bulldog 77 / 78 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hi Rich, thanks for the info, did you mention to him the question of `him being dead ?` you said you`d mention it - Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqueakyFrekey Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Dont know where Billy"s son Derek is now or for that matter any of the Eastville riders except that a second-halfer by the name of Richard Hodgson keeps a greengrocery shop on the Long cross in Lawrence Weston Bristol. The best bet to catch up with Johnnie Hole is to call in at the Midland Road Garage in Bath where you should find his uncle Johnnie Hole.If you do see either of them please ask if pre-war lady rider Vera Hole was related.Regarding the Eastville stars quite a few obviously live abroad however sadly the following are no longer with us; Tom Leadbitter,Soren Sjosten and Danny Kennedy. Saw Edger Stangeland being interviewed in the bar at Exeters last meeting-he now farms in Ireland and does a great irish accent!. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqueakyFrekey Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 As an aside I used to go to loads of meetings with Richards dad (Reg) years ago when Richard was a young lad. Interestingly Reg was mechanic to Mike Beddoe when he rode for Bristol many years ago (40's or early 50's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog 77 / 78 Posted January 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Hi SqueakyFrekey-unusual name ! Rich was recently telling me about his dad and the interest he had with grasstrack and speedway. Hopefully I will be seeing him on Saturday so will mention this to him - unless he sees your message beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedyguy Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am certain that Vera Hole rode speedway in the 1930s under the name Sonny Somerset. I either read it in a book about Crystal Palace Speedway or in VSM. Can't be certain. Have neither books now. I also recall the Hole family in 1947 - Billy, Graham, Johnnie and I think two more of them racing at Knowle Stadium. Or am I getting muddled in my old age like Mike Baldwin in 'Coronation Street'? I remember Johnnie as a very good rider at Southampton in the 1950s and probably early 1960s too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog 77 / 78 Posted January 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Hi speedyguy, you are correct - as regards Vera Hole. she did ride on the speedway circuit. Not sure exactly what relationship she had with the `Hole` brothers. Maybe an aunty or older sister. If you can remember back to the 40s - 60s it is doubtful that you are loosing your `marbles` mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Hi Speedguy,I think that you are thinking of Eric Salmon who I believe was related to the Holes by marriage. There was also Roger Wise and Jack Mountford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog 77 / 78 Posted January 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Hello Knowle, Eric Salmons missus might be `Vera` - alias `Sonny Somerset` . I know that he married into the Hole family. His family ran the Post Office in Englishcombe near Bath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 hi bulldog 77/78 Vera Hole must be of the previous generation to Eric Salmon. No doubt Johnnie Hole would know now he is back in the land of the living! We badly need the Bulldogs back now that Reading have pinched the nickname! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) Hello Bulldog 77/78 ref my post yesterday I must be getting confused in my old age ! It was of course Derek Hole who was thought to have left us , Johnnie Hole never went anywhere ! UP the (Bristol) Bulldogs ! Also I have just spotted a 1952 Wembley programme which says that Jack Mountford (not Eric Salmon) was related to the Holes by marriage. Confusion reigns!. Edited February 2, 2006 by Knowle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 It does state in the Crystal Palace book that Vera Hole had 3 brothers who rode for Bristol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Hey Bulldog, check out this link, go to aussie history and you will find a story on Danny Kennedy.http://www.ausm.info/ Regards Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog 77 / 78 Posted February 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 (edited) Thanks `Chopper` Its a shame hes gone. On the subject of riders `marrying into the Hole family` its deffinately Eric Salmon who married their sister. ref:- "Bristol Bulldogs" - by Dave Wods & Geoff Rose Edited February 26, 2006 by bulldog 77 / 78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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