Hans Nielsen

[moxey63]

[robpeasley]

Hi Kevin,

 

Sorry, I've been a bit slow, but Hans's figures for 1989 to 1992 are as follows. I've also included 1989 & 1990, because although averages are listed in the British League 1965-1990 book, the Gold Cup competition is excluded from the figures. It gives some consistency to include the Gold Cup, as the League Cup - of which the Gold Cup was under a different name - is included.

 

1989 M 44 R 222 P 577 BP 13 TP 590 CMA 10.63 FM 9 PM 5

1990 M 42 R 223 P 531 BP 34 TP 565 CMA 10.13 FM 2 PM 6

1991 M 38 R 216 P 548 BP 21 TP 569 CMA 10.54 FM 5 PM 3

1992 M 32 R 176 P 448 BP 9 TP 457 CMA 10.39 FM 5 PM 2

 

All the best

Rob

[KevH]

Great stuff Rob, thanks very much indeed.

[T.N.T.]

Hans also still holdsthe record of most Gold FIM medals which I believe was 22.

 

Think this will stay a record for a long time now as their is no longer the Pairs title to race for.

 

He may have won 2 less than TRick, but Hans was the better rider

[rami]

I might be wrong and im sure someone on here will confirm ---- but if Hans holds the record for fim gold medals it must be more than 22 because im sure Erik won 22, Hans had more individual speedway titles than Erik but Wunder Gunder had 2 Longtrack gold medals and did Erik not win a few pairs/team medals when Hans was left out of the danish team after his fall out with Ole, Well im not sure but im sure someone on here will confirm

 

This goes against the grain for a Cradley fan to agree with a Wolf but i also think Hans was better that trick

Edited January 23, 2006 by rami

[Ron Butler]

On those occasions when Mr Nielsen bit the Belle Vue dust certain younger members were known to sing 'Hans Nielsen bumps-a-daisy!"

Edited January 23, 2006 by Ludwig_ron_BertHoven

[heathen76]

also the fact that hans enjoyed a 20 year career,wheras erik only had 11 years must come into play-at the time of gundo"s tragic accident he was ahead of neilsen as far as world title/pairs/team/longtrack medals are concerned,tho admittedly hans always pipped erik to the BL averages title-the fact that erik only ever rode for cradley,and was seemingly as proud of being a heathen as danish,makes the guy a bit of a god like figure to this day in the black country,comparisons with modern riders such as trick is difficult however-over a GP series hans may well have been the best ever,the GP didnt really come into play until he was past his best-in his heyday consistency was very much the name of his game,wheras gundo was very much the master of adapting,and mastering the big occasion,ideally suited to the one off world final format-whatever-i was privelleged to see both throughout their careers i guess as well as prob the most underated dane ever in janno pedersen,who may well have eclipsed them both(and in exciting fashion) had it not been for such awful luck with injuries

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[Sidney the robin]

On 1/11/2006 at 1:18 PM, norbold said:

He must have sneaked an extra one in while no-one was looking!

I am sure Briggo won five ???? 

[norbold]

1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said:

I am sure Briggo won five ???? 

He must have sneaked an extra one in while no-one was looking as well. 

[Sidney the robin]

On 7/15/2020 at 7:01 PM, norbold said:

He must have sneaked an extra one in while no-one was looking as well. 

Wish Ove would give him one of his.!!!!! 1972 if only Norbold.

Edited August 14, 2020 by Sidney the robin

[norbold]

1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said:

Wish Ove would him one of his.!!!!! 1972 if only Norbold.

Quite the reverse I think, Sidney. Briggo owes Ove his 1957 win. Ove was the best rider in the world that year,

[Sidney the robin]

18 minutes ago, norbold said:

Quite the reverse I think, Sidney. Briggo owes Ove his 1957 win. Ove was the best rider in the world that year,

So was Ivan in 1973  along with Anders norbold,  but we all know luck pays a huge part in sport.

Edited July 15, 2020 by Sidney the robin

[norbold]

1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said:

So was Ivan in 1973  along with Anders norbold,  but we all know luck pays a huge part in sport.

Yes, of course, Sydney. It would be interesting to see how many times the recognised best rider in any particular year did not win the title. 

[Sidney the robin]

8 hours ago, norbold said:

Yes, of course, Sydney. It would be interesting to see how many times the recognised best rider in any particular year did not win the title. 

It would  be very interesting to hear your views on that Norbold , the odvious one for me would be Hans Nielsen.In yesteryear i suppose Graham Warren would be mentioned and the immortal Vic Duggan who was stopped from  winning the title for different reasons.

Edited July 16, 2020 by Sidney the robin

[norbold]

2 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

It would  be very interesting to hear your views on that Norbold , the odvious one for me would be Hans Nielsen.In yesteryear i suppose Graham Warren would be mentioned and the immortal Vic Duggan who was stopped from  winning the title for different reasons.

I looked up Stenner's rankings and found these riders who didn't win the world title in the year they were ranked first:

1949: Jack Parker, 1950 Graham Warren, 1953 Jack Young. Of course there was no World Championship in 1946, 47 and 48 but Vic Duggan was ranked first in all three years.

And then the Speedway Star Rankings. Similarly, no. 1s who were not World Champion in their no.1 year:
1957 Ove Fundin, 1959 Ove Fundin, 1962 Ove Fundin.

Certainly looks as though Ove might have benefited from a Grand Prix style World Championship! Only Barry Briggs in 1958 interrupted his run of no. 1 rankings from 1956-1963
 

[Sidney the robin]

2 hours ago, norbold said:

I looked up Stenner's rankings and found these riders who didn't win the world title in the year they were ranked first:

1949: Jack Parker, 1950 Graham Warren, 1953 Jack Young. Of course there was no World Championship in 1946, 47 and 48 but Vic Duggan was ranked first in all three years.

And then the Speedway Star Rankings. Similarly, no. 1s who were not World Champion in their no.1 year:
1957 Ove Fundin, 1959 Ove Fundin, 1962 Ove Fundin.

Certainly looks as though Ove might have benefited from a Grand Prix style World Championship! Only Barry Briggs in 1958 interrupted his run of no. 1 rankings from 1956-1963
 

I think Ove and Hans would of won more titles in a GP format  Norbold, for me those two named were better riders than Ricko.Sometimes we all forget just how good Jack Parker was and Stenners who named him as no 1 was really recognised and respected.

Edited July 16, 2020 by Sidney the robin

[Split]

On ‎7‎/‎16‎/‎2020 at 10:08 AM, norbold said:

I looked up Stenner's rankings and found these riders who didn't win the world title in the year they were ranked first:

1949: Jack Parker, 1950 Graham Warren, 1953 Jack Young. Of course there was no World Championship in 1946, 47 and 48 but Vic Duggan was ranked first in all three years.

And then the Speedway Star Rankings. Similarly, no. 1s who were not World Champion in their no.1 year:
1957 Ove Fundin, 1959 Ove Fundin, 1962 Ove Fundin.

Certainly looks as though Ove might have benefited from a Grand Prix style World Championship! Only Barry Briggs in 1958 interrupted his run of no. 1 rankings from 1956-1963
 

It should be mentioned that Ove was probably not one of the favourites in 1967 when he won his fifth world title but he was of course the best man on the night. Igor Plechanov is often mentioned as a contender for "best rider who never won the world title". A third place in his last ride that night cost Plechanov the chance of a run-off against Fundin who he had beaten earlier.

Edited July 17, 2020 by Split

[Trotter65]

Nielsen was a great rider and probably the best I saw.. The first meeting I saw live was 1978 at Hyde Road.. 

Regarding Nielsen v Gundersen.. I would say Nielsen was the better all round rider and certainly a better team rider.. probably the best team rider I saw along with Ermolenko.. I think Gundersen on the big nights was quicker though and around Hyde Road was quicker than Nielsen consistently.. Gundersen was for me the best visiting rider I saw around Hyde Road along with Kenny Carter.. Some of the wide lines Gundersen took were amazing but day in day out on every track I'd say Nielsen was the best and most consistent rider I saw in my day since 1978..

[iris123]

Interview with Hans