Conkers Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) Line ups for the Ice Racing World Championship Qualifying rounds: QR 1 - Kuusankoski, Finland: 1) P.A. Lindstrom (S) 2) Reinhard Greisel (D) 3) Per-Olof Serenius (S) 4) Graham Halsall (GB) 5) Heinz Goldi (CH) 6) Antti Aakko (SF) 7) Sebastian Gegenbauer (D) 8) Fredrik Olsen (S) 9) Andreas Roth (D) 10) Dmitri Bulankin (Rus) 11) Denis Saifutdinovs (Lat) 12) Kai Lethinen (SF) 13) Claude Cadeyne (F) 14) Ilya Drozdov (Rus) 15) Hans Olov Olsen (S) 16) Simon Gartman (CH) Res: 17) Krister Biskop (SF) 18) Jussi Hytonen (SF) Graham Halsall has a tough draw as he faces Posa in his first ride, Bulankin in his third, Aakko in his fourth, and Drozdov in his final ride. His second race is proably his easiest as he faces Fredrik Olsen, Letinen and Gartman, and has the inside gate. QR 2 Saalfelden, Austria: 1) Antonin Klatovsky (Cz) 2) Johnny Tuinstra (NL) 3) Franz Zorn (A) 4) Franz Mayerbuchler (D) 5) Rene Stellingwerf (NL) 6) Nikolai Krasnikov (Rus) 7) Thomas Cavigelli (CH) 8) Stefan Svensson 9) Markus Skabraut (A) 10) Josef Siska (Cz) 11) Viatcheslav Nikulin (D) 12) Turli Carigiet (CH) 13) Mikhail Bogdanov (Rus) 14) Tommy Flyktman (SF) 15) Dmitri Tschatschin (D) 16) Martin Leitner (A) Res: 17) Martin Posch (A) 18) Sven Holstein (NL) taken from Thilo and Claudia's Speedway.org site, which is usually very reliable, but as Iris 123 points out in the Golden Spike thread - The Russian entries could be in doubt due to the ongoing dispute between the rival Russian Frederations. Edited January 14, 2006 by Conkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) Graham could conceivably get 5 pts from the first 2 rides which would put him in a good position.Then he just needs to keep picking up a point or 2 here and there.Lets hope so Will be interesting to see how Nikulin and Tschatschin go.And if Holstein gets a chance,how he goes in this sort of class. I do hope the Russian riders aren't used in some battle for power,but it seems the fans will miss out on seeing some of the best riders in the world,whoever riders Edited January 14, 2006 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) I just got a message that both of the Khomitsevitses are at Kuusankoski, and were refused the permission to ride at practice. They werent happy. I think I'll know more tomorrow. Edit: I'm seriously doubting my own comment here, but like I said, more tomorrow... Edited January 14, 2006 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) And also (Ivan or Daniel) Ivanov and Junir Baseev come for nothing to Saalfelden.. Edited January 14, 2006 by DutchGrasstrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Looks like the meeting at Saalfelden can be followed live here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted January 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) According to the Inspeed site, the top 9 at Saalfelen was: 1. Nikolai Krasnikov (Rus) 2. Mikhail Bogdanov (Rus) 3. Franz Zorn (A) 4. Markus Skabraut (A) 5. Slava Nikulin (D) 6. Johnny Tuinstra (NL) 7. Stefan Svensson (S) 8. Tommy Flyktman (SF) 9. Antonin Kaltovsky (Cz) No scores as yet. Kuusankoski: 1. Ilya Drozdov (Rus) 2. Antti Aakko (SF) 3. Posa Serenius (S) 4 Dmitri Bulankin (Rus) 5. Kai Lehtinen (SF). 6. P-A Lindström (S) 7. Andreas Roth (D) 8. Fredrik Olsson (S) 9. Sebastian Gegenbauer (D) 10 Heins Göldi (CH) 11 H-O Olsen (S) 12 Simon Gartman (CH) 13. Reinhart Greisel (D) 14. Graham Halsall (GB) 15. Denis Saifutdinovs (Lat) 16 Claude Gadeyne (F) Again no scores Bad luck for Graham finishing 14th, better luck in the GSS Edited January 15, 2006 by Conkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) Of course we don't know yet how the meeting went,but a bit surprised at Grahams placing.And that of Saifutdinovs.I heard Bulankin had a fall yesterday in training,which might explain that one Heat by heat details can now be seen here Edited January 15, 2006 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Kuusankoski: 1 Ilya Drozdov (3 2 2 3 3) 13 2 Antti Akko (3 3 3 A 2) 11 3 Per Olov Serenius (3 3 3 3 3) 15 4 Dimitri Bulanki (3 1 3 2 2) 11 5 Kai Lethinen (2 3 3 0 1) 9 6 Per Anders Lindstrom (2 2 2 2 1) 9 7 Andreas Roth (1 3 1 2 2) 9 8 Frederik Olsen (2 2 A 3 1) 8 9 Sebastian Gegenbauer (0 2 2 1 3) 8 10 Heinz Goldi (1 2 1 1 2) 7 11 Hans Olov Olsen (1 1 2 3 0) 7 12 Simon Gartman (2 D 1 1 1) 4 13 Reinhart Greisel (1 0 0 2 A) 3 14 Graham Halsall (0 1 1 1 0) 3 15 Denis Saifutdinovs (0 0 0 1 1) 2 16 Krister Biskop (1 - - - -) 1 17 Claude Gadeyne (0 0 0 0 0) 0 18 Jussi Hytonen (- - - - -) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Seems to be a mistake with heat 17....no winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers Posted January 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 DutchGrasstrack Posted Today, 04:15 PM 6 Per Anders Lindstrom (2 2 2 2 1) 9 I think I've spotted the mistake - in the Speedway.org scorechart, Lindstrom is shown as M (which I assume is Mechanical breakdown but I may be wrong) so his score reads 2,M,2,2,1 but he finishes with 9 - so he may be the Ht 17 winner as Gartmann is shown secind in Ht 5 where Lindstrom is shown 2nd in the above chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarabanko Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 3 Per Olov Serenius (3 3 3 3 3) 15 Still kick butts! He is awesome the fireman Posa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Dinosaurius Serenius! What a racer! What sort of attention does he get in the Swedish media,Mikael? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarabanko Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Dinosaurius Serenius! What a racer! What sort of attention does he get in the Swedish media,Mikael? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some in the Localpapers. In the big papers: Expressen, Aftonbladet and Dagens Nyheter not a thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Damn I'm slow. Well the meeting finished 5 hrs ago... But G. Halsall was happy with his performance. He gated well but on the backstraight others went from left and right. He's heading towards Austria from here. He also said that internationally this was it. Posa was the best today, hit a rut in the final while leading and had to let Aakko and Drozdev go. More tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Kuusankoski 14.-15.1. 2005 Per-Olof Serenius 33333 15+1 Ilja Drozdov 32233 13+3 Antti Aakko 333R2 11+2 Dmitri Bulankin 31322 11+N Kaj Lehtinen 23301 9 P-A Lindstrom 2M223 9 Andreas Roth 13122 9 S. Gegenbauer 02213 8+2 Fredrik Olsson 22R31 8+3 Hans Olov Olsen 11230 7+2 Heinz Göldi 12112 7+3 Simon Gartmann 2d101 4 Reinhard Greisel 1002R 3 Graham Halsall 01110 3 Denis Saifutdinovs 00011 2 Krister Biskop 1 1 Claude Gadeyne 00000 0 Jussi Hytönen DNR Heat by heat: 1. Serenius, Lindstrom, Greisel, Halsall 55,35 2. Aakko, Olsson, Göldi, Gegenbauer 56,75 3. Bulankin, Lehtinen, Roth, Saifutdinovs 57,78 4. Drozdov, Gartman, Olsen, Gadeyne 58,56 5. Roth, Göldi, Biskop, Gadeyne, Lindstrom M 60,14 6. Aakko, Drozdov, Bulankin, Greisel 56,60 7. Serenius, Gegenbauer, Olsen, Saifutdinovs 57,53 8. Lehtinen, Olsson, Halsall, Gartman R 59,48 9. Aakko, Lindstrom, Gartman, Saifutdinovs 58,42 10. Lehtinen, Olsen, Göldi, Greisel 59,27 11. Serenius, Drozdov, Roth, Olsson R 57,33 12. Bulankin, Gegenbauer, Halsall, Gadeyne 58,74 13. Drozdov, Lindstrom, Gegenbauer, Lehtinen 57,52 14. Olsson, Greisel, Saifutdinovs, Gadeyne 58,99 15. Serenius, Bulankin, Göldi, Gartman 58,38 16. Olsen, Roth, Halsall, Aakko R 60,35 17. Lindstrom, Bulankin, Olsson, Olsen 58,52 18. Gegenbauer, Roth, Gartman, Greisel R 59,54 19. Serenius, Aakko, Lehtinen, Gadeyne 58,01 20. Drozdov, Göldi, Saifutdinovs, Halsall 59,15 21. Göldi, Olsen 60,83 22. Olsson, Gegenbauer 59,48 Final: Drozdov, Aakko, Serenius, Bulankin N 58,06 Serenius was above the rest in all areas. He had the style, look and speed. Bulankin took a spill in practise and hurt himself enough to not take his ride in the final. Serenius was leading it, but almost fell of on the 3rd lap. I asked Drozdov about the politics, he said that it was not his nor the riders problem. Riders get along well with each other. But you can understand the frustration in D. Khomichevits: His team drove for 47 hrs straight to not ride @ Kuusankoski. One thing I forgot to ask was who made the decision on behalf of each rider which fed/club they're gonna ride for this season? The ice looked awful with groove's 4 inches deep, but I have now learned that it doesn't matter. The temperature is more important, and how "flexible" the ice is. And on that aspect it was perfect. So I wont ask stupid questions about the track anymore when ice racing is concerned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 I've heard the clubs make the decision which federation they ride for and the riders have to go with that.The one club that seems to have the best of both worlds at the moment is Saransk.Their riders have been in both competitions.Even though they rode in the NRMF Russian final they have been nominated by the MFR for the WC.Well the GP is being held there so they have to really.Still wonder if there will be trouble ahead and particularly at Saransk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 One thing I picked up is that this new fed that is driven forward by Slava Fetisov (ex- hockey star) is not sanctioned by FIM. I personally find it very difficult to believe that it would become sanctioned while the season is on... Then again this is speedway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) Thats right,but it is sanctioned by the Russian sports council(minister) to hold all National motorsports events.So really they have theright to hold all Russian championships.Also heavily involved is ex-Ice speedway rider,Vitali Russkich,who was thrown out of the MFR because of financial irregularities.So we have one federation that is sactioned by the Russians and one by FIM Also,more to my theory that there will be trouble ahead,according to a report in a german motorsport magazine,both Krasnogorsk and Saransk have alligned themselves with the NRMF and so there is currently no venue for the Semi or the GP in Russia.Thought there might be something up as Saransk didn't send a team to the Russian Junior Championship at the weekends,though one was expected.This is not concrete of course. Edited January 17, 2006 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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