Ozyace Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) Whats the weather looking like for tonights meeting? Cheers for the text messages also Lunchman. I would muchly appreciate he same again tonight. My tip is Jay Lyons will be a class act tonight, but no match for Swozz. Edited January 12, 2006 by Ozyace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozyace Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) Just had word from Lunchy - Gosford off Edited January 12, 2006 by Ozyace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) Just had word from Lunchy - Gosford off I'll let him explain <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You cant just come on and say that!! Why, when, how. EDIT - Just searched some Aus weather stations and it could possibly be a bit wet!! Edited January 12, 2006 by fairy4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozyace Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I don't really know i'm not there, Luchy just sent me a text reading 'gosford is off track awful, riders said it was too dangerous' I don't know if it's been raining or anything , but you would think they could prep a track for a round of the Aussie titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Thanks Ozy What a shame, Rory needs all the competitive racing he can get at the moment. As well as it being a terrible state of affairs for their national championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozyace Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 No worries f4e, i'm sure Bryn or Lunchy will be posting soon enough to keep us all in the loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 No worries f4e, i'm sure Bryn or Lunchy will be posting soon enough to keep us all in the loop. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And that is the other big disappointment. Travelling around the blooming Country and not getting so see any racing! Poor Lunchy. Sod Bryn he's escaping the cruel British winter (olny kidding B!xx) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastrana199 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 It had rained last night but there was no reason why track couldnt have been prepared properly. Word around the track is that this is the death of Gosford speedway now. What gets me is that these riders have put a lot of time and effort to get to these meetings. For example, Simon Stead's crew organised by Lee Redmond from Perth. 5 guys in a motorhome travelling distances like going to Poland from England let alone the fact Simon has flown 17,500miles to be there. All the riders are there and will be going to Newcastle Saturday and Gosford dont have the ability to run it 2moro instead No wonder Jason Crump, Ryan Sullivan etc dont want to be involved in this competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramal_smoothie Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 thought the track was rideable, most riders were keen,couple wernt,shame for terry poole, dont think riders get away with that caper at an english meeting,a shame to see the likes of schlien, batchelor,n davey watt (who) COMPLAINING ABOUT TRACK CONDITION .do riders pull these stunts in the uk competition?look forward to seeing 4th round at newcastle. if the tracks smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I guess you can understand the younger riders being anxious about riding in iffy conditions as perhaps they have never had to race in such conditions, there's only one way to gain that experience though and of course there is always the choice of throttling off? The meeting wasn't called off with only 3 riders complaints though was it, surely if the majority said they would go for it then it would have taken place? Such a shame after all the planning and what has been such a positive series so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sir Lunchalot Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Must admit I have read a bit more this morning and now understand a bit more about what went on than when I sent the text to Ozyace. The track was very patchy, it was soft in some spots and firm in others and that's where the concern was. They did scrape a hell of a lot of dirt off the top to try and get down to a raceable surface but then there was the problem of big drifts of dirt lying both up against the fence and on the infield edge of the track and that would have provided other problems. There is also a curfew at Gosford and once it got past a certain time then they couldn't have finished the meeting anyway. I knew it rained the night before but the day was fine although overcast and I must admit before I got to the track I never even gave a thought to a rain off. My thoughts were they would have had all day to get the track to a state fit for racing, perhaps not 100% but at least something that the riders would be happy racing on. The thing that disappoints me is that Gosford has had a long line of misfortunes lately and the patience of the average punter who turns up each meeting must be getting sorely tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwineTown Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Just FYI from my local paper: ----------------------------------- Step nearer to the title for Adams By Dave Eaton LEIGH ADAMS has moved a step nearer to a record ninth Australian Championship title without even turning a wheel, writes DAVE EATON. The Swindon Robins skipper, winner of the opening two rounds at Gillman and Mildura last week, did not even have to try and extend his unbeaten record in the 2006 Championship as the third round due to be staged at Gosford, New South Wales, last night was washed out. Heavy rain 24 hours earlier and rain again yesterday left the circuit at the Gosford Showground waterlogged and officials had no alternative but to cancel the meeting. Unfortunately owing to an extremely tight schedule for the four round series to be completed, the third round will not be re-run at Gosford. The series is now set to move onto Newcastle, NSW, on Saturday night, weather permitting, for the finale, the fourth and final round. Adams was a red-hot favourite to defend the Aussie title even before the series commenced, but with the third round being washed out the overall championship crown now looks a formality again for him. The current World No. 3 is unbeaten after 12 races in the series so far. He won the qualifying events at Gillman and Mildura last week with 15 point maximums and then went on to take the chequered flag in the respective A Finals. All Adams has to do in Newcastle to take his ninth Aussie Championship title is finish in the top four in the 20-heat qualifying event. That would guarantee him an A final and a minimum of 16 points and put him into an unassailable position on the leaderboard. Leading standings (After two rounds) 1 LEIGH ADAMS 40pts, :D 2 Todd Wiltshire 35, 3 Rory Schlein 33, 4 Adam Shields 28, 5 Travis McGowan 27, 6 Simon Stead (guest) 26, 7 equal Davey Watt and Kevin Doolan 23, 9 Jason Lyons 22, 10 Jason Doyle 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwineTown Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 ps - Look at Todd go. Nice return to the shale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 ps - Look at Todd go. Nice return to the shale. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> and Rory, after such a long lay off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) I got this email today about the rain off at Gosford, the Aussies sure know how to name and shame. Mick Poole writes: "I am embarrassed to call myself a former speedway rider. Now dont get me wrong I am all for rider safety and I know exactly how dangerous our sport can be having sustained career ending injuries that would cause these so called professionals to pee in their pants. "The track was indeed patchy after a heavy downpour at 9.30pm the night before.......my 63 year-old father, Terry, started the grader at 10am on race day.....He did not stop working on the track until 7.30pm without a break, after the riders did not want to practice. The riders also provided advice on how they wanted the track prepared, which he complied with, only to be told by the riders to prepare the track in the exact opposite manner to what they had requested previously. "The riders (after hearing the spiel from MA that motorcycling is dangerous, etc and if you are not happy with the track you're welcome to go home without penalty) in my opinion held a gun to the MA officials head, threatening legal action if the meeting went ahead. These riders I believe should be suspended for their actions. "They brought our sport into disrepute pure and simple. Since when has the tail wagged the dog?" "Leigh Adams offered to test the track for them and them he got shot down in flames by these fairies. If these guys are professionals why couldn't they have at least tried the track.......I have a 13-year old son who races junior speedway and dirt-track whom I worry about him every time he puts his helmet on. A rider from Queensland came down to ride his 350cc speedway bike and said he didn't travel all that way not to have a ride - he was told by the fairies to 'shut up mate, you are only on a 350'. What a joke, nice one girls. "I will say Leigh Adams, Adam Shields, Travis McGowan, Todd Wiltshire, Craig Watson, Chris Holder, Mark Jones and Jason Doyle as well as some others were willing to try. I wonder what would happen if these guys get the privilege to ride in a GP on tracks similar to what was on offer and try to hold a gun to Ole Olsen's head? Shame on you SPEEDWAY RIDERS, you should all take up netball. If any of you feel the need to try and explain yourself, you have my number, you know who you are." (end) Rod Colquhoun writes: "...the (Australian Championship) Gosford round was held to ransom by a few riders who managed to root what would have been a pretty good series. The riders in question have not been named elsewhere but I feel it my duty to blow the whistle on the offenders and give my view on their reasoning. "RORY SCHLIEN is fast gaining a reputation as a pain in the ass and this view was enhanced at Gosford. He came close to getting knocked out (literally) last time Gosford held a round when he decided he didn't like the track and threw a tantrum. The kid can ride, but he carries some serious baggage. I would say he was the ringleader at Gosford. He was almost equal in points with Todd Wiltshire in the race to win the new bike (first non-GP rider) and his dislike of the track surface made him doubt he could fend off Todd that night, so he urged cancellation of the meeting. Piss weak. "Note: He did four flying laps at Coventry a couple of months ago in a pair of boxer shorts, so surely he cannot put safety at the top of his list of priorities? "DAVE WATT is a talented bloke, but save for a few good rides at Gillman he failed to fire a shot all series. I think after his Mildura performance (well below expectations) he just wanted to go home and a possible rain-off at Gosford was the easy ticket. Dave has just signed for Oxford in the UK and I think promoter Aaron Lanney will feel more like a kindergarten teacher than a promoter when trying to sift through Dave's needs. "JASON LYONS was a pale shadow of himself during the whole series and I personally hoped he would (have) saved some pride by pulling out of the competition after Mildura, a place at which he normally shines. Further discussion revealed a broken wrist as well as a few other problems which prevented him from committing fully to the task at hand. Sadly, one of Australia's most robust characters took the easy way out at Gosford. "Personally disappointing for me, as I am a huge fan of Lyons. "KEVIN DOOLAN is not a bad rider, but his opinion on this night should have been kept to himself. There were far more qualified people to cast an opinion on the track than Doolan, but mud sticks and he did his share of talking, when silence would have been much smarter. "'There were also varying degrees of dissent from Troy Batchelor and Simon Stead(UK) and I am not looking to save face for them, but they were not as vocal as the four. "When you consider that the last placed rider in each round of the title gets $400 it makes their desire to cancel all the more baffling." (end) * The above comments appear in the latest issue of Speedway Racing News (Jan 25-Feb 8). The publisher David Tapp, under the title of "Speedway's night of shame", also writes on the opening page: "I can't ever recall being ashamed to call myself a speedway fan but this unthinkable scenario occurred at Gosford Speedway on Thursday night January 12, 2006. For the first time in a life time of following speedway I was appalled and disgusted by a sequence of events that did more damage to speedway's credibility in more than three decades of watching the sport. "...the track commentator announced over the public address system that the event wouldn't be going ahead, because a handful of riders had declared the track too dangerous to ride. "You need to be aware that a fair bit of rain had fallen the night before, but no rain whatsoever fell on the actual day of the event. "A handful of riders, each full-time professionals.......said a winrow (pile) of dirt that had been left by the track curator (the promoter) up against the fence was too dangerous. As was another winrow graded about one metre in from the infield. Apparently they created an inherent risk. Furthermore, at the exit to turn two was a wet, patchy part of the track that may have posed a risk to riders. "Race Director Ivan Golding and Referee David Mills together asked the Gosford Promoter (Terry Poole) to remove the winrow he had left against the fence because of safety concerns. Poole attempted this, but his efforts to stockpile so much wet earth proved in vein. "According to Golding he, in conjunction with Mills, decided at 6pm the meeting would not go ahead, yet an announcement to the public was not made until 7.30. You could just imagine how cheesed off the paying public were. I even spotted the great Steve Waugh sitting in the crowd, waiting patiently with his family as this embarrassing comedy of errors unfolded. "I have never seen such a rudderless ship in my entire life. No one was in charge and seemingly no one had a plan. People had driven from all over Australia or flown in from New Zealand for this event; only to be treated like fools. "To those riders who refused to ride; hang your head in shame. Is it any wonder that the sport of solo racing in Australia is all but dead? You are all professional speedway riders and you would have ridden on tracks far worse in England than at Gosford on January 12, so what was the drama this time? I suspect none of you give a rats about the sport in this country and quite happily stood back and watched as the credibility of the Australian Solo Championship evaporated. "Memo to whoever was running the show. The riders that didn't want to ride should have been told to go and sit in the pits and take no part, allowing the other riders to get out onto the track and put on the best show possible for the assembled spectators. The prizemoney...should have been distributed among those riders that wanted to do the right thing. "Bearing in mind most riders wanted to race and the likes of Leigh Adams and Todd Wiltshire offered to do a few laps to check the track surface. This was deemed inappropriate as commonsense was scarce, during what can be best described as comedy capers. "I spoke to Adams and Wiltshire afterwards and both said the track was fine to race on. Adams said any rider that wasn't up to riding the Gosford surface had no right being in the Australian Championship in the first place. Adams also confirmed that riders present race on far worse tracks in Europe every second week." Edited January 25, 2006 by M.D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sir Lunchalot Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Quite honestly while I share many of the sentiments expressed I was surprised what was printed about the riders was so personal. I don't think that level of personal comment adds anything positive to the debate. I'm wondering what will be printed next year if the four riders named don't bother nominating for the titles. I'll bet all hell will let lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 without seeing the conditions, really unfair for me to make this observation or comment, but..i think leigh adams is just a bit tougher than the rest. he is pretty damn good..work on his gatin a bit, there is yer next world champion folks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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