barrow boy Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 And to be fair probably has the best years of his career behaind him whereas Steady is the future. That said i wouldn't have liked to make the decision, Mark is a legend in British Speedway and an all round top geezer. Simon is probably the best prospect for future GP success. Its just a shame this year there is only one wild card. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The both should be in the BRC Final though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 There should not have been a decision between Steady & Mark for the british Championship - they are both in the top 16 british riders - they should both have been riding at Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 So whats the story with Mark? Doe she want to ride? Didnt the BSPA invite? Did they tell him he'd have to ride in the qualifier and he thought he was too good for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 So whats the story with Mark? Doe she want to ride? Didnt the BSPA invite? Did they tell him he'd have to ride in the qualifier and he thought he was too good for that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In order of asking: God knows Yes! Nope! Certainly not. He's not alone, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a61 Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Does anyone know when this starts? Not sure if I can just about make it. I will be in Cheshire on that day, so may be able to fit it in before going to a friend's 21st (even though it's actually on my birthday!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Does anyone know when this starts? Not sure if I can just about make it. I will be in Cheshire on that day, so may be able to fit it in before going to a friend's 21st (even though it's actually on my birthday!) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Errr! It actually says in the title of this the start time of 4pm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 IF Mark would have liked to ride he'd be the first rider on my list, the public love the bloke! I agree with others, the British Under 21 champion ought to be in there, another little incentive for the riders who compete in the meeting .......... So Kennett, Neath, Allen, Hurry, Ashworth and Gary Stead qualified Richardson Nicholls Barker Simon Stead Screen Norris Howe Harris Smith Lanham Apart from Loram and Wilson who would you want there? Andre Compton? Danny King? Lawson? Wright? Bridger? Bird? Wilko, Compton and D King were the next highest scorers from the qualifier. Difficult one apart from Mark and Ben imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Surely the fairest way is to have two semis, the top 32 rider by current GSA HAVE to ride in the qualifiers. No "Let the kids have a go" and no "Your face does not fit", you HAVE to ride unless you're injured and if you're injured, you're in jured for the next week as well, unless you have missed the meeting before the semis and the final. That way the top 32 riders get a chance, that should be enough for all British EL riders and down as far as the odd PL second string. If nesercary, have another meeting prior to the semis where the top 4 from that meeting go into the semis (2 into each) so that way you get the top 44 British riders (+2 reserves), I think that may be a little too much personally, do we really have 44 quality riders? Any rider who refuses to ride in a round get a 4 week ban, just to stop all the messing about, with so amny slots being available, if the "youngsters2 are good enough they'll get a chance, there will be no need to artificially give them a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailays Hat Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 (edited) Who has decided the line up for this meeting? We should be told. If it's down to one incompetent/bitter individual then I can understand it as we all make glaring errors for all sorts of reasons. However if it's down to the BSPA management then I would be staggered. One incompetent person yes, but a whole group of them? How unlucky is that? I'm not that clever, but for what it's worth, if I was God, I would get the top 16 British riders to ride. The winner could claim to be the champion and I'd call it the Championship of Great Britain. It sounds so simplistic, but I do realise how hard it must be to decide who those top 16 are. All that responsibility must weigh so heavily on one individual or his band of brothers. I'm sure this idea will fall on deaf ears, but how about inviting the top 16 british riders based on their average scores so far this season? Controversial I know, but hear me out if you can be arsed. The top 16 averageing British elite league riders will compete.. Oh hang on there isn't enough of them. All British elite league riders will compete along with the top averageing premier league riders up to the number 16. What do you think? Am I an idiot? Edited May 17, 2006 by Bailays Hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) Make 'em all qualify. Top 14 get seeded to the Semi's and no more. Uninterested Louis/Richardson getting eliminated at Buxton would be funny. Edited May 18, 2006 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a61 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Errr! It actually says in the title of this the start time of 4pm! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd only seen this thread in Last Post Info, so I didn't see. Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 For those of you that now have this weeks Speedway Star! Hopefully you now understand my feelings on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Reading the Speedway Star makes me thnk it Mark Lorams own fault!! If he has made the decision not to sign a contract for 3 years, who's fault is it? He seems to think he's bigger than British speedway woth that attitude! News for him, he's not! Good of him to acknowledge he is at least partically responsible!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 I think Mark has a lot to blame for the situation myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony159 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Fail to see how anyone can call it the Championship of G.B when all the best G.B riders are NOT ALLOWED to ride in it . A case for the trade description act to be viewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 They are allowed. If you send your form off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 They are allowed. If you send your form off. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But, as I have stated on the other thread, it didn't stop them allowing Mark to ride for Team GB in the Test Match, the ELRC or naming him for the EL Pairs! and I am damn sure it will not stop them expecting Mark to ride for Team GB in the SWC! I am sorry but I still feel that the BSPA need to get their house in order here, I know that many will say that I am only on this rant because it is Mark, but trust me I would be just as annoyed if it was any other rider! (well, OK any other rider except one!) This form is NOT just for the Championship of Great Britain, yet that is the meeting that the BSPA have decided to clamp down on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Mark was surely not stopped from participating in these events, as they are decided on averages. As for the Team GB test match, this would surely have been down to Middlo's discression and NOT the bspa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Mark was surely not stopped from participating in these events, as they are decided on averages. As for the Team GB test match, this would surely have been down to Middlo's discression and NOT the bspa. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, read the Speedway Star! Rider Regulations Renewal, which states their willingness to honour all official British Speedway commitments. These include Test Matches plus events such as the Elite League Riders Championship and the Championship of Great Britain, plus your club's league commitments. So they are picking and choosing what they allow riders to participate in! Basically from what I read into this, he can ride for his clubs honour or his country's honour, but not for his own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 I've read it Tabby This is probably the only event the bspa controls without the use of averages or Middlo's choice. Hence the clampdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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