American League Starts Today 2

[Main Man]

Blimey Speedyguy you're off again!! Give Russell Paine a chance will you --it's only just begun!! Yet again you are being negative about something new --the 1940's are over and gone, never to be revisited !!

Give the guy credit for having the balls to do what he is doing --who knows in 10 years time promoters may be clammering after riders from Spain???

 

Anyway this thread was about the American League--how the heck have we got on to talking about Spain????

[Guest speedyguy]

Blimey Speedyguy you're off again!! Give Russell Paine a chance will you --it's only just begun!! Yet again you are being negative about something new --the 1940's are over and gone, never to be revisited !!

Give the guy credit for having the balls to do what he is doing --who knows in 10 years time promoters may be clammering after riders from Spain???

 

Anyway this thread was about the American League--how the heck have we got on to talking about Spain????

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You tell me! Do you want to know anything about the old pre-war Spanish riders, the brothers Poto Primo and Poto Segundo (yes that is correct). I think they also appeared in second-half races at Wembley around 1933.

[speedway2006]

You tell me! Do you want to know anything about the old pre-war Spanish riders, the brothers Poto Primo and Poto Segundo (yes that is correct). I think they also appeared in second-half races at Wembley around 1933.

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Having followed this thread with initial interest in the American League, and then reading some of the comments from Speedy Guy, i can only comment that far too many people in this sport live in the past.

 

This Dinosaur approach has nearly brought the sport to it's knees on a few occassions in the past and we can only thank the lord above that SpeedyGuy is not a memeber of the BSPA.

 

To decry the the purpose of the CL as fastracking youngsters is quite ludicrous. I find it even more incredible that Speedy Guy watches CL himself at Wimbledon, im suprised i havent seen similar comments on the Wimbledon thread laughing off any future attempt to find an alternative site for the Dons, purely because it couldn't be done 150 years ago or over a similar time scale.

 

Indeed, the history of the sport is very important, but this outdated ranting really doesnt do anyone within the sport anygood. I assume you wish to keep seeing regular speedway Speedyguy, but if there were many others adopting a similar theory to yours inside the sport, i fear we would all be doomed and speedway would be out of existence within 10 years!!

[Guest speedyguy]

Having followed this thread with initial interest in the American League, and then reading some of the comments from Speedy Guy, i can only comment that far too many people in this sport live in the past.

 

This Dinosaur approach has nearly brought the sport to it's knees on a few occassions in the past and we can only thank the lord above that SpeedyGuy is not a memeber of the BSPA.

 

To decry the the purpose of the CL as fastracking youngsters is quite ludicrous.  I find it even more incredible that Speedy Guy watches CL himself at Wimbledon, im suprised i havent seen similar comments on the Wimbledon thread laughing off any future attempt to find an alternative site for the Dons, purely because it couldn't be done 150 years ago or over a similar time scale.

 

Indeed, the history of the sport is very important, but this outdated ranting really doesnt do anyone within the sport anygood. I assume you wish to keep seeing regular speedway Speedyguy, but if there were many others adopting a similar theory to yours inside the sport, i fear we would all be doomed and speedway would be out of existence within 10 years!!

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My comments on finding the Dons a new home are well-chronicled. I started the actual Conference League theme about where the club might be based in 2006.

I cannot understand why, if we are so keen to help British youngsters into the sport via the CL, there is so much excitement because a league-of-sorts has sprung up in the USA and the possibility that this could produce riders for our leagues. Similar thoughts exist in regard to a suggested Kiwi tour to Britain in 2006 with the suggestion it might find riders for our teams.

If we want to encourage British talent, why back the American League (one track four teams?). Is it not a general throught in the sport that there are too many foreign riders racing here anyway? Not that much can be done about the EU riders - there's laws in regard to employment rights to back them.

I feel a yearning for the days of Vic Duggan, Frank Dolan and Jimmy Gibb...if only we could. Class riders with lots of persona. Ooops - stop the nostalgia!!

[speedway2006]

My comments on finding the Dons a new home are well-chronicled. I started the actual Conference League theme about where the club might be based in 2006.

I cannot understand why, if we are so keen to help British youngsters into the sport via the CL, there is so much excitement because a league-of-sorts has sprung up in the USA and the possibility that this could produce riders for our leagues. Similar thoughts exist in regard to a suggested Kiwi tour to Britain in 2006 with the suggestion it might find riders for our teams.

If we want to encourage British talent, why back the American League (one track four teams?). Is it not a general throught in the sport that there are too many foreign riders racing here anyway? Not  that much can be done about the EU riders - there's laws in regard to employment rights to back them.

I feel a yearning for the days of Vic Duggan, Frank Dolan and Jimmy Gibb...if only we could. Class riders with lots of persona. Ooops - stop the nostalgia!!

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We are mereley showing an interest in a foreign Speedway League. This does not mean that we are not interested in the development of youth in the UK.

 

If the foreigners that we have racing in the UK at the moment were absent, we would have a pretty poor product on our hands. It is a fact that as a small country, and not a big Speedway nation, we have to rely heavily on foreign riders competing in the UK, and in my view, i dont ever see this changing.

 

Shouldn't we as Speedway fans be supporting efforts around the World to try and make speedway better and stronger, wether that be in New Zealand, USA or any other Nation. I would expect any Speedway fan to be pleased that some sort of racing on a team level was being put together in the states, it does none of us any personal harm and people are working hard on trying to make the sport a success, and instead of decrying what they are trying to do perhaps offer them some words of encouragement. Surely it is in everyones interests that they succeed.

[Main Man]

Well said speedway2006 --but you will find Speedyguy lives in the past and is against any forward thinking and promotion of any type.

[soloboy]

Why is SpeedwayGuy even on this thread if he is not interested in international speedway?

My guess is, he needs to look at what the real issue is in his life and I bet it has nothing to do with speedway...

I say lets not respond to his loving comments and get back to what this thread is really about - SUPPORTING SPEEDWAY where ever it is...

[Guest speedyguy]

Why is SpeedwayGuy even on this thread if he is not interested in international speedway?

My guess is, he needs to look at what the real issue is in his life and I bet it has nothing to do with speedway...

I say lets not respond to his loving comments and get back to what this thread is really about - SUPPORTING SPEEDWAY where ever it is... 

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If by this you mean that speedway - international or domestic - is the real issue in your life, then I feel very sad.

I do follow international speedway very carefully, as well as the sport at a dometic level. I have been going to meetings since I went to New Cross in April 1946. And since then have seen the sport both in this country and in Europe.

Speedway is a passionate interest in my life but certainly not its real issue. To show how interested I am at international level, did you know that this coming Sunday's meeting at Rosebank in New Zealand has been called off because of bad weather? Did you know that Champion Speedway in Nre York State,USA, has staged its last ever meeting? Yes I support speedway and have done so for more than 59 years.

I like to debate issues and when I am proved wrong do acknowledge it.

[greyhoundp]

Only just spotted this topic;

My thoughts after talking to various people over some months almost everyone says where are the next generation of Americans,after H&H we have, Yarrow,Janniro,Fisher then who?the Dream Team ,its looks to me the American Individual system was/is almost dead.

What they have in Baseball,American Football,etc is City Teams sponsored by big business if only America could get 10 or 12 Teams from various areas I believe it could really take off,but to do this one has to start somewhere and this is what the guys are trying to do.

 

What the next step should be is a team of riders from over here of say 14, visiting the USA annually riding as guests for various Teams then at the end of the series

we could have International matches official or otherwise riding against the Yanks,this i believe would put bums on seats.

I believe there would be no lack of riders willing to go to America,or sponsors in America,Obviously this would be in our close season.

 

Be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on something along these lines.

[TMGracing]

nly just spotted this topic;

What the next step should be is a team of riders from over here of say 14, visiting the USA annually riding as guests for various Teams then at the end of the series

we could have International matches official or otherwise riding against the Yanks,this i believe would put bums on seats.

  I believe there would be no lack of riders willing to go to America,or sponsors in America,Obviously this would be in our close season.

 

Be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on something along these lines.

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We are currently working on a plan to bring a UK Team over to the USA in early 2006 to stay for about four to six weeks and do a mini series with the possibility of the final race on a live webcast.Will give more info when we have it.

[Main Man]

Well now I'm back from sunning myself (it rained for the first day and a half!!) I will start the planning of what TMGracing has just posted.

Already have some interest in the proposed trip but need to finalise a few things now --and as I head for Oz in 3 weeks for Shane Parker's 20 year meeting at Gillman I have to get my skates on --in addition to working on a new track for next year as well !!

 

More news soon folks!! (on all fronts!)