the sport from those who want to look after themselves. the biggest shake up of the sport for the last 50 years was in 1965 when an independant enquiry gave recomendations that were acted on. these recomendations were that good that the basis of speedway (not the rules unfortunatly) has remained the same ever since. we need the same thing again. riders who pick and choose meeting to ride in should be banned, once again paying fans are the ones to miss out, what a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr kennedy Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Awwwwwwww don't you just love Deano ............. well he is Marks mate <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yea two riders treated the fans like crap well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Which two riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 The BSPA need to hit Barker hard with a big fine. Loram purposely didn't sign the forms guaranteeing his appearance at BSPA events because he didn't want to be committed to them all. Barker presumably did sign the forms, but then just doesn't turn up. He needs to be fined heavily. If he gets away with robbing the public with his non-show then it is totally unfair on Loram. If Barker gets away with it, then it says that Loram too could have signed the forms and still got away with picking and choosing which meetings he wanted to ride in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 All riders who missed the meeting should have to provide adequate prrof of whatever Ailment stopeed them from attending. They have helped make a mockery of what once was a great meeting. However the meeting was devalued as soon as the gp's were introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 riders should not be able to opt out of these meetings, if they ride for a british team then it should be in their contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Awwwwwwww don't you just love Deano ............. well he is Marks mate <{POST_SNAPBACK}> riders who pick and choose meeting to ride in should be banned, once again paying fans are the ones to miss out, what a surprise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yea two riders treated the fans like crap well done <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The BSPA need to hit Barker hard with a big fine. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh bless you three have gone and taken what I've posted as gospel, how sweet is that? Maybe you should wait for press releases or better still ask Deano why he wasn't there riding (hence the winkie at the end of my posting it was said not tongue in cheek but in jest, you three have jumped to conclusions here I feel ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Oh bless you three have gone and taken what I've posted as gospel, how sweet is that? Maybe you should wait for press releases or better still ask Deano why he wasn't there riding (hence the winkie at the end of my posting it was said not tongue in cheek but in jest, you three have jumped to conclusions here I feel ) Nothing to do with what you have posted. He should be fined because he was contracted to be there and didn't turn up. Whatever his reason for not turning up that's irrelevant. If he was ill or had a genuine reason he'd have contacted the staging promotion/BSPA and provided a sicknote etc. To just not turn up shows a despicable contempt for the paying public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Loram purposely didn't sign the forms guaranteeing his appearance at BSPA events because he didn't want to be committed to them all.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are you 100% this is the reason regarding Mark and the Championship of Great Britain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Are you 100% this is the reason regarding Mark and the Championship of Great Britain? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its been well documented and stated by both sides that he didn't sign this form, and hasn't for the past 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Are implying that he had no intention of signing the forms or was this written somewhere. I just wondered if it had been written anywhere that this was deliberately (sp) done (I don't get the speedway star and can only go by what I hear or read on the forum).l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Richardson was not too complimentary of the British Final at Oxford .. I think the quote in Speedway Star was "It was crap ......" or similiar ..... The whole event looked pretty farsical to be fair. No Loram and Louis .... who may not be the riders they once were but better than 2/3s of that field - FACT <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This will have been the Lee Richardson who turned up very very late, done nothing but moaned from the time he got there, was one of only 2 riders (Chris Louis the other) who refused to take their turn in the autograph signing hut, rode a couple of races and pulled out because he couldn't win Frankly if you want to even listen to the view of someone who treated the event like then then that's up to you. On that day he was a disgrace and for HIM to criticise that event is scandalous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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