Steve Shovlar Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I also agree about Loram. When he was beaten in Norway by some 40+ unknown that was the final nail in his coffin at world level. Looked dis interested as well, and rode like he wanted to be elsewhere. Stead is nowhere near ready, and won't get a sniff other than the chance of wild card at the British GP. Nicholls and Richardsson are better riders and will get the nod before Stead. I also don't reckon Karlsson will get in either. He is too old, and whether he is on form or not, BSI will go for up and coming younger riders. Should be interesting when the lineup is announced. But no suprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I still can't see any compelling reason, other than commercial, for either Nicholls or Richardson to be retained in the series. They failed in 2004. They failed in 2005. And the chances are they'll fail in 2006. Serial failures that should be defenestrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I'd like to bet that if Mark Loram was in the GP's and made a decent start to the season the british fans would not be disappointed! The bloke ain't that bloody old and remains one of the most popular if not THE most popular british rider ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Nicholls- The British GP is the biggest on the calendar. He will be one of two Brits seeded. Lindback – Two GP’s in Sweden = Three Swedes in the series. He’s in. Hampel - Two GP’s in Poland = Three Poles in the series. He’s in. He is actually the most deserving after his injuries this year. Andersen – Danish. Ole Olsen GP director, Danish. He’s in. Richardson - The British GP is the biggest on the calendar. He will be one of two Brits seeded. Rullivan – No Aussie GP. He’s out replaced by Zager. Chrzanowski – Cannot seed the rider that’s finished last. Will be replaced by Kasperzak due to the Polish two GP round rule. The only deviation from this would be Andersen out and another Brit put in, due to the success of Cardiff. That Brit would be Stead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 They failed in 2004. They failed in 2005. And the chances are they'll fail in 2006. Serial failures that should be defenestrated. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have I heard this before?? Oh yeah, you've said it on every post in this thread Boooooooring Chances are Trick will fail 2006, chances are... Nicholls is an asset for the series, a great rider who becomes the the greatest when he sorts his gating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpeasley Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 IMHO, The seven seeds should be: 1. Scott Nicholls... just missed out on automatic place, scored more race points than many in the top 8 but missed out by not reaching finals. 2. Antonio Lindback... Young, talented, erratic - good value for money! 3. Jarek Hampel... HAS to be in the 2006 series. Only missed out on top 8 due to missing three rounds due to injury. 4. Lee Richardson... on the basis of his World Cup perfromance and second place in Bydgoszcz. There needs to be a second permanent Brit in the series. 5. Krzysztof Kasprzak... the third Pole for 2006. Younger than Protasiewicz (who's been given enough of a chance in the GP series in the past). 6. Niels-Kristian Iversen... deserves a chance, after two very good wildcard appearances in the Danish GP in 2004 and 2005. 7. Matej Zagar... rostrum place as a wildcard in 2005. Nuff said! All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Imo I think the top 8 as it finished are the only riders with any chance of sustaining a successful attempt at the GP's due to their sponsorship/backing. I think the rest whoever they might be, cannot muster the funds that the likes of TRick et al have at their disposal, so any of the 'invited' riders are only ever going to 'make the numbers' up. The costs to sustain a successful GP campaign must be enormous. Just my thoughts no harm intended Colin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Yes, an endless GP budget is all-important it seems. It would be nice if it wasn't like that...but it is. No doubt, TRick's fans are hoping that the bulk of his budget came from a 'clean' source. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 (edited) Don't they say that when it's too good to be true... But who has these mega budgets? Crump, Trick, Gollob, Adams...??? Richardson maybe 2nd tier same as Nicholls... Yet even Crump told in the Star how overwhelmed he was with all the toys Trick has. Same kind of stuff (the MaiKai incident) has been in football for years. This year a chinese businesman bought a finnish football team, fired the coach and brought in a dutch coach with 5? dutch players, one of them previously suspected of fixing a game. Anyway, they lost their first game 0-8, and it's been reported that millions were made in illegal bets troughout Asia. This was 3 months ago, and the investigations are yet to finish. Infact there's another game they are currently investigating as well, with the same team. Edited September 17, 2005 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Have I heard this before?? Oh yeah, you've said it on every post in this thread Boooooooring Chances are Trick will fail 2006, chances are... Nicholls is an asset for the series, a great rider who becomes the the greatest when he sorts his gating. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree From the little i saw(some on tv and the Danish GP)Nicholls was one of the few exciting riders.Iversen as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 (edited) I agree From the little i saw(some on tv and the Danish GP)Nicholls was one of the few exciting riders.Iversen as well <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Breathtaking moves from Scotty against Sullivan @ Eskilstuna GP Edited September 17, 2005 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 (edited) Well Subedei has a somewhat strange obsession with removing Scotty,Rico and Tony Blair from their seats Can't replace them all with Poles I know that leaves it open for someone to say a pole can do a better job than Blair Edited September 17, 2005 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 No, I'm being consistent. With the circus now lacking an entry tournament, there has to be some form of selection process to eliminate the weaklings. My view has always been that if you fail to automatically qualify twice running, you should be out. In that sense, Andersen, Nicholls, Sullivan and Richardson have failed and should be kicked out. But it seems Nicholls and Richardson don't even have to try. They should just automatically have a place because the British GP is all-important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I think BSI for pure commerical reasons will put a Czech rider in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PanthersChamp06 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 (edited) So no one thinks that Bjerre will get a place, i think apart from Nicholls abd Hampel who are almost guaranteed places it is 4 out of 6 riders. Edited September 17, 2005 by PanthersChamp06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpeasley Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Subedei, YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNN! I think we know your views on this one by now. There's no need to repeat them 10 times!!!! All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 There's no need to repeat them 10 times!!!! But I'm just getting warmed up for when the "nominations" are announced old fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I think BSI for pure commerical reasons will put a Czech rider in. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats what I thought a year ago, but it didn't happen. Why would it now, there's not one good enough! I would kick out Sullivan and replace him with possibly Zagar, Chrzanowski for KK and maybe Andersen for Bjerre or PUK. All the others are good enough to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 The Czech Grand Prix wasnt well attended this year and for there to be a good success this year, they need a Czech rider within the 15. I dont agree that a Czech rider should be in, its just BSI are going to pick at least 4 out of the 7 nominations on commerical reasons. Somebody mentioned no ones mentioning Bjarne Pedersen, thats because hes qualified by right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinRyan Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 IMHO, The seven seeds should be: 1. Scott Nicholls... just missed out on automatic place, scored more race points than many in the top 8 but missed out by not reaching finals. 2. Antonio Lindback... Young, talented, erratic - good value for money! 3. Jarek Hampel... HAS to be in the 2006 series. Only missed out on top 8 due to missing three rounds due to injury. 4. Lee Richardson... on the basis of his World Cup perfromance and second place in Bydgoszcz. There needs to be a second permanent Brit in the series. 5. Krzysztof Kasprzak... the third Pole for 2006. Younger than Protasiewicz (who's been given enough of a chance in the GP series in the past). 6. Niels-Kristian Iversen... deserves a chance, after two very good wildcard appearances in the Danish GP in 2004 and 2005. 7. Matej Zagar... rostrum place as a wildcard in 2005. Nuff said! All the best Rob <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nicholls - agreed Lindback - agreed (although I do think he is wreckless) Hampel - agreed Richardson - agreed, but without doubt the least deserving Kasprzak - agreed and the new World Under 21 Champion (even though it was farcically decided by lots) Iversen - Your having a laugh! Oxford second string - no thanks, wouldn't pay to watch him. Zagar - A few weeks ago I would have agreed, but think he was found wanting in Lonigo - the GP's are a lot easier when they are raced on a track where you've raced all your life like Krsko. Jury out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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