Robyn1972 Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 You would have thought that when discussing who should be in the series to decide the World Champ that such knowledge would be the minimum requirement.We ain't trying to find the line up for the Elite league riders championship Edit: Also considering there isn't an Elite league track on the GP circuit,but Polish and Swedish league tracks it might be more important to look at form there! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right. I'll limit my posting to the Top section of the board from now on then as I obviously haven't swotted enough to qualify to have a valid opinion on anything important like the Grand Prix series...... I really wish Phil would update the forum rules to include stuff like this....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 You could always read my G P Winners, Facts and Figures thread Robyn1972. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 You could always read my G P Winners, Facts and Figures thread Robyn1972. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah just read that! What ever made you trawl through the records to come up with that? Having said that - it was an amazing read! and for that I thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Right. I'll limit my posting to the Top section of the board from now on then as I obviously haven't swotted enough to qualify to have a valid opinion on anything important like the Grand Prix series......I really wish Phil would update the forum rules to include stuff like this....... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They should have a womens section really,then you can all discuss sport to your hearts content without bothering us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Don't get me started on you with that comment Iris! What makes you think you men talk any more sense on here anyway? It's my experience you're the source of all the bitching and aggravation anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 (edited) Aggravation is my middle name. I'm Subedei Aggra'vation Bat'Atur. Edit: And, to answer Tabby3, I was looking for something specific and expanded a little. It didn't take long. Edited September 30, 2005 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Don't get me started on you with that comment Iris! What makes you think you men talk any more sense on here anyway? It's my experience you're the source of all the bitching and aggravation anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hang on Rabbit.....we are seriously thinking of bothering to argue with a BLOKE called IRIS?!!! And they ARE the source of all the bitching and aggravation.....even when it's girls doing it they've been wound up by men first to put them in a bad mood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn1972 Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 You could always read my G P Winners, Facts and Figures thread Robyn1972. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you for that - I just have!! Iris123 - to underline my opinion that Mr Richardson is as worthy of a place in the GP as Mr Nicholls, please refer to points 24 through 28 in the above mentioned thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 16 Zagar17 Max 18 Lindback 19 Hamill 20 Protsiewicz 21 Bjerre 22 Loram 23 Kolodziej 24 Kasprzak 25 Lukas Dryml <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What you been smoking James? Zagar better than Max, Lindback, Bjerre and Kasprzak You really do talk dogs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I have virtually zero knowledge of the averages in the Swedish, Damish or Polish leagues though, so I am using the only tool I have to hand! Lee's average in Sweden is 7.54 which puts him at #20 in the national averages, and he is not in the top 25 in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Lee's average in Sweden is 7.54 which puts him at #20 in the national averages, and he is not in the top 25 in Poland. I thought he was 17th on 7.99, 16th if you don't include Billy Hamill who does not want to ride in the GP's, 15th if you also remove the injured Michael Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I thought he was 17th on 7.99, 16th if you don't include Billy Hamill who does not want to ride in the GP's, 15th if you also remove the injured Michael Max. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My averages include the play-offs SCB, maybe yours don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I thought he was 17th on 7.99, 16th if you don't include Billy Hamill who does not want to ride in the GP's, 15th if you also remove the injured Michael Max. And SCB literally adds insult to injury by removing Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Right then. Can the moany <beep>s name me 7 riders who are better than him that did NOt finish in the top 8 of the GP series? IF they can name me 7 rider who ARE better than him (other than the top 8 GP riders), then we might be able to continue with the "Lee Richardson does not deserve a Gp place" bitching. This should be intresting as I don't think there are 7 riders who are better than him but, I'll give people a chance. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> bold are better, others same standard or deserve a chance more than Lee. Jaroslaw Hampel Hans Andersen Peter Karlsson Mikael Max Rune Holta Piotr Protasiewicz Scott Nicholls Krzysztof Kasprzak Kenneth Bjerre Fredrik Lindgren Mark Loram Billy Hamill Matej Zagar Janusz Kolodiej Neils K Iversen Charlie Gjedde they are the TOP BRITS we support our own not other countries <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So let Scott Nicholls go in and give Loram or Stead a season if we have to have 2. of course he deserves to be in there.look at what he did in the world cup and in the second polish grand prix <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, he did well in those two didnt he ! Polish GP, wasnt that where he just scrapped into the Semi-Finals and ended up runner up. This would be a bit like Eastbourne losing heat 30 in the play-off final this year. we have a british GP therefore we need at least A BRITISH rider in the GP otherwise people wont go..... The british league is one if not THE biggest so does need to have brits in it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A BRITISH rider. . . . Scott Nicholls. . job done 1..TR2..JC 3..Leigh Adams 4..Nicki P 5..G Hancock 6..BP 7..TG 8..Andreas Jonsson 9..Jaroslaw Hampel 10..Antonio Lindback 11..Kenneth Bjerre 12..Krzysztof Kasprzak 13..Janusz Kolodziej 14..Matej Zagar 15..Lukas Dryml <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Peter Karlsson, Mikael Max, Fredrik Lindgren, Hans Andersen, Piotr Protasiewicz, Charlie Gjedde, Neils K Iversen etc all missing from your list, all should be somewhere above 15..Lukas Dryml glad lee got picked,least he ll give niki p a run for his money. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which GP will this be in, dont wont to miss the one round he does well in ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Cyclops Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 as long as GB have scott and lee in the G.P we will never have an english world champion and looking at the riders coming through i think it will be many years before we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 bold are better, others same standard or deserve a chance more than Lee. Mark Loram So let Scott Nicholls go in and give Loram or Stead a season if we have to have 2. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can't believe that you think Mark is the same standard as Lee! I would still put Mark as bold ! Also, I would give Mark a chance at this new format, we all know what Mark is capable of and with an injury free season he can prove his place! Surely BSI and the others know this then again maybe not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jill Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 So let Scott Nicholls go in and give Loram or Stead a season if we have to have 2.Yes, he did well in those two didnt he ! why Loram ?? ( had all hes gonna get from the GP's ) why Stead ?? ( a year more in the EL and yes i would put him in just not yet ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Cyclops Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 I can't believe that you think Mark is the same standard as Lee! I would still put Mark as bold ! Also, I would give Mark a chance at this new format, we all know what Mark is capable of and with an injury free season he can prove his place! Surely BSI and the others know this then again maybe not <{POST_SNAPBACK}> are you joking, lee is bad but to put loram in would be worse, a great rider but past his best and no longer good enough for the GP. same as putting mansell back in F1, he would come nowhere. FACT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 The fact remains that at Bydgoszcz Lee Richardson turned 8 points into 20 points, while at Prague Scott Nicholls turned 13 points into, well, 13 points, and at Lonigo Nicholls transformed 6 points into, well, 6 points. If anything, Lee Richardson deserves a place ahead of Nicholls. League form isn't the be all and end all of it. Hampel was pretty ordinary in the leagues this season, but he finished runner-up twice in GPs. That's the indicator. And every indictation is that Nicholls can't produce at the business end of a GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 are you joking, lee is bad but to put loram in would be worse, a great rider but past his best and no longer good enough for the GP. same as putting mansell back in F1, he would come nowhere. FACT. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for that one! Best laugh I have had for a while! You seriously (I mean "Seriously") think that Loram is not good enough for the GP's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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