Dr Cyclops Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 It will not be held at Reading. The place is a dump. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it will be at reading 100% just wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Steve do you like any track other than Wimbourne Rd? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes I do. I like going to Brandon as well, but NOT for the racing. I enjoy racing at Peterborough, Wolverhampton, Eastbourne, Poole. BV, Swindon and Oxford make OK to poor racing, and Ipswich and Coventry are poor, not much between them. Arena I detest. Reading I haven't visited for a while so I will make my opinion later nexy year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha en bra födelsedag Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 (edited) I have been to Brandon dozens of times. Passing is rare. Why should Coventry V Poole be any different to Coventry V another team? Poole have a good record at Brandon and normally win there once a season. Racing though is dire. All over by the second bend in 13 out of 15 heats. And I also see the televised meetings when Sky are there and it's no different. It's terrible stuff. Even the Coventry management realise the track is bad for passing and are considering doing something about it. And your knowledge of Poole is poor if you think its a slick track with no dirt. Racing from heat 1 to 15 on a well prepared surface most weeks, with passing inside and out on both bends for home and away riders. Riders can go out wide and cut back up the inside at Poole. That maneouvre is impossible at Brandon because of the shape of the track. I was not putting forward Poole for the final, even though we made such a fantastic job of it a couple of years ago. One that will be remembered for a very long time for all who attended. As I said though, anywhere but Brandon please, otherwise it will be a speedway fiasco in terms of racing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I will remember it for a long time, especially the bit where we queued from around 1 o'clock to then run into the stadium to actually find a viewing spot! Racing at coventry can be amazing, but Peterborough would be the best place to stage it, it was great a few years ago when they staged it, apart from the rain! Edited November 24, 2005 by ha en bra födelsedag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 I will remember it for a long time, especially the bit where we queued from around 1 o'clock to then run into the stadium to actually find a viewing spot! Racing at coventry can be amazing, but Peterborough would be the best place to stage it, it was great a few years ago when they staged it, apart from the rain! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Coventry isnt the best venue, but it isnt the worst. Oxford, ipswich and Swindon offer simular passing. Poole has a nice stadium, and can produce class races from good riders. Never been to Arena, but heard its OK racing, but the stadium needs an impprovement. Being a wolves fan i think the racing is really good, as on every lap the racing postions can change, im sure other fan's from other tracks will have the same opinion, but the stadium can't hold any kind of crowd. So for me its either Peterborough, Reading or Poole? or maybe even a premier track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Certainly never a premier track. If they can't ride top flight they shouldn't be given the opportunity to have such a prestigious event IMO. Wolverhampton does produce good racing, more from mistakes than skill, with mainly the home riders coming through of away riders choosing thw wrong lines. Arena can hold an awful lot of people, and access is excellent, but the racing IMO is dire and fans are far away from the action on a tiny little track. Coventry is a very nice venue, but is let down by its track. Ipswich ditto, Oxford not big enough either. BV has terrible viewing. Swindon can hold a big crowd but racing is very spaced out. Ideally it would be Poole's track in Brandon Stadium. Great racing in a nice venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 (edited) Wolverhampton does produce good racing, more from mistakes than skill, with mainly the home riders coming through of away riders choosing thw wrong lines. You obviously haven't seen Nicholls, McGowan, Nicki P, Hamill or Gjedde ride the place then have you. Maybe you should have said with mainly the home riders coming through of Poole riders choosing thw wrong lines. I certainly remember Bjarne P overtaking at Monmore this year though. It shouldn't be held at Monmore as fans can only populate the home straight, rest of the stadium is out of bounds. Also think the Sheffield Stadium for a PL venue is good enough to host such a meeting, IMO it's almost as good as Brandon. Since Screen & Stead absolutely fly around the place could also give GB an advantage. Track would need to be composed of shale rather than the mud it's usually composed of though. Edited November 24, 2005 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz brush Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 It will not be held at Reading. The place is a dump. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes I do. I like going to Brandon as well, but NOT for the racing. I enjoy racing at Peterborough, Wolverhampton, Eastbourne, Poole. BV, Swindon and Oxford make OK to poor racing, and Ipswich and Coventry are poor, not much between them. Arena I detest. Reading I haven't visited for a while so I will make my opinion later nexy year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Make your mind up steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Make your mind up steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Drove past it a month ago and saw what the place is like. poor shape, and that's not the track. Answer your question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 It shouldn't be held at Monmore as fans can only populate the home straight, rest of the stadium is out of bounds. Just out of interest - why do they only allow the public on the home straight at Monmore Green - is it a H&S thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 No idea I'm afriad Kevin. Access to the 3rd/4th bends and backstraight were supposed to be returning last season, but have heard nothing about it this season. It gets a little cramped on the home straight when Belle Vue, Poole & Coventry turn up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 No idea I'm afriad Kevin. Access to the 3rd/4th bends and backstraight were supposed to be returning last season, but have heard nothing about it this season. It gets a little cramped on the home straight when Belle Vue, Poole & Coventry turn up! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was even cramped when Oxford were there. I wonder if anyone can shine any light on this though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Drudging up comments from the 2004 programme I think they were closed to building work that was going on to extend the carpark that is behind the 3rd/4th corners but that was completed a while ago. To be fair to CVS I think it's shut down by Ladbrooks the stadium owners rather than Wolverhampton Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Monmore Green If in doubt stand by the coke machine. You may not be able to see - but you won't get thirsty ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Well I want it at Coventry for one reason only - It will really p**s off Steve Shovar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Drudging up comments from the 2004 programme I think they were closed to building work that was going on to extend the carpark that is behind the 3rd/4th corners but that was completed a while ago. To be fair to CVS I think it's shut down by Ladbrooks the stadium owners rather than Wolverhampton Speedway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Even CVS is impotent against these owners..... Well I want it at Coventry for one reason only - It will really p**s off Steve Shovar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Who's Steve Shovar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Who's Steve Shovar? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Someone who will be really pi$$ed off it the SWC is at Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Just out of interest - why do they only allow the public on the home straight at Monmore Green - is it a H&S thing? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No one knows entily why the back straight isnt used, but the 3rd and 4th bend will not be used again as it would cost about £20,000 to make it safe for fans, and CVS stated he is not willing too this as he won't own the ground anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Well there is your reason for the back straight being shut, access to it would have to be via the 3d/4th bend unless you want fans trampling through the pits mid meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 AS superguest has said - the work done on the 3rd and 4th bend last year to build new dog kennels involved ripping up the old terracing. As Ladbrookes don't use that bit for the dog racing, they wouldn't pay to have it re-done so CVS would have ht cost. It would be a bit like paying for a garage to be built in your neighbours garden!!!!! With regards to the back straight - When the work was done in 1996 (hence why Wolves rode their home KOcup round at Long Eaton - ahhh what a night!!!!!! ) it involved changing the shape of the dog track so that it was much nearer to circular. This means that the dog track extends much further out on the back straight. If there was some way to stand on the back stright you would be too far away from the speeday track to see anything useful. Plus of course the issue of how to get ther as Col pointed out. Wolves fans are more aware than most of the limitations of our viewing area - however we accept there is very little that can be done to improve the situation as things stand at present! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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