2006 - Rules ?

[Kevin Meynell]

I would prefer to see any lower average rider able to replace a higher average rider throughout the team with a limit of (say) twice per team per meeting

 

It's not a bad idea, although there's a danger that being able to replace riders at will would also make it less of a team event.

 

I have never been a big fan of the final nominated race - loads of hanging around for the obvious suspects to be announced and would be easier to schedule a 'decent' heat at 14 or 15 instead

 

To be honest, I'm ambivalent about the nominated heat. It's okay if you need to make up the number of heats in some way, but equally I think a 'decent' programmed heat would be fine. I totally agree that the delay before the nominated heat is irritating.

[Trees]

It's not always dead obvious who's going to be in the nominated heat. It also gives riders, not always the top boys, the chance of earning some extra dosh on a good night, which is a good thing imo.

 

GM & KM - You two aren't very tolerant, it's a modern phenomenon, no patience ....... or is it a "male" thing ........ tch!

[Kevin Meynell]

GM & KM - You two aren't very tolerant, it's a modern phenomenon, no patience ....... or is it a "male" thing

 

Well perhaps it's a male thing, but certainly not a modern thing. I remember when we used to get through 20 heats by 21.30 (starting at 19.45) at Oxford. Nowadays, you're lucky if Heat 15 has finished by 21.45.

 

I guess pointless delays are less of an issue when it's a warm, sunny evening and you're able to chat with your mates (the ones that still go, that is), but they're extremely annoying when you're standing in the cold and dark.

[TonyM]

It's not always dead obvious who's going to be in the nominated heat.  It also gives riders, not always the top boys, the chance of earning some extra dosh on a good night, which is a good thing imo.

 

GM & KM - You two aren't very tolerant, it's a modern phenomenon, no patience ....... or is it a "male" thing ........ tch! 

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Sorry more of a 'parent' thing if anything which looking at the time between the end of heat 14 and the start of the victory lap can take in excess of 15 mins, not a lot of incentive to stay when the match is often over as a contest by the end of heat 14

 

Whilst it may not be dead obvious the rules are such that it isnt even nominating 2 from 7, more like 2 from 3 or 4 and I really dont see what takes all the time

 

1. Work out who is eligible

2. Talk to said riders (as we have seen at Lynn some riders prefer not to ride heat 15!)

3. Weigh up combinations (who rides well together etc)

4. Confirm gate positions

 

How can the above take sooooo long

[father jack]

One rule I would like to see changed is this silly doubling or halving of averages between the EL and PL. It can leave riders with averages they could never attain, eg. Ben Howe getting something like 11.90 . Maybe it would be best just to add or subtract 3 from a riders average, it would provide a more realistic figure. A 5 point EL rider could drop down with an average of 8, a 9 point PL rider could move up with an average of 6, seems fairer.

[enotian]

One rule I would like to see changed is this silly doubling or halving of averages between the EL and PL. It can leave riders with averages they could never attain, eg. Ben Howe getting something like 11.90 . Maybe it would be best just to add or subtract 3 from a riders average, it would provide a more realistic figure.  A 5 point EL rider could drop down with an average of 8, a 9 point PL rider could move up with an average of 6, seems fairer.

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Previously didn't they multiply or divide by 1.5 to assess riders swapping between leagues?

 

So If you're a 9 point PL rider you'd be a 6 point EL rider etc etc.

 

All depends on the relative standards in each league I suppose.

[Kevin Meynell]

Previously didn't they multiply or divide by 1.5 to assess riders swapping between leagues?

 

Yes. I think the problem is that riders moving from the BPL to BEL would struggle to achieve their average if it were assessed using a factor of 1.5, whereas it's more realistic for riders moving the other way.