sCATygirl! Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 (edited) Have noticed this season, as we now go to Somerset, that some of the refs seem to have a real grudge against the youngsters in the 2nd halves, it's as though they are taking up thier precious time, so let's make it difficult for them!! Friday's 2nd half was a total farce after what had been a good meeting with no 'unusua'l refereeing decisions!!!!!!! They are just starting out in the sport and are obviously going to make mistakes, so think just a little tolerance isn't too hard to find is it? Yes Carp it is a proper 'bloody' competition as you put it, but do you know the rule book of where you 'work' from cover to cover!!!!! Also think that some of the lads who have posted on here have a very valid point when they say about what they see on the tv and also the problems they have actually obtaining the right helmet colours etc. Just keep smiling lads Fines and exclusions are not the way to encourage these youngsters, who to be honest we need if speedway is to continue. Edited August 21, 2005 by sCATygirl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki star 882 Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 (edited) Have noticed this season, as we now go to Somerset, that some of the refs seem to have a real grudge against the youngsters in the 2nd halves, it's as though they are taking up thier precious time, so let's make it difficult for them!! Friday's 2nd half was a total farce after what had been a good meeting with no 'unusua'l refereeing decisions!!!!!!! They are just starting out in the sport and are obviously going to make mistakes, so think just a little tolerance isn't too hard to find is it? Yes Carp it is a proper 'bloody' competition as you put it, but do you know the rule book of where you 'work' from cover to cover!!!!! Also think that some of the lads who have posted on here have a very valid point when they say about what they see on the tv and also the problems they have actually obtaining the right helmet colours etc. Just keep smiling lads Fines and exclusions are not the way to encourage these youngsters, who to be honest we need if speedway is to continue. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said sCATygirl. The speedway authorities need to stick to one set of rules, make sure everyone is aware of them, and stop costing riders money ( especially youngsters who cant afford it ). Why cant someone like Peter Oakes, who is supposed to be in charge of young riders advise these youngsters. And although second halfs are competitive they are not official competitions so some leeway has to be acceptable. It also highlights the worrying variation in the standard of refereeing as I dont think this happens at other tracks. Edited August 22, 2005 by suzuki star 882 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizz Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Well, i dont know if this has been said but i did go to exeter for the individual meeting and there was certain riders there that were still using the Yellow/Black helmet colour. Seen as i am a Newport Supporter i seen the way the ref pulled the yellow black helmet colours at the u15's, yet at the individual meeting there was nothing said to these riders! All i say is if you are going to have a rule, isnt it supposed to be one rule for everyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressed Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 I think you will find it was a trainee ref at Newport for the Under 15's and was probably nervous as hell with another ref looking at her every move no doubt. I do agree they should all be singing from the same rule book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderman Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 2 sets of rules as usual Glen Cunninghams red helmet colour was anything but red last friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Speedway Star, page 8. If Adams' helmet is green, I'm Tony Rickardsson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganbike Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Must be the way the sun is shining on it !. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressed Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) Just had a look on the BSPA site and read the following under 'Basic League Rules': Riders are identified by Helmet Colours: Home Riders: Red and Blue, Visiting Riders: Green, Yellow and Black. and this under 'What Is Speedway': Below the individual scorecharts is the racecard which covers all the heats from 1 to 15. The top two riders listed in each heat are the 'home' riders, followed by the two 'away' riders. To the left of the riders name is their rider number and further across the page under the colour column is the colour of the helmet he'll wear (R-Red, B-Blue, G-Green and Y-Yellow & Black quarters). Kinda sums it all up really Edited September 5, 2005 by stressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganbike Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) I think the yellow only colour was introduced for 2005 so the Just released BSPA site is out of date already as is the ACU site !. Edited September 5, 2005 by morganbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Why was GREEN introduced? I thought it was because white didn't show up on the telly. If so, who's idea was it that a helmet colour to denote the tactical double rider would be WHITE and black? Surely it should have been GREEN and black? I was at the Newport meeting where the farcical decision about the helmet colour was made. Sure she was a trainee but wasn't it Chris Gay at her side? surely he knows better. how is it fair that the top stars can get away with all sorts of helmet designs when they can afford a different helmet for every colour yet the young lads who are just starting out get penalised for using a yellow and black helmet colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganbike Posted September 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Why was GREEN introduced? I thought it was because white didn't show up on the telly. If so, who's idea was it that a helmet colour to denote the tactical double rider would be WHITE and black? Surely it should have been GREEN and black? I was at the Newport meeting where the farcical decision about the helmet colour was made. Sure she was a trainee but wasn't it Chris Gay at her side? surely he knows better. how is it fair that the top stars can get away with all sorts of helmet designs when they can afford a different helmet for every colour yet the young lads who are just starting out get penalised for using a yellow and black helmet colour? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Woody, Im sure the colours were changed to represent the 4 coloured buttons on the sky remote.This then makes betting possible through SKYBET. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schuey Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) I think she should be an age limit for the fines its a bit harsh on the youngsters! Edited October 7, 2005 by schuey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) If you enforce rules from the start youngsters are going to get to know them. Let them off to begin with and they will continue trying to bend the rules either deliberately or because they haven't bothered to learn them. If a rider goes out and doesn't fit his dirt deflector his opponents are not going to like it if they are filled in with dirt and the ref lets the offender off. Start as you mean to go on. Parents must also take some responsibility too. I must say though imposing a fine at CL or U15 level is silly and another punishment such as 15 yard (or is it metres these days?)handicap or exclusion would be more appropriate and perhaps teach a lesson. As regards the helmet colours, as a former employee of Sky, I was aware that they were behind and suggested the change of helmet colours. Their intention was (and could still be) to have all riders wearing helmet cams and using the four coloured interactive buttons on the remote control the viewer could select which of the fours riders they 'viewed' from as well as possibilities for Skybet. Edited October 7, 2005 by cinderfella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 to be honest they need to crackdown on helmet colours in Elite League, Lee Richardson constantly goes out in a gold helmet for yellow and never gets punished, so kids watching and doing speedway will think it is not too much of a problem, so the kids get punnished and fined for wearing the wrong shade of that colour they are supposed to be in that heat. at least he is wearing the right colour unlike Lee Richardson. rules are rules but if the top guys break them then that sets out the wrong example to the younger riders who watch live speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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