An Open Letter To The Riders At The Elrc

[John Leslie]

What a shambles.

Surely there should be no more big meetings at Poole until they get their house in order.

 

The clerk of the course needs sacking. He did nothing to help the meeting continue and then when the (hopeless) referee asked what the conditions were like he just told him to call it off!

 

Didn't see anyone from Poole doing anything until it was too late. (nor the referee...who looked to be just out of nappies...couldn't we get a senior referee?)

 

Can't see how the riders were too blame. They were just left in limbo whilst the keystone cops faffed around.

 

Eventually when junior referee called a meeting with the riders at the edge of the track we saw Chris Louis urging him to make a decision one way or the other and stop delaying.

 

When the ref said lets give it a go, but we'll stop if we get anymore rain, Crump said "come on let's do it" and the riders were ready to go back to the pits to get ready to race.

 

A complete shambles. Looked totally like the lack of organisation was to blame.

[Grachan]

When the ref said lets give it a go, but we'll stop if we get anymore rain,  Crump said "come on let's do it" and the riders were ready to go back to the pits to get ready to race.

 

 

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Agree JL. It's ridiculous that Crump is being made a scapegoat for this. He gave his opinion, sure, but seemed happy to ride once the initial decision had been made.

Edited April 16, 2006 by Grachan

[21st century heathen]

Don't forget Scott Nicholls at Swindon too. Or does that not count?

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For his actions that night, yes.

 

who's he impressing knocking howe of like that, well done the ref for getting the right result.

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Yes, the ref made the right decision in excluding Hans, but it was a racing accident casued by the conditions at Poole - nothing more, nothing less.......... stop trying to cause trouble.

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I've already said the same thing to one person on the other thread Kev. They were very close, Hans picked up a little extra drive, made slight contact with David, David fell. Thankfully he wasn't hurt but it was nothing more than a racing incident that could have happened on any track, in any conditions, to any rider.

 

As for the risks in my job. I can't even begin to tell you the number of paper cuts I've had over the years. I've got to go back and risk more of the same on Wednesday though.

[SwissPosition]

A complete shambles.  Looked totally like the lack of organisation was to blame.

Looked more like the weather to me, but there you go.

 

SHOCK OF THE CENTURY! SPEEDWAY MEETING IN BRITAIN, IN MID-APRIL, RAINED OFF! EARTH ON COLLISION COURSE WITH MARS! GET TO THE STORM SHELTER MA, IT'S A TWISTER!

 

Yet more proof, if needed, that people like nothing more than to have a damn good moan about something. Blame whoever you like, but the fact remains that it widdled it down in Dorset, and a decision was made to cancel after waiting a pretty long while for an improvement in conditions. Short of controlling the weather, I fail to see what anyone could seriously have done tonight to improve things.

[Trackman]

Back in the good old days we all had wet weather gear as part of our race kit.

Regards.

[goddenmax]

3 blokes pulling a Big bag of sawdust around made me laugh

[John Leslie]

3 blokes pulling a Big  bag of sawdust around  made me laugh 

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Matt Ford's hair made me laugh

[Trees]

I'd rather go and watch a grasstrack, those guys will ride in any conditions. You just had to be at the worcester meeting to see commitment

Ah but the grasser boys aren't professionals are they, it's their hobby?

 

I'd never let a few rain offs stop me going to speedway, yes it's bloody disappointing but we've all been there done that ............ at least when it's on SKY you don't have to account for petrol costs Not that I'd EVER stay away from a Lynn match when SKY were there.

Edited April 16, 2006 by Trees

[goddenmax]

Ah but the grasser boys aren't professionals are they, it's their hobby?

 

 

[Guest Guest]

Yeh but they still put in 100% in any conditions and then still have to work on monday morning

[Trees]

Ah but the grasser boys aren't professionals are they, it's their hobby?

 

ok ok sorry, I didn't mean it the way u think .............. don't want to fall out with anyone with that avatar

Yeh but they still put in 100% in any conditions and then still have to work on monday morning

Point taken, apologies!

Edited April 16, 2006 by Trees

[Guest Guest]

No Problem tees, just very dissapointed with the pimma donnas today.

[SCB]

What a shambles.

Surely there should be no more big meetings at Poole until they get their house in order.

 

The clerk of the course needs sacking.  He did nothing to help the meeting continue and then when the (hopeless) referee asked what the conditions were like he just told him to call it off!

 

Didn't see anyone from Poole doing anything until it was too late.  (nor the referee...who looked to be just out of nappies...couldn't we get a senior referee?)

 

Can't see how the riders were too blame.  They were just left in limbo whilst the keystone cops faffed around.

 

Eventually when junior referee called a meeting with the riders at the edge of the track we saw Chris Louis urging him to make a decision one way or the other and stop delaying.

 

When the ref said lets give it a go, but we'll stop if we get anymore rain,  Crump said "come on let's do it" and the riders were ready to go back to the pits to get ready to race.

 

A complete shambles.  Looked totally like the lack of organisation was to blame.

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I'm not picking out any particular bit as it's all right. totally spot on! Shame we did not have someone who could take the lead, as it was Crumpy took the elad and the poor guy is getting it in the neck! Now if we had a referee who did the job Crumpy had to do, we may have got somewhere! As soon as the referee mad a decision, Crumpy was the first to turn around and make his way to the pits shouting to the other to "come on, lets get on with it", hardly the actions of someone wanting it called off!

 

Most annoying part for me tho was, the Team GB manager being interviewed and asked, "whos your money on" and his reply was "Well as Poole captain, erm, urh, duh, I mean manager, I have to have my money on Bjarne". WELL NEIL, YOU'RE ALSO TEAM GB MANAGER, SO SUPPORT THE TEAM GB BOYS IN THE BIG EVENTS YOU <BEEP>.

[Aries]

I see people are putting forward ideas for new venues for the re-staging. How about Arena? excellent race track and first class facilities

[Trackman]

3 blokes pulling a Big  bag of sawdust around  made me laugh 

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G/Day goddenmax

Yes there are still some good pre war ideas about.

I've always found the easiest way to dry the top surface off, is to drag a 15' x 8' sheet of concrete reinforcing mesh behind a car doing about 30mph. That way you get to airate the top surface and being towed behind a car for 10 or 15 laps, it not only gets a light tyre packing but the car tyres turn the track over the same as it would do if you were to run 3 or 4 heats with solo's. I suppose it's just a way of speeding up the process of getting the track to settle down. About 6 years ago I told them to do this at Oxford but I see they are still spiking the track up, LOL somethings never change.

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Where was the BSPA track inspector when all this was going on at this most prestigous meeting?

[Matousek]

basically to me, these days theres too many gating tarts, really to me the track looked perfect, bet that was dry to when exeter was at the county ground!, basically some didnt want to ride , but when sky pull out in a few years theyll be moaning then, on their paycuts, absolute shambles of a setup!

may i just add, i saw the american young lads race well a sheffield other day, they just get on with it, unlike them!

Edited April 16, 2006 by Matousek

[Subedei]

Everyone getting on at the riders and how bad it looked. But, seriously, throwing half the Amazon rainforest onto the track's hardly that professional to Sky viewers, is it? Especially if they're regular Sky watchers and see the heavy duty gear that they have in Sweden (Malilla last year) and Poland - seems British tracks have raided a tractor museum for their equipment.

In my view, Jason Crump did precious little wrong today. He gave his opinion. People saying Crump, Nicki P and Adams were the "ring leaders" - well, let me see, that's the world's No 2, No 3 and No 4. I think their opinion carries more weight than anyone here, myself included. Crump, obviously, as the highest-profile rider in the meeting is always going to draw the most attention.

But let's not climb all over Poole's back either. They're no better and no worse than any other EL track. In the prevalent weather conditions the same thing would've happened at Oxford, Eastbourne, Peterborough, Ipswich, wherever.

Want to have an ELRC held? Take it to Sweden or Poland and there'll be no trouble.

[21st century heathen]

Re Crump - I'll repeat what I said on the other thread. When he didn't know he was on camera, walking across the centre green, he was clearly refusing to ride. When he knew the camera was on him, in the riders/ref 'meeting', he was up for it clapping his hands, come on, lets go, blah blah. There were two of him on show tonight, as there were two Scott Nicholls on show the other night at Swindon.

[bazaar3]

I was at the meeting and heard a rumour, which could have been rubbish, but the majority of riders didnt wish to ride, but the nail was in the coffin whenthe Sky team told the ref, they cant wait any longer because they have a several programmes to run after and they didnt want th speedway to run over its time limit.

 

Anyone working for Sky wish to set the record straight.

[rabbit]

What a shambles.

Surely there should be no more big meetings at Poole until they get their house in order.

 

The clerk of the course needs sacking.  He did nothing to help the meeting continue and then when the (hopeless) referee asked what the conditions were like he just told him to call it off!

 

Didn't see anyone from Poole doing anything until it was too late.  (nor the referee...who looked to be just out of nappies...couldn't we get a senior referee?)

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Yet again your hatred of Poole shines through. There was nothing wrong there today other than the riders keeness to get out of racing as soon as soon as they could. Yet again we have Jekyll and Hyde versions of riders who say one thing on camera and another off it!

 

As for the Poole Clerk of the Course, he is one of the most respected in the country, taking charge of the British GP for at least the last couple of stagings. He is as about as experienced as you can get. I've yet to see your damning evidence of him, but after him overseeing all the track work that was going on, I doubt he was doing nothing! And yes i was watching all of that - I had plenty of time to do so! Yet again you make comments based on the limited TV coverage you were watching! Maybe he said they'd done as much as they could going forward - I don't know but unless Sky was party to the entire conversation in its entirety between ref and CotC then you're making suppositions -again!

 

So you didn't see anyone do anything til it was too late? Again you were sat in your comfy room watching selective footage on TV. But then why let that stand in the way to have yet another dig at Poole eh?

Edited April 16, 2006 by rabbit