Hans Andersen Statement

[highside]

Its simple you have to be in oles click to stay in.

[pawnbroker]

And Hans Andersen finished a clear three places ahead of Scott Nicholls in the 2004 GP series. And, most importantly, Andersen's WON a GP, while Nicholls never has.

If Richardson (and Nicholls) are included, then by any FAIR means Andersen has to be included.

I can't see Iversen doing anything. In my view, he's the Chrzanowski of 2006. But we'll have to wait and see who's right and who's wrong.

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The best 16 riders in the world should be picked richardson nicholls and andersen are end of story .

 

If the top 16 rode every year eight would always come outside that does not mean that they should be kick out .

 

To keep saying you did not do that in the gp etc etc is dumb it's the top 16 riders who should be in whatever

Edited October 31, 2005 by pawnbroker

[Subedei]

And how do you determine the riders who comprise the best 16 in the world? People keep saying this rider or that rider's one of the best 16 riders in the world, but where's the proof? And how do you break into this mystical best 16 riders in the world? But Scott Nicholls is British champion you cry. Yes, and Janusz Kolodziej is Polish champion, but he's not there.

Ask anyone for the top 16 riders in the world and you'll get general agreement on perhaps 10-11 with the other 5-6 up for grabs.

Edited October 31, 2005 by Subedei

[robpeasley]

Subedei,

 

I agree with you with Richardson, but Nicholls is a better rider than Andersen, having finished ahead of Andersen in the GP series in 2003 and 2005, and remember the injuries Scott suffered in 2004, otherwise no doubt he would have finished ahead of Andersen yet again that year.

 

Scott is in amongst the top 16 riders in the world... Andersen, maybe on his day is amongst them, but he's too inconsistent.

 

Remember it's only the second successive season Nicholls has been seeded in... in Andersen's case, it would be his third, which is too much.

 

All the best

Rob

[pawnbroker]

And how do you determine the riders who comprise the best 16 in the world? People keep saying this rider or that rider's one of the best 16 riders in the world, but where's the proof? And how do you break into this mystical best 16 riders in the world? But Scott Nicholls is British champion you cry. Yes, and Janusz Kolodziej is Polish champion, but he's not there.

Ask anyone for the top 16 riders in the world and you'll get general agreement on perhaps 10-11 with the other 5-6 up for grabs.

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Ask anyone in the world if scott nicholls is a 16 top rider and they would say yes .

 

If you think he's not and can tell me who the 16 better riders are good luck to you

 

I do take your point about 10-11 being easy to pick and the other 5 or 6 being up in the air hence this topic

[FlyinRyan]

Remember it's only the second successive season Nicholls has been seeded in... in Andersen's case, it would be his third, which is too much.

 

All the best

Rob

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Andersen was not seeded for 2003, he qualified. He was seeded for 2004, following his missing a lot of GP's thru injury a la Hampel in 2003. He was seeded for 2005 after finishing 9th in 2004 and missing automatic qualification by 1 point. He also had an ef when in a qualifying place in the GP Challenge after being the highest scorer in the meeting. Any way you look at it, it is wrong for him to be excluded. You obviously don't like him and are totally biased towards Iversen.

[robpeasley]

FlyinRyan,

 

So what I said was correct... that Andersen was seeded into the 2004 series (one year), again in 2005 (two years), and had he again been seeded into the 2006 series, that would have made it three years on the trot.

 

In contrast, Nicholls qualified for the 2004 series.

 

I may have a bias to Iversen, but I believe on the back of two very good wildcard appearances (a fifth and a ninth) plus second place in the Danish Championships, he deserves to be given a chance, while Andersen has been enough chances already.

 

All the best

Rob

[Subedei]

Remember it's only the second successive season Nicholls has been seeded in... in Andersen's case, it would be his third, which is too much.

 

Twice is TOO much. But, it's done. Just remember this next season when Nicholls has his begging bowl out again.

[FlyinRyan]

Twice is TOO much. But, it's done. Just remember this next season when Nicholls has his begging bowl out again.

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and Richardson.

[FlyinRyan]

I may have a bias to Iversen, but I believe on the back of two very good wildcard appearances (a fifth and a ninth) plus second place in the Danish Championships, he deserves to be given a chance, while Andersen has been enough chances already.

 

All the best

Rob

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I don't think anyone who finishes 25th in the EL averages deserves a chance, an average earned mostly as a reserve and a second string. Could just have easily put Bomber or Steady in instead of Richardson to make it more competitive for the bottom four places imo, because there is no doubt who will be at the bottom. If I'm paying £45 to watch the worlds best 15, I expect to see the worlds best 15, Iversen, Zagar and Pepe do not fall into this category, the former two not by a long way. My family will be saving a lot of money next season, we may even lose the habit of going to live GP's again, who knows. Bad business decision from BSI, because I won't be the only one who thinks like this.

[shazzybird]

Don't know about anyone else but I found Cardiff a bit flat last year, atmosphere was excellent, racing was excellent but there seemed to be something missing for me and quite a few other fans ...................... oh I know what it was MARK LORAM

[Trees]

In text speak "he's da man" lol .......... not another more popular in GB, oops, I'm repeating myself!

[FlyinRyan]

In text speak "he's da man" lol .......... not another more popular in GB, oops, I'm repeating myself!

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Hey, I know Loram is getting on but I sure as heck would rather have him in the GP than Iversen, Zagar, Pepe and Richardson.

[Hazzman]

Loram is no longer held in the high regard he was. Depite him being a 2000 World Champion and etc. After his various injures and dips and ups in form mean he is no longer considered Britains best rider. His time has gone, a bit like PePe's.

 

May the reason for a flatter atmosphere in Cardiff was the fact that no British done brilliantly well. Nicholls won a few races and managed to scrape through to the Semi-Final.

 

Richardson was a waste of time.

 

Norris tried his hardest but did not perform to his true potential.

 

Cardiff was good this year, more drama than most years (Crump and Pedersen) plus the Wall Of Death by TRick.

[Trees]

Hey, I know Loram is getting on but I sure as heck would rather have him in the GP than Iversen, Zagar, Pepe and Richardson.

That's what I meant lol

[lupus]

I don't think anyone who finishes 25th in the EL averages deserves a chance, an average earned mostly as a reserve and a second string.  Could just have easily put Bomber or Steady in instead of Richardson to make it more competitive for the bottom four places imo, because there is no doubt who will be at the bottom. If I'm paying £45 to watch the worlds best 15, I expect to see the worlds best 15, Iversen, Zagar and Pepe do not fall into this category, the former two not by a long way.  My family will be saving a lot of money next season, we may even lose the habit of going to live GP's again, who knows. Bad business decision from BSI, because I won't be the only one who thinks like this.

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And this is the point....

 

Iversen is, a best, an EL 3rd heat leader/top second string! He's not much higher in the other leagues either. If I were to suggest Ales Dryml or Charlie Gjedde for a place, who'd agree? Yet both of these have higher averages than Iversen....not to forget Mr Andersen who's average is a point and a half higher than Iversen. If Iversen gets in the what about Kasprzak (half a point higher) or Bjerre (just 2 hundreths lower). Or how about Freddie Lindgren - his average may be lower than Iversen's but it's higher than Lindback!

 

It IS very difficult to choose who but the inclusion of Iversen and Zagar is cynical at the least! As I said before the former is Ole's protege and the latter is the only halfway decent rider from an obsure eastern european country which happens to have a GP! The Iversen fan club can try to justify it all they like but there ARE better riders NOW (not in 2 years time!) who have missed out so that Ole's buddy can get a place!!!!

[highside]

Every rider in the world should have the same chance ,bring back all the propper qualifing with NO rider seeded through ,then you will get a REAL WORLD CHAMPION .

[Chris]

Every rider in the world should have the same chance ,bring back all the propper qualifing with NO rider seeded through ,then you will get a REAL WORLD CHAMPION .

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Yeah that Rickardsson fella ain't a real world champion is he?

[shazzybird]

May the reason for a flatter atmosphere in Cardiff was the fact that no British done brilliantly well. Nicholls won a few races and managed to scrape through to the Semi-Final.

 

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No Brit ever does well, we're used to that now but it doesn't stop us losing our voices in the first few heats and each time they are shown on screen running out of air horn gas before the meeting starts. (Before anyone nitpicks here Kev will vouch I didn't cheer for Richardson would rather cheer on (spit spit) Nikki P!)

[Subedei]

OMG Lee has done Nikki P!

 

The shazzybird comment, from Live Updates, during the SWC round at Swindon. Come on young lady, you were cheering for him that night and in the final.