Subedei Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 I didn't think it was Grodzki tonight. I thought it was the other one. Or have Sky got it wrong again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKZ Kitten Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Indeed, it was Wojaczek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 I'm Polish and I'm not offended. Leave SC alone. Everyone has the right to his/her own opinion. Polish ref is an idiot and I agree. I can understand someone can be angry about it. In fairness to everyone else, this thread started with an altogether different title than it has now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKZ Kitten Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 and I posted before it was changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 and I posted before it was changed Message received and understood. That's me told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 She had posted before it was changed but i take offence to being called racist - so the title was changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 A more apt title is "useless polish referee number 2" as this year we have seen 2 useless referees in the GP's and SWC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKZ Kitten Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Message received and understood.That's me told. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't mean to offend you my friend. Of course you know it Edited August 13, 2005 by ZKZ Kitten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 She had posted before it was changed but i take offence to being called racist - so the title was changed. And that's me told again. I think the "racist" tag was a bit out of line. After all, the Poles are the same race as you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iffoid Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Whatever the nationality - there were some very poor decisions & there have been too many recently on a world class level. Puts the sport to shame when it is on view infront of the rest of the world & is meant to be a showcase for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) I'm just wondering what the title of this thread will be the next time I look. It's had 3 already. I didn't mean to offend you my friend. Of course you know it I know. I was joshing. Edited August 13, 2005 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortoi Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 I do think some people on here are slightly over-sensitive. People who know Silver Cheetah will tell you that he's not a racist person in the slightest. Most of the posts that are taken to be offensive are not meant even remotely like that. And I know Alan would be / is horrified to think that people might perceive him that way. So chill and remember that things are not always what they seem! (Oo-ee-oo!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 It shall stay as this now. I apologise as I got the referee wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Racist? How the hell was it racist? Never read anything so daft in my life. Nicki's mudguard hit Gollob's arm, but I'd have to se it again to see if Gollob moved in on him. Whoever was at fault, though, Gollob wasn't knocked off. He laid the bike down to try and get a re-run, just as TRick has done before and Scott Nicholls should have done at the start of his semi-final. I'm amazed that the ref fell for it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Nicki and Tomas have had some real hard battles lately, neither giving an inch. They were both gunning into the bend, neither was going to give but both needed to turn. Perhaps Nicki left it a little too late to turn so Tomas either turned with him or went sliding into the fence anyhow,in the sludge. Decision could have gone either way. As for the tapes incident, it was clear that the inside two riders were impeded in the replay so why wasn't the heat run again after it had finished? Surely that's the beauty of replays? Edited August 13, 2005 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertHoven Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Mr Whatacheek is not a cheat as that is not possible. In support of that statement I put the following points: If you were expected to peer through a window through which you couldn't see clearly non-stop for several hours and you found it rather incomprehensible, would you: 1. Read the evening paper? 2. Read the Speedway Star? 3. Read the speedway rulebook? 4. Play poker with the other occupants of the box? The correct answer is: None of these see 5. below: 5. You would immediately realise that you had forgotten to collect you glasses from Specsavers that morning. You would would then delay the meeting whilst you went for them! Edited August 14, 2005 by BertHoven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 I don't think that it was the refs fault, in Gollob, Rickkardson and Andersen we have 3 riders who will deliberately lean on an opponent and put down their bikes in an attempt to get a rerun and an exclusion. It is the ultimate Professional foul, just the same as staying down on the track to get a rerun when your partner is on the recieving end of a 5-1 and you fall off. The rules were not written for the likes of these cheats, and referees will need to be very good to see it in the short time they are allowed to make their decisions, when a televised meeting is running late as tonights was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 He laid the bike down to try and get a re-run, just as TRick has done before and Scott Nicholls should have done at the start of his semi-final. I'm amazed that the ref fell for it, though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just what I was thinking at the time!! Is this Scott's main failing now? A lack of tactical awareness? Seems to be about on the pace at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaired Ric Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 yeah baby, its time for those cheating Poles to be banned from international events. power corrupts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Scandinavian GP - very nice meeting in 2nd part Crump - very fast Jonsson - so close to win Rickardsson - coronation in Bydgoszcz Polish riders - not so good, especially Hampel. He were riding to wide in some heats... Pedersen/Gollob action - firstly, Adams should be excluded [iMHO] at the start when he hit Nicki Pedersen - it`s just My opinion secondly - I` thonk that Gollob should be excluded, because Gollob was slower evidently, and he wanted to pass Nicki by force from back....:/ I think that Nicki didn`t touch Gollob and this decision [excluding Pedersen] was unfair........ Thirdly - the same situation in heat #18, of course it was first corner, but Gollob was slower too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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