Guest Lovey Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 So the final GP Wildcard riders are: Iversen Zagar Protasiewicz Hans Andersen is mightily annoyed (stolen from the BSPA website): ANDERSEN BLASTS WILDCARD DECISION HANS Andersen has blasted the decision not to include him in next year’s Grand Prix series. The Ipswich rider said: ”I was the leading rider for Denmark for the whole of the World Cup when others went missing. “I fulfil all the criteria required to compete against the very best riders in the GP series by competing and performing consistently well in the top leagues, worldwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masked_rooster Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 i see hans i telling the truth for once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Think you will find that is a snippet of the official statement released by hans yesterday. A thread was started by Subedei with the whole statement in the SGP section already Dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookieboy Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 It has taken a while Hans, but what goes around comes around!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigsby Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 It has taken a while Hans, but what goes around comes around!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And what does that mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookieboy Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 When you deliberately lift off to influence the result of the World Cup final and then deny you did any such thing when everybody saw it with their own eyes....well.....as I said. What goes around comes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) Totally arbitrary decision, whether you view it in terms of GP performances, league form or any other way. Unjustifiable other than through sheer prejudice rather than merit (ie. Zagar's selection was pre-determined - they only had to choose who they liked least of the remainder!) Edited October 25, 2005 by AndyM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 When you deliberately lift off to influence the result of the World Cup final and then deny you did any such thing when everybody saw it with their own eyes....well.....as I said. What goes around comes around. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did we? Well I was there and I didn't see it....on the walk back to the hotel the main topic of convo was not what a rider had done but how GB had thrown it away. It was with complete shock and disbelief that I read the forum when I got back to the hotel. The story was the same with the rest of us staying at the same hotel, we had seen nothing wrong....and anyway, Scott gated last and I said before they even reached the first corner that we had lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigsby Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 When you deliberately lift off to influence the result of the World Cup final and then deny you did any such thing when everybody saw it with their own eyes....well.....as I said. What goes around comes around. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Still going on about that Have you considered therapy to help you move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookieboy Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Purely a case of Scandinavians sticking together! He did lift off and influenced the race. End of story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonbob Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I'm with Wookieboy. I understand sweeping it under the carpet about as well as I understand tranvestism. We will never know if Nicholls could have won, but I reckon that BSI fancy keeping their GP series free from any possibility of questionable results. HA will always be 'that rider' to a lot of speedway fans. I think in retrospect he may regret it, but only becuase it'll cast a shadow over his entire career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Would hate to be a defendant if you two ever get called up for jury service. Would you like to prove it beyond reasonable doubt? I'm with Crazysue on this one - was sat on the apex of the 3rd/4th turn and had no idea of any of the contoversy until I got home and still don't think it's as cut and dried as some people seem to make out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookieboy Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well, if lifting off of the throttle and looking across for PK to go past and then getting back on the gas again is not clear cut, I don't know what is!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Ever consider that he may have looked across as he felt he was going into the corner too fast and shut off to stop himself from taking the rider off if he didn't. It's all down to interpretation, and an action made in a split second and the only person who knows what happened is Hans himself. It's old ground but consider the fact that the rivalry between the Danes and Swedes and indeed other Scandinavians, is as fierce as that between the English and Aussies, or between the Aussies and New Zealanders, and it makes the thought of collusion between the two nations quite funny. Anyway, no point in rehashing the old arguments, we all have different opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookieboy Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Firstly, when he did what he did, he had only just come out of turn two and on to the back straight, so would not have been near enough to turn three for him to feel that 'he may have been going in to the corner too fast'. Secondly, although the Danes and Swedes have a rivalry, they would rather a fellow Scandinavian country win than anybody else. In Euro 2004, the Danes and Swedes played out a rather convenient 3-3 draw that was the only result that would put out the Italians!! The football world was rife with accusations of one nation helping the other one. So it is not the first time these two friendly nations have helped each other! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Would hate to be a defendant if you two ever get called up for jury service. Would you like to prove it beyond reasonable doubt? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Conspiracy theories abound.... The more open the process, the less liable to corruption and misinterpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) Firstly, when he did what he did, he had only just come out of turn two and on to the back straight, so would not have been near enough to turn three for him to feel that 'he may have been going in to the corner too fast'. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wookieboy - I have no interest in either arguing the point or dragging up old stories. I merely offered a possible alternative scenario for debate not an actual reason. I'm not hans so can't help you... Besides you can see how open it is to misinterpretation when you say it happened when he had only just come out of turn 2...think you'll find he looked across as he was on the back straight and closer to entering the 3rd turn. See, so many differing explanations in our memories... To be honest, it's done and we're over a year on. It's not important! Just let it go and move on. Whatever the ramifications of anything he may or may not have done in your eyes, his exclusion (based on his past performances and future potential) from next year's GP series is harsh IMO, which is, if i'm not mistaken, the actual point under debate here. Edited October 25, 2005 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebay gum Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 When you deliberately lift off to influence the result of the World Cup final and then deny you did any such thing when everybody saw it with their own eyes....well.....as I said. What goes around comes around. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How differently would u view this if someone told you that b4 that particular race someone in authority who should have known better tried to persuade Mr Andersen that he could make himself a hero by performing below standard? There are usually two sides to every story. I will say no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 But didn't everyone think it was great when Gollob tried it: http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...wtopic=3535&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhaines Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 How is that the same? TG team rode a russian to help his OWN team.... Andersen, if what they say is true was doing it to help Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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