Guest Spooner Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 What about Dean Barker!!! He is doing very well in the Elite League never mind doing it in the premier!! On the BSPA site it mentions the fact they have been rewarded because of Potential!! In my eyes this is a pathetic reason - so because they will be brilliant in a few years we will put them in now - it makes no sense to me!! If they were after a premier league rider (or Workington) then what about Carl Stonehewer!!! He has proven that he can compete in the GP's and infact is a better rider than Simon Stead at the moment!! Personally I simply don't agree with it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 What about Dean Barker!!! He is doing very well in the Elite League never mind doing it in the premier!! On the BSPA site it mentions the fact they have been rewarded because of Potential!! In my eyes this is a pathetic reason - so because they will be brilliant in a few years we will put them in now - it makes no sense to me!! If they were after a premier league rider (or Workington) then what about Carl Stonehewer!!! He has proven that he can compete in the GP's and infact is a better rider than Simon Stead at the moment!! Personally I simply don't agree with it!! I can see the benefits of putting young riders with potential in to give them a taster for years to come, after all England wants future World Champions and to achieve that these boys need every bit of experience they can get (although i don't think either Howe or Stead will ever achieve that accolade), i see no benefit in putting in riders who are neither going to improve, or challenge the top men in the event. In my opinion messrs Barker, Stonehewer, Screen, Havelock etc all fall into that category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spooner Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 i see no benefit in putting in riders who are neither going to improve, or challenge the top men in the event. You are telling me that Simon Stead will Challenge the likes of Lee Richardson, Jason Lyons etc better than Dean Barker would at this precise moment in time??? Fair enough in Years to come - but why not wait untill then, instead of putting a wild card in who will most likely turn up and get two lasts (unless theres an exclusion or ef). Not even the biggest Simon Stead fan if being honest will admitt he has a better chance of doing well than Dean Barker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 i see no benefit in putting in riders who are neither going to improve, or challenge the top men in the event. You are telling me that Simon Stead will Challenge the likes of Lee Richardson, Jason Lyons etc better than Dean Barker would at this precise moment in time??? Fair enough in Years to come - but why not wait untill then, instead of putting a wild card in who will most likely turn up and get two lasts (unless theres an exclusion or ef). Not even the biggest Simon Stead fan if being honest will admitt he has a better chance of doing well than Dean Barker!! I think you'll find Simon comes into the will improve section!! Deano (as good a season as he's having) doesn't fit into either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Interesting point about Hamill, personally I wonder whether Billy Janniro should have got the nod as one of the up and coming non-Brits...but whether that would be a popular move amongst fans and riders I don't know.. I think you do really Rabbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Dean Barker having his best season for years Testimonial season as well. Would have been nice to have seen him riding @ Cardiff. Good Luck to Simon & David, I'm sure the British fans will be behind you all the way, my lot will be :!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jronayne Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Knowing Steady & his injuries record, he'll probably get injured before then. I hope not though as no one likes to see riders injured. I have to agree though the Bomber should be in there, because i think he'd give the GP boys a run for their money, remebering a few races with Nicki Pedersen & Tony Rickardsson over the last two years, and a certain Mr. Crump on his own patch (well no-one except a fit Sully rides 'boro like Crumpy!) Keep it up Bomber your time will come!! Chris 'Bomber' Harris - Britain's Next World Champion!! ps. If Loramski doesn't ride, who'll get his spot :?: Mr.Harris, i hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberzbabe Posted May 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 ronni pederson will take his place as he is the next reserve. i reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valc Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Us Workington fans are thrilled to bits for the lad at the moment and I have sent him an e-mail personally wishing him all the best. In fact he is over the moon at being picked. If you had seen him on Saturday you would know what a good rider he is, he was fantastic and his passing is out of this world. He equalled the fastest time of the season round Derwent Park on Saturday in the same meeting as Stoney did it as well which was only 0.2 off Stoneys track record. So that should show you how good he is and he has a few years on Stoney as well. He will be the youngest GP rider there has ever been for the british GP so good look mate you have the whole of Workington behind you and probably some of your home town of Sheffield as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Out with the old and in with the new BUT. Defo Chris Harris for me then anyone from Barker, Robson, Howe. But Stead struggles to beat the likes of Rob Grant many times around Brough if he was injury free and on form then maybe but others will feel hard done by. My fave was Harris but maybe's next time. As for those who think it should go to the American's u should go and give yourself a slap this is the BRITISH Grand Prix not the Daytona we only have 3 permanent GP riders and 1 of them is a wild card this is the lowest it's ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 As for those who think it should go to the American's u should go and give yourself a slap this is the BRITISH Grand Prix not the Daytona we only have 3 permanent GP riders and 1 of them is a wild card this is the lowest it's ever been. I'm with you on this one Porter, there was a suggestion somewhere on here that the wildcards should be foreign riders, as you say though this is the BRITISH Grand Prix xx XX COME XX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 As for those who think it should go to the American's u should go and give yourself a slap this is the BRITISH Grand Prix not the Daytona we only have 3 permanent GP riders and 1 of them is a wild card this is the lowest it's ever been. I'm with you on this one Porter, there was a suggestion somewhere on here that the wildcards should be foreign riders, as you say though this is the BRITISH Grand Prix xx XX COME Im sure your opinion was the same when Mark Loram was given wildcard entries by all the other countries a few years back?????? :roll: :roll: I agree with the majority in that Simon Stead is not up to a GP! But someone said that it was something to do with money............If this was the case, surely Stoney would have got one??? He could half fill the place with his fanbase!!!! Id have gone for David+Stoney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 He will be the youngest GP rider there has ever been for the british GP so good look mate you have the whole of Workington behind you and probably some of your home town of Sheffield as well. Valc, Sorry but I don't actually think that anywhere anyone has said that they won't be supporting the two British lads. He will be getting a lot of support from Coventry, Belle Vue, Eastbourne in fact from every team in Britain. As for those who think it should go to the American's u should go and give yourself a slap this is the BRITISH Grand Prix not the Daytona we only have 3 permanent GP riders and 1 of them is a wild card this is the lowest it's ever been. Porter, What a load of tosh. Personally I would prefer to see a couple of riders who could make a difference to a race result, and I don't think Steady will or David for that matter. It doesn't matter if the Wildcards are American, Danish, Swedish, Outer Mongolian - after all they will be providing entertainment I would love to see 10 British riders in the GP, however you have to qualify the same as any nation, and if we only have 3, it just means that we don't have the calibre of riders that are required in the GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 But the GPs are not all about the best riders in the world altho in the main they are there ............ having representatives from all the nations holding a GP comes into it most definitely!! Like Dean Barker said in the Speedway Star this week he thought the GPs were about the best/on form riders which judging by the averages he is this season! I, too, believe that neither Simon or Howey will make an impact BUT I'll be pleased if they prove me wrong! I suppose you could say that they should be able to as the other young riders in the GPs have!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Oh im sorry did we not have the calibre in 1995 then when Jason Crump was our wild card for some reason.The reason being we had 6 Brits in it already! Bring back the day's when it was a minimum of 3 Brits per team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 PS also notice you are from Coventry. More like should be sent to for treason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 from Coventry and extremely proud to be. And I also notice you are from teesside so you must classed as northern grow up - everyone is allowed their opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberzbabe Posted June 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 david will prove u wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 North East to be precise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 Seeing we go to be entertained, then i think it should be the best two riders for the job. if Simon Stead does any better than two lasts i'd be surprised, after all he was beaten by the likes of Adrian Rymel and Paul Thorp in the last week. Stuart Robson isn't exactly old is he?? I know he's now injured but no-one even put him forward. Stonehewer would have brought the Workington following, and more of them, as he's still definitely their favourite rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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