SwineTown Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) But then many involved have "been there and got the T-shirt" - they have seen tragedy and seen cop-outs - the former disgraced by the latter maybe? Edited January 25, 2006 by SwineTown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REAR WHEEL ROOST DUDE Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) I fail to understand either the need or the desirability of putting that onto this forum. It smacks of an item from one of the more lurid of the British tabloid newspapers or the gutter press Sunday papers. It sadddens me that this otherwise excellent forum has started the descent to such a level! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whadda ya talkin about mate this is Aussie speedway, workmans sport not Jane Austin's Sense and sensibility stiff upper lip political correctness bulldingo as unlike over there with some we dont put the riders up on pedestals regardless of who they are on track and what they acheived which we respect but off it they are just another dude and its the best piece of print media speedway journalism in years for telling it like it. If ya own a platform to hava a spew like that magazine then as far i am concerned it open license to throw a fire a few verbal rockets up there arses with what occurred and if they dont like it tough rubbishe. So as far i am concerned David and particuarly Rod could of gone alot harder than they did and that excellent photo printed in that article by the photographer of Schlein giving another rider a tonguey in his ear like Linda Lovelace during the riders briefing pretty much says it all of the riders mentioned attitudes on the night. It is still a raw saw point for us locals at Gosford mate as only been able to run one proper solo meeting so far this season and our local riders have had bugga all track time at their local as a result but this articles go along way to ripping it back up the arses of those mentioned who stuffed it that night for all concerned. no worries hava a good one !! Edited January 28, 2006 by REAR WHEEL ROOST DUDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Good on the organisers for telling it how it was. <personal comment removed>. Why should the riders be exempt from a grilling because it could upset them. These are men and not little girls. Go on another forum Ron where there will be no criticism. Everyone knows that Schlein, Watt and Lyons are cry babies and have all seen them cry over track conditions before. Lyons and Watt are two of the mentally weakest riders about and if aren't happy about something then won't try. Look at Lyons' pathetic performance at Wolves last season and Watt has often cried over spilt milk and loves a moan. Schlein on occasions has shown he believes his own hype a little too much and Doolan and Batchelor thought they were some sort of superstars last season after winning a couple of end of season trophies against a weakened team. Notice the riders who wanted too ride are racers and not bottle jobs who believe they are something special and up their own backsides. Nice to see the Aussies telling it how it is. Shame we don't see more of it in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 To be fair on that point Steve, I was in the pits that night and the track was not safe and riders from both camps did not want to ride but did agree to give things a go. It was clear that the track was not safe and was called off for good reasons. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What do you know, you were just there I mean come on the other guys were watching it on TV so they obviously knew more about it than you I cannot believe some of you on here, how many of you ride speedway bikes? What qualifications have you got to determine whether the track was safe or not, I think someone was quite right when they said that the superior experience of Leigh and Todd, means that they are able to ride most tracks, whatever the conditions, but at the end of the day, they are the one's putting their lives on the line, remember Ashley, remember Toni? Rightly or wrongly, it is the riders decision collectively or as a majority, whether they ride or not, and yes we as supporters get very frustrated when a meeting is cancelled for whatever reason, but at least everyone lives to fight another day.It's sport and entertainment for god's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwineTown Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Aussie Rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Whadda ya talkin about mate this is bloody Aussie speedway, workmans sport not Jane Austin's Sense and sensibility stiff upper lip political correctness bulldingo as unlike over there with some we dont put the riders up on pedestals regardless of who they are on track and what they acheived as off it they are just another dude and its the best piece of print media speedway journalism in years for telling it like it If ya own a platform to hava a spew like that magazine then as far i am concerned it open license to throw a fire a few verbal rockets up there arses with what occurred and if they dont like it tough rubbishe. The same has been done in recent times this year out here as well by one editor in a MX print media mag as well with four letter words and a personal invite to a few pissin and whingin riders to meet him personally over behind to the pits to sort it out mano to mano if they didnt like the home truths he spoke. So as far i am concerned David and particuarly Rod could of gone alot harder than they did and that excellent photo printed in that article by the photographer of Schlein giving another rider a tonguey in his ear like Linda Lovelace during the riders briefing pretty much says it all of the riders mentioned attitudes on the night. It is still a raw saw point for some of us involved with Gosford mate and this articles go along way to ripping it back up the arses of those mentioned. no worries hava a nice day!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said, top post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) Whadda ya talkin about mate this is bloody Aussie speedway, workmans sport not Jane Austin's Sense and sensibility stiff upper lip political correctness bulldingo as unlike over there with some we dont put the riders up on pedestals regardless of who they are on track and what they acheived as off it they are just another dude <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Spot on attitude, trouble is most people in this country are so far up the rectums of anyone remotely well known that they forget they're just another bloke or woman who happen to do something different and slightly better paid for a living...does my head in!! Names like Watt and Lyons in particular would have been easy to pick out as the chief instigators of a good ol' track moan. Edited January 25, 2006 by frigbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwineTown Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) What do you know, you were just there I mean come on the other guys were watching it on TV so they obviously knew more about it than you I cannot believe some of you on here, how many of you ride speedway bikes? What qualifications have you got to determine whether the track was safe or not, I think someone was quite right when they said that the superior experience of Leigh and Todd, means that they are able to ride most tracks, whatever the conditions, but at the end of the day, they are the one's putting their lives on the line, remember Ashley, remember Toni? Rightly or wrongly, it is the riders decision collectively or as a majority, whether they ride or not, and yes we as supporters get very frustrated when a meeting is cancelled for whatever reason, but at least everyone lives to fight another day.It's sport and entertainment for god's sake. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Er - Read the thread mate! you are attacking things I said using other things I said, a little confusing. I said that a cancelled meeting on TV is worse in terms of potential fan impact. I said Leigh and Todd might have been listened too. And I said that as a non-rider I am in a very weak position on this issue. And I remember Ashley - from the 1st page in this thread. And the whole "how many of you ride speedway bikes? " line must DIE! I don't have to work in Burger King to know when my Whopper is rubbishe. Edited January 25, 2006 by SwineTown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 What do you know, you were just there I mean come on the other guys were watching it on TV so they obviously knew more about it than you I cannot believe some of you on here, how many of you ride speedway bikes? What qualifications have you got to determine whether the track was safe or not, I think someone was quite right when they said that the superior experience of Leigh and Todd, means that they are able to ride most tracks, whatever the conditions, but at the end of the day, they are the one's putting their lives on the line, remember Ashley, remember Toni? Rightly or wrongly, it is the riders decision collectively or as a majority, whether they ride or not, and yes we as supporters get very frustrated when a meeting is cancelled for whatever reason, but at least everyone lives to fight another day.It's sport and entertainment for god's sake. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is the tired old argument that is always put forward. As I mentioned earlier, riders of today have only one knowledge.. full throttle racing. They cannot comprehend that you can race on a trickier track with a bit of skill and throttle control. Have you considered that maybe the reason for the increase in injuries is in fact just the opposite to the above argument? Riders want super slick, fast tracks so they can rider faster and faster, inches from the fence. In the past, if you went too wide you would be in the really deep stuff, often slowing you down. Now, there is such a lack of dirt on the tracks there is nothing out there to slow you as the fence approaches. One mistake and BANG. If a track is prepared these days, quite heavy, or with a lot of dirt down, the riders do not want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I quite like my Whopper ST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwineTown Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 When that GP was called off one veteran (?Who??) said that it looked fine and he had ridden worse happily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwineTown Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 REAR WHEEL ROOST DUDE - I can HEAR your anger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironside Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 good to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Wow. When I started reading this it was in the Elite League section and by the time I'd finished it was in the International World of Speedway section. All sounds rather inelegant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 When that GP was called off one veteran (?Who??) said that it looked fine and he had ridden worse happily. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have you ever try to ride a speedway bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) Roosty Dude, How many times do I have to tell ya, dont beat around the bush, and tell it like it is ! Top post mate, as I couldnt understand where Berthoven was coming from either... After all the rumours I had heard on the lists, its nice to finally see the story out in the open mate..... Oh, by the way, your latest vid clips are OK, I spose.....Nah mate, seriously, they are top shelf as usual Edited January 25, 2006 by jeffster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rema & Ben Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 No he did not, he was trying to get the sawdust off the track, a thing that blighted Eastbournes home form for the next month or so untill it was relayed before the Swindon match on july 30th. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have to back MD up on this one. I was there that night, and didnt blame the riders for not wanting to ride. They gave it a go, and you could tell from that one heat that the track wasnt up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) Quality postings on this thread. Just a shame the implications are so serious. As for the usual suspects involved in the whinging..when I saw the names - no surprises. Edited January 25, 2006 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowmix Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Fair play to Mick Poole & Rod C - this fiasco could have major affects on the future of Gosford speedway and if thats the case, the riders (if you can call them that) who instigated this should be named & shamed. Seems it wasn't a majority decision by the riders not to ride, but a few whingers who had their own agendas! Hopefully Schelin will continue the way he's started his career and disappear up his own ass before too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Very enlightening article and some good postings on this thread. Managers/track staff / organisers should speak out more like this in future. What ever happened to the attitude, "no brakes...no fear" ...and Cov can keep Schlien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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