2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 What with the last wildcard entries being announced, anyone know who the "reserves" are? eg if any of the riders cannot take their places Karl ps As Tony Rickardsson is quitting at the end of 2006, what happens about his place(assuming a top 8 place is possible ) Will the 9th place get in, or could Tony choose instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 How big a shot in the arm would every club have had last season off the back of a SWC success? How much more exposure, turnover and crowd numbers might we all have enjoyed? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> About as much as when Mark won the world championsip ZERO! Would't make any difference to the mass media if we won the WTC three years running Speedways face just don't fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 People will never agree on who are the best 16 riders in the world - is that for that year or previous years, or in Championship events, or leagues? In my view Iversen was selected ahead of Andersen because he beat Andersen fair and square in the Danish Final. No one can deny that Richardson had a great World Cup, and reached one GP final. The only fair system for the riders is qualification rounds but that would be too unpredictable for the GP organisers e.g. If it wasn't held in Poland then Gollob might not get in, or Rickardsson may suffer a couple of EF's & be eliminated. Still, this was how the old World Champs used to be. I was also quite surprised that Lindback got a place (but that's just based on his very poor performances at Ipswich and some of the GPs this year). We can debate all we like but the GP series is a commercial venture and they have the power to decide some of the competitors for whatever reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jamie Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 poor Hans he should never have dropped the N from his name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) An off night in a qualifying round could feasibly deprive the GPs of a Crump, Rickardsson or Pedersen - would anyone really want that? The selection process in not ideal but a knock out / qualification method also has its drawbacks and should not apply to the top 8 or so riders in the competition in my view. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And indeed their GP prospects if they screw up one night. The greater the risks, the greater the tension, the greater the spectacle. Protect the top 8 if you must (I'd restrict it to the top 3 myself), and weight it if you want, but it must be free, fair and open for ANY rider to fight their way through. After all, if Boris Becker had been subject to the GP restrictions, he'd never have won Wimbledon as an unseeded teenager! Edited October 25, 2005 by AndyM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Think I must be missing something here, if Hans or any other rider for that fact (yes including my hero) was good enough for the GP's then surely they would qualify without have to be given a wildcard entry. If they have the top 8 already why not have a meeting to determine the wildcards sort of a "Best of the Rest" instead of picking out the hat which they seem to have done here, if they don't qualify then that's just tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) Bring back a different version of the GP challenge, run it mid to late September after the series has finished, include the 8 non qualifiers and choose 8 wild cards for this meeting on merit. Or is that too sensible! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Think I must be missing something here If they have the top 8 already why not have a meeting to determine the wildcards sort of a "Best of the Rest" instead of picking out the hat which they seem to have done here, if they don't qualify then that's just tough. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Err..ain't that what I said? At least 2 of us agree on whats fair! Edited October 25, 2005 by London Witch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 That'll teach me to read the thread instead of just replying wont it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 If you ask me it just proves speedway needs female logic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 London Witch and Shazzybird for the FIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 If you ask me it just proves speedway needs female logic! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> dont be daft, there would be week long meeting discussing what colour bikes the riders are allowed to use, and then a month long meeting discussing all their family issues, where they're going on holiday, who's done what in the soaps etc joke by the way *dan legs it quick and hides in a bomb shelter* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Dan best you do run check THIS out Hey LW someone listened to us even if it was the Longtrack they liked our idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 So I see, didn't take them long to set the wheels in motion either. Anyway enough of speedway, what do you reckon to Grant and Phil being back in EastEnders, Shazz. Wonder if Dan the Man has an opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 LW don't we need this position (then we'll talk Eastenders when we're in the door afterall I bet thats all they do else the would have acted on our idea wouldn't they?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 yeah cos nobody else does it to get a re-run do they idiot <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Idiot? I hope your not referring to me. If you try re-reading my post before gobbing off in such a childish manner you may realise I am talking about his comments, not his actions. Hans mouth has got him in to bother on more than one occasion. How many times has he sworn when being interviewed during an EL match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Think I must be missing something here, if Hans or any other rider for that fact (yes including my hero) was good enough for the GP's then surely they would qualify without have to be given a wildcard entry. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How would they qualify? There's apparently no qualification mechanism other than arcane selection in a closed room, presumably by Ole and his BSI cronies! If they have the top 8 already why not have a meeting to determine the wildcards sort of a "Best of the Rest" instead of picking out the hat which they seem to have done here, if they don't qualify then that's just tough. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They've specifically rejected anything like the GP Challenge. And it's not picking out of a hat - it's selection to criteria known only to those who do the selecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzilla Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Tough luck on Andersen and the best reply for him would be to step up a further gear next season in the Elite League and show Benfield what they've missed out on. Hans is an entertaining rider, and imo, he should be in ahead of Iversen who is not in the same class. Overall I do like the balance of the GP Series, and there is a selection of fine riders involved that will further help BSI sell the series around Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Overall I do like the balance of the GP Series, and there is a selection of fine riders involved that will further help BSI sell the series around Europe. BSI couldn't sell water to the Arabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 BSI couldn't sell water to the Arabs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What a ridiculous comment. Did you go to Cardiff this year? No? Well perhaps 40000+ people would disagree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) What a ridiculous comment. Did you go to Cardiff this year? No? Well perhaps 40000+ people would disagree with you. And 90,000 went to world finals at Wembley. Mighty impressive to get 40,000 people into an 80,000 seater stadium. Personally, I wouldn't walk to the end of my garden to watch anything tainted with BSI involvement. Edited October 25, 2005 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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