Ray Rocket Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Hello, I remember seeing an article in the Motor Cycle News, years ago, about a type of speedway in Japan. I think they rod on tarmac and used twin cylinder engines. There was, as I recall, on track betting. Does anybody know whether it still exists? and if so perhaps put a 'bit more meat on the bones'. Regards. Ray Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 What I did on my holidays By Graham Morris, 1C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted April 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 What I did on my holidaysBy Graham Morris, 1C <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Grachan, Very interesting. I thought it was still going. I think years ago they used Triumph twin engines. I wonder if any promoter would be willing to give a Japanese speedway rider a try or perhaps a Japanese rider give some demonstrations at British tracks. Thanks Grachan. Ray Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Speedway Japanese style is still active. References have been made to it on other sites. It's much the format as discussed here - tarmac tracks, betting, etc. From what I have seen on videos it is more akin to the USA's flat-track racing than speedway as 'we know it.' The last - and only time - a Japanese rider raced in Europe was when Jimmy Ogisu appeared in an Internationale at Wimbledon in the early 1960s. Before that, some Japanese riders switched codes and race a few meetings 'proper speedway style' in Australia. As I recall, that was in the late 1970s. Can't be certain on the period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) I wonder if any promoter would be willing to give a Japanese speedway rider a try or perhaps a Japanese rider give some demonstrations at British tracks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't think it would be worth their while to come over here. The Autorace riders are very well paid. It would be great to see a few come over and do some demonstration races though, and give conventional speedway a go. How about a Japanese GP? That would, I suspect, be massively succesful. Interesting page here: http://www.autorace.or.jp/guide/en/ Edited April 23, 2006 by Grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Interesting page here: http://www.autorace.or.jp/guide/en/ Like the last line on that page............... Triangular tires!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 We had a Japanese rider in Division Two in the USA a few years back. His name was Hideki Ota. 1st week he couldn't slide the bike but won the D2 Main. He improved, never made D1, but was always fun to watch and was a novel gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Thanks Grachan , a well written and enjoyable review of Japanese autoracing . The differences between the two codes of short-track bike racing seem to be larger than the similarities , the two sets of fans watching for fundametally different reasons ( gambling vs team sport ) . Other than for novelty value , i can't see any major crossover appeal for the respective sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted April 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Thanks Grachan, The website on Auto Racing, is also very interesting. It's given me a chance to brush up on my Japanese as well! The picture of the bike seems to show a straight through exhaust, so I imagine it to be very noisy, but a great noise. Do they run on methanol or petrol I wonder and castor oil. Perhaps if there are DVDs/Videos available, it could be a change from horses for race nights in pubs and clubs. If there were demonstration races, maybe they could be held at tracks that have tarmac tracks as well, i.e. Arena Essex and Ipswich. It could mean racing returning to Wimbledon! Very interesting. Ray Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Malcolm posted a link on here a while back which went to a menu of races, including live net coverage. I couldn't find his exact link but I've got close from a link he posted later to a meeting at Kawaguchi. http://autorace.or.jp/netlive/kawaguchi/ondemand.html This shows races from the various stadiums. The list on the right hand side is a list of stadiums in this order: Funabashi Kawaguchi Isesaki Hamamatsu Iizuka Sanyou The grid shows date and race number (1R = 1st Race, 12R = 12th Race). The tab at the top seems to take you to live coverage when it's available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted April 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Malcolm posted a link on here a while back which went to a menu of races, including live net coverage. I couldn't find his exact link but I've got close from a link he posted later to a meeting at Kawaguchi. http://autorace.or.jp/netlive/kawaguchi/ondemand.html This shows races from the various stadiums. The list on the right hand side is a list of stadiums in this order: Funabashi Kawaguchi Isesaki Hamamatsu Iizuka Sanyou The grid shows date and race number (1R = 1st Race, 12R = 12th Race). The tab at the top seems to take you to live coverage when it's available. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey Grachan, Just watched one race, in silence I might add, as at work. Can only say, awesome! Many thanks and would recommend others have a look. Ray Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) Crikes!! What's going on with that tortoise?? Looks like there might be live racing on tomorrow morning at some of those circuits by the way. EDIT - Hey, where's Ivan's post gone? My comment makes no sense whatsoever now. http://autorace.or.jp/archives/ Click Movie for old races and Commercial with tortoise. Edited April 24, 2006 by Grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Sorry Grachan , the main part of my post was basically a repeat of your link , whence the deletion . Thats how to advertise a sport , i love her madcap hat . Watching some of the post race celebrations , it seems most of the punters are less than bothered . Are they perhaps holders of losing tickets ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted April 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Crikes!! What's going on with that tortoise?? Looks like there might be live racing on tomorrow morning at some of those circuits by the way. EDIT - Hey, where's Ivan's post gone? My comment makes no sense whatsoever now. http://autorace.or.jp/archives/ Click Movie for old races and Commercial with tortoise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Grachan Still trying to get to grips with the site, but seems very good. Regards. Ray Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 and i thought Polish Tracks were big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Autoracing is nothing to do with speedway. Speedway takes place on a loose surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Short and not so sweet from 2MW , but basically correct . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Autoracing is nothing to do with speedway. Speedway takes place on a loose surface. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hello 2minwarning, Several motorsports contain the name 'speedway', such as: * American motor speedway * Ice speedway Agreed it is not speedway as we in Britain understand it, but you have to admit, the Japanese autoracing is very similar, for the following reasons: * Similar machinery * Oval track * Anti-clockwise racing I think it looks very exciting, however, I still prefer the 'loose stuff' type racing, whether it be speedway, long track or grasstrack. (Notice long track and grasstrack doesn't have the name speedway!) Regards. Ray Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Hello 2minwarning, Several motorsports contain the name 'speedway', such as: * American motor speedway * Ice speedway Ray Rocket <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is no ice speedway, but there's speedway on ice. Ice racing is probably what you're after. As for American motor speedway, I'm sure thats a track, not a sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 There is no ice speedway, but there's speedway on ice. Ice racing is probably what you're after. As for American motor speedway, I'm sure thats a track, not a sport. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi f-s-p, So British speedway has a monopoly or has patented the name 'speedway'. I did not realise that was the case. Regards. Ray Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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