weymouth alicat Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) can anyone tell me why the OFFICIAL sponsor of the event SHARP RETAIL SYSTEMS were not featured on proper event race jackets. Surely a prestigeous day like this ,should not be accompanied by riders with cardboard and felt pen numbers on their backs, very amatuerish Just as a matter of interest do the bspa have a sponsorship team dealing with this, sort of event. If not i am looking for a career change!!!!! and have plenty of sport related experience Edited April 18, 2006 by weymouth alicat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) Probably because the riders were representing their clubs and therefore most had their club kevlars on. I'd agree that having temporary numbers isn't very professional but it's my understanding that the riders wear their own clubs colour/race jackets. It's certainly how it's been in the past anyway rather than having specific race jackets (which I think are pretty naff anyway and thank the Lord we're moving away from) for the event. Certainly Sharp had plenty of coverage down there in various places anyway. Edited April 18, 2006 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted April 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) Probably because the riders were representing their clubs and therefore most had their club kevlars on. I'd agree that having temporary numbers isn't very professional but it's my understanding that the riders wear their own clubs colour/race jackets. It's certainly how it's been in the past anyway rather than having race jackets (which I think are pretty naff anyway and thank the Lord we're moving away from) for the event. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not sure the sponsors would agree, it would be interesting to know how much they paid for a half page advert and a few banners Edited April 18, 2006 by weymouth alicat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 It would be a first if they did have specific jackets for the event tough - I've certainly only ever seen riders in club colours at the ELRC. Perhaps someone else out there has a better memory than me and can confirm it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted April 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) It would be a first if they did have specific jackets for the event tough - I've certainly only ever seen riders in club colours at the ELRC. Perhaps someone else out there has a better memory than me and can confirm it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> check page 17 of the programme , 1984 ,with (i agree) pretty naff 80s design. but as i have said on many other threads the sport needs dragging into the 21st century if it is to survive, and the more sponsorship money the better. we are dealing with the worlds best here in our sport and off track it looks very amateurish to me, save for Cardiff and 1 or 2 promotions, anyone else any views on the subject Edited April 19, 2006 by weymouth alicat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngy105 Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Think in the 70's when this was sponsored by Leyland the race jackets were specially made for the event. They were split diagonally with the sponsors logo in one half and the club badge in the other half. Maybe this could be repeated in forthcoming ELRC's, PLRC's etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted April 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Think in the 70's when this was sponsored by Leyland the race jackets were specially made for the event. They were split diagonally with the sponsors logo in one half and the club badge in the other half. Maybe this could be repeated in forthcoming ELRC's, PLRC's etc etc. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> nice thought youngy, and with the sky sports exposure it surely wouldnt be too difficult to sell to prospective sponsors or to produce proper race jackets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 And how would the company that have sponsored say Belle Vue all seaosn feel when Crumpy wins a prestigious event as a Belle Vue rider and he is seen on Sky and in all the pictures advertising some Johnny come late sponsors? Prehaps the riders should have to do as they do in the GP's and have fork covers too, and also allow sponsors to be laced over there right leg too, and there left arm! Riders and clubs have gone out to get sponsorship, if someone wants to sponsor this even they cannot expect to jump in at the last minute and get there name everywhere. I agree that giving each rider a cap they have to wear while in the pits/bieng interviewed is no bad thing, even stick there advert on the back of the race jacket so it gets seen on Sky a bit but pride of place? Surely thats the club sponsors? What does the rule book say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressed Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 And how would the company that have sponsored say Belle Vue all seaosn feel when Crumpy wins a prestigious event as a Belle Vue rider and he is seen on Sky and in all the pictures advertising some Johnny come late sponsors? Prehaps the riders should have to do as they do in the GP's and have fork covers too, and also allow sponsors to be laced over there right leg too, and there left arm! Yeah they should get more professional like the SGP, it's an individual event just like the SGP, yes I agree they are representing their respective clubs so a race jacket half and half is good advertising for any company and club. Riders and clubs have gone out to get sponsorship, if someone wants to sponsor this even they cannot expect to jump in at the last minute and get there name everywhere. Any company in the land could cough up the cash to sponsor this meeting, club sponsorship is for club meetings as a team along with 6 other riders. The company involved in sponsoring this event may of made an agreement long before individual sponsorships had been arranged. I agree that giving each rider a cap they have to wear while in the pits/bieng interviewed is no bad thing, even stick there advert on the back of the race jacket so it gets seen on Sky a bit but pride of place? Surely thats the club sponsors? More sponsors the better for all connected with the sport, less sponsors and being too selective will drive sponsors away never to return, also not treating meeting sponsors correctly will have the same effect. The SGP can get it right why can't British Speedway? Lack of communication and too many moths What does the rule book say? Oh no please not another stupid rule about to be brought out, don't we have enough of those tactical crap things and green helmet colours now yellow ones as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy moore Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Whats the point in having sponsorship for a quarter of a meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted April 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Riders and clubs have gone out to get sponsorship, if someone wants to sponsor this even they cannot expect to jump in at the last minute and get there name everywhere. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WRONG,THAT IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF SPONSORSHIP, IF YOU WANT THE SPORT TO GROW AND FLOURISH ANY SPONSOR, LAST MINUTE OR NOT IS WELCOME IN MY EYES,AS LONG AS THE PRICE IS RIGHT. Can you imagine the FA turning down a prospective sponsor of the FA Cup because they didnt want to upset club sponsors,i think not other than the g.p this is the most prestigeous individual event in the calender and if you cannot sell this to a multi-national or similar company you need shooting i am sure that the club sponsor could be featured on race jackets in some way, but how many of the riders wore jackets on sunday with sponsors name on?? i heard it said on sunday,"unfortunately the sport is not awash with money" not surprising really is it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted April 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) Whats the point in having sponsorship for a quarter of a meeting <{POST_SNAPBACK}> andy, but after the restaging it will be 1.25 meetings, (sorry 1 and a quarter) for the price of one, ie 25% extra free, what good value for money for a prospective sponsor!!!! Edited April 19, 2006 by weymouth alicat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressed Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Whats the point in having sponsorship for a quarter of a meeting It pays for the riders to get to Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 WRONG,THAT IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF SPONSORSHIP, IF YOU WANT THE SPORT TO GROW AND FLOURISH ANY SPONSOR, LAST MINUTE OR NOT IS WELCOME IN MY EYES,AS LONG AS THE PRICE IS RIGHT. Can you imagine the FA turning down a prospective sponsor of the FA Cup because they didnt want to upset club sponsors,i think not other than the g.p this is the most prestigeous individual event in the calender and if you cannot sell this to a multi-national or similar company you need shooting i am sure that the club sponsor could be featured on race jackets in some way, but how many of the riders wore jackets on sunday with sponsors name on?? i heard it said on sunday,"unfortunately the sport is not awash with money" not surprising really is it?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can you imagine Man United or Chelsea having the FA cup sponsors logo on their shirts, i think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted April 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) Can you imagine Man United or Chelsea having the FA cup sponsors logo on their shirts, i think not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i dont think fa cup is actually sponsored,i was only using that as an example, but the league cup has been ie, littlewoods,rumbelows etc and the sponsors logo appeared,normally on one sleeve, (as is the premiership and nationwide logos for league games) and plastered all over the stadium, not on a few flappy banners. as i said previously you COULD incorporate both meeting sponsor AND club sponsor on the same race jacket (there is a back and front). and i still stick with my original comment "it is very amateurish"SEE BELOW I was at poole on sunday and was intrigued by the big flat banner in the centre green which i couldnt read from beside the pits. after watching the sky coverage on my return it turned out to be advertising the resort of Poole. Hats off to the promotion team at Wimborne Rd, BUT SURELY THE MEETING SPONSORS BANNER SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THIS PRIME LOCATION Edited April 21, 2006 by weymouth alicat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POP-UP PIRATE Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I`m from Sharp Retail Systems who sponsored the ELRC and the way we we`re treated by the Poole Promotion was First Class and a really joy to deal with ! They gave us a free run to put adverts wherever we wanted around the stadium but due to logistics problems getting some of the banners in time for the meeting we didn`t have as many as we would of liked but still felt we got or would have got great value for money if the meeting had been completed ! I guess now we have a second bite of the cherry too ! it really puzzles me why speedway doesn`t attached more sponsors as value for money it`s one of the best ! we would of loved to have race jackets for the riders with our logo`s on at the ELRC and who knows we may do at the restaged meeting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted April 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) I`m from Sharp Retail Systems who sponsored the ELRC and the way we we`re treated by the Poole Promotion was First Class and a really joy to deal with !They gave us a free run to put adverts wherever we wanted around the stadium but due to logistics problems getting some of the banners in time for the meeting we didn`t have as many as we would of liked but still felt we got or would have got great value for money if the meeting had been completed ! I guess now we have a second bite of the cherry too ! it really puzzles me why speedway doesn`t attached more sponsors as value for money it`s one of the best ! we would of loved to have race jackets for the riders with our logo`s on at the ELRC and who knows we may do at the restaged meeting ! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> nice of you to comment, and i am glad that you were treated well by all concerned at poole. it appeared that they were doing everything to promote their own advertisers as well during the afternoon(cleaning banners on centre green), which makes very good business sense. What i struggle to understand, and perhaps you or someone else can enlighten me is, who sells the sponsorship for the meeting? I read somewhere that promotions bid? for the opportuntity to stage the event ,is this so?? If this is the case do they put the sponsorship against the cost of running the meeting, and where does any profit(if there is any) go. what role do the BSPA have, if any with selling the event I feel like you, that sponsorship in speedway looks undersold, but if there is no one selling it at the highest level,its not that surprising!! Edited April 24, 2006 by weymouth alicat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POP-UP PIRATE Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) We were sold the sponsorship by the Poole promotion and as for the other stuff i.e profits etc i don`t know where it goes ! Edited April 24, 2006 by POP-UP PIRATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted April 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 We were sold the sponsorship by the Poole promotion and as for the other stuff i.e profits etc i don`t know where it goes ! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> anyone else any idea?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 WRONG,THAT IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF SPONSORSHIP, IF YOU WANT THE SPORT TO GROW AND FLOURISH ANY SPONSOR, LAST MINUTE OR NOT IS WELCOME IN MY EYES,AS LONG AS THE PRICE IS RIGHT.So (sticking with Belle Vue), Belle Vue have a sponsor who has paid to be on the front of the Belle Vue race jacket all year at every wmeeting where Belle Vue are being represented, they thinkm, "Great, Crumpy wins the ELRC and we'll have great coverage". Imagine there horror when they find out that there logo has disapeared and instead some other sponsor is over the front of the rider. Whats thats sponsor going to think? "Stuff this crap, I'll keep my money and not bother sponsoring for a full season, I'll jump in and sponsor the ELRC next season". They go away, forget about next seaosn ELRc and the sport never see's there money again. Whe a compnay has paid to be on the Belle Vue race jacket for the season, they should be there for the season, not most of it but not the ELRC or the Pairs because some sponsor has come along for the event! In 2001, Nepwort got a sponsor purely off the back of the 4TT on Sky, imagine they had agreed to sponsor Newport and on the day they found out that someone else was sponsoring the meeting and they did not get the coverage?! Can you imagine the FA turning down a prospective sponsor of the FA Cup because they didnt want to upset club sponsors,i think notCan you imagine the sponsors of the two finalists being happy that the sponsorship place (the players shirt) they had paid for was replaced by some othger company on the single biggest day for the sponsor/club?! The sponsor (original, not johnny come late!) would be a bit p'd off! I know when the PLRC was on Sky (2004), Sheffield Speedway/.the BSPA wanted the rider to put front forks with "Sheffield Window Centre" on their bikes. The riders told them to get stuffed as there sponsors had paid for the right to have there front forks for the seaosn, not just select meetings! Being disloyal to sponsors is a good way to p' them off, all for the sake of someone who has sponsored 1 meeting, if they really wantt he coverage, sponsor the riders for a full season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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