sCATygirl! Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) Sorry if this has been mentioned somewhere else, but couldn't find anything. Could anyone out there please confirm whether the rule was bought in that u15's cannot ride 500cc. I really do hope not as have just spent a mint on a new 500cc and Jamie is not 15 until November!!! If this is not the case please can someone help me with where to apply for licences and how much they cost. Know he has to be signed as competant (sp) by two instructors, hopefully can get that done as and when we can get to some training schools!!! Any help would be appreciated thanks. Novice rider's Mum Jacqui Edited February 17, 2006 by sCATygirl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_Mark Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) Sorry if this has been mentioned somewhere else, but couldn't find anything. Could anyone out there please confirm whether the rule was bought in that u15's cannot ride 500cc. I really do hope not as have just spent a mint on a new 500cc and Jamie is not 15 until November!!! If this is not the case please can someone help me with where to apply for licences and how much they cost. Know he has to be signed as competant (sp) by two instructors, hopefully can get that done as and when we can get to some training schools!!! Any help would be appreciated thanks. Novice rider's Mum Jacqui <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry Jacqui, the answer is yes!! This rule has been brought in, many other angry parents at Sittingbourne last week also! Edited February 17, 2006 by Marky_Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Sorry Jacqui, the answer is yes!! This rule has been brought in, many other angry parents at Sittingbourne last week also! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If they have there liscence they can ride, but the way I read it no more liscences are being handed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sCATygirl! Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 So what is Jamie supposed to do? I certainly cannot afford another bike. The only reason we bought a 500 was because we were told by a training officer that he was confident on a 500 after seeing him ride one. This is a bloody disgrace. Thought the idea was to encourage the youngsters not put them off speedway. I now have a very upset teenager and I am a very very angry mother. Will think about selling the bike and buy him either a mx or grasstrack. Will also think about whether I will actually bother going to any more meetings, don't know if I want to support an organisation that dumps on the youngsters in such a digusting way. I can understand about the need for safety and the younger ones maybe not being able to control a 500cc but where would riders like Lewis Bridger, George Piper, Brendan Johnson etc be if this was bought in before. Maybe someone from the BSPA would like to tell me what to do now or do they not give a damn, I shan't hold my breath whilst waiting for a reply!!!! Can he still ride at training schools on the 500cc on a day licence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyrider Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 my son has a 500 but only ridden it 3 times last year he has not done any gateing .but he got his acu licence this year but not his SCB ONE, how do i stand ,or how much is a 250cc engine ,and are the frames the same etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyrider Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 NO 250 ENGINES UNTILL APRIL MAY £1.639 INCS VAT same price as a 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPR Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 From what i know i think the 250cc engine is a 500 just witha few mods inside the engine so you should use a 500cc frame but if you re kid is small you can cut your frame down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPR Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Also one more thing ok all the mums and dads out there are going to mega pissed off i know one uder 15 has just got 3 bikes built up. but you should look at it that you kid will be a much better rider if they race the 250cc befor the 500cc becouse they will learn how to ride the bike fast not how hold on while the bike rides u fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressed Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Foot . . . . Gun . . . . Bang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackman Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Also one more thing ok all the mums and dads out there are going to mega pissed off i know one uder 15 has just got 3 bikes built up. but you should look at it that you kid will be a much better rider if they race the 250cc befor the 500cc becouse they will learn how to ride the bike fast not how hold on while the bike rides u fast. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'll second that.... Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyrider Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 sorry ben no 250 ok on small track but if you ride at kingslynn on one engine will die half way round the bend and in the fence they go,let them use 500 and goven the carbs down,cheaper and safer,and run them on petrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPR Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 what a 250 would be fine around kings lynn just have to set them up diffrent and govin the carbs lol as iff that would work when every one runs standed carbs anyway,. if the bike dies half way round the conner then its not beeing riden probley and then once againe would make the rider learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyrider Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 you can not mod a 500 engine to a 250 cost more than a new one to do ,already ask bellams, had a honda 250 round lynn crap ,get a carb which is sealed, and 24mm,not a 38mm like yours ben or did you say 40mm lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPR Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 42mm is better. still the riders would be a lot better off riding a 250cc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim webster Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) ive just read all through about whts going on i thin it would be a gd idea in a way beacuse there would be less accedents (was a few last year) but then agin its up to the rider to controll the bike and what standerd they are at but some of them are only beginners and cam not handle the bikes cus they are leight and also the person who is riding the bike are light and will pick up easy on a 500 (as i found out a few times) and most of the tracks are getting tricky and grippy at the moment as i said it is up to the rider to ride the bike instead of the bike controlling you? but the youngsters do need to be encoraged young but you cld start on a 250 or even a 350 if they still do them and work your way up like tht ? tim Edited February 18, 2006 by tim webster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbin Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 ive just read all through about whts going on i thin it would be a gd idea in a way beacuse there would be less accedents (was a few last year) but then agin its up to the rider to controll the bike and what standerd they are at but some of them are only beginners and cam not handle the bikes cus they are leight and also the person who is riding the bike are light and will pick up easy on a 500 (as i found out a few times) and most of the tracks are getting tricky and grippy at the moment as i said it is up to the rider to ride the bike instead of the bike controlling you? but the youngsters do need to be encoraged young but you cld start on a 250 or even a 350 if they still do them and work your way up like tht ? tim <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Having listened to the comments of two young riders I would be inclined to agree with Tim Webster and Ben Powell. 500cc does seem to be a lot of HP for a someone less than 15 years old and 7st to handle. I thought I was the dogs b*ll*cks when I bought an RD250LC at the tender age of 16, but when I consider there are 13 year old boys riding 500cc racing machines my mind boggles. I can appreciate you need a certain amount of HP to get the rear wheel spinning and hence the bike turning, but in reality how much throttle do the younger riders really use? Perhaps a 250cc or 350cc class would be good for youth rider development. After all youth grasstrack riders use 125cc bikes up to 15 years of age (I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganbike Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) It would help this forum and its readers if the postings went through a spell checker.I can barely understand some of the posts !!!!. The area which needs to be addressed is the assesment of riders to be considered for an upgrade.Youth Riders develop at different times both physically and the ability to ride on the shale. It has been too easy to get the upgrade and riders should have to prove themselves more. That said, its up to the parent to protect their child/rider and decide what size of machinary to use for the best. I have said before the 250 speeds will be the same as the 500 so the accidents will not get any less. It is a dangerous sport and allowing 4 riders out on track with a vast difference of skill levels will always be risky. Edited February 19, 2006 by morganbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyrider Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) put 3 in a race 3tt bit safer Edited February 19, 2006 by lazyrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPR Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I would also say there lap times would be the same if not faster on the 250cc as the 250cc will be a usealbe power unlike the 500cc as for the hp for geting the bike to slide lol the less the bike slides the faster u can get around that conner anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyrider Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 faster than yours ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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