Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) This is a man on the top his game. He captained his team to world cup glory at the weekend, dropping 2 points in 2 meetings against the worlds top riders. He rams the back of Simon Stead yet manages to stay on his motorcycle and win the heat. Step in Nicki Pedersen. Gollob makes a hard ride under him on bend 1. Nicki does what is almost exactlly the same move back and yet Gollob cannot keep the bike up. The Polish referee excludes Pedersen. Another disgracefull decision from 1 of the worst referees. Almost as bad as letting the race go when Hampel was in front and the tapes clearly going unfairly! Edited August 13, 2005 by Silver Cheetah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 To my mind, Gollob hits the deck when Gollob feels like hitting the deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joester Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) But they both had reasons to be excluded to be honest. Gollob for falling off when he had plenty of space to ride around Nicki. But Pedersen did knock his arm and leg. I think its a close call really, I personally would have excluded Gollob, but I guess because the ref was Polish he didn't get excluded. Edited August 13, 2005 by Joester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 The reason Nicki P would have had for being excluded is the fact that he is nicki pedersen ! IMO he never touched Gollob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joester Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) If you watch the replay again you will see that the back of his bike definately knocked his arm and I think he just hit Gollobs leg but I agree with you about him getting excluded because of his name not how he rode. Edited August 13, 2005 by Joester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 I have the greatest respect for all the riders but have to say Nik Ped is the one rider who strains that view. However, as much as the posing midget with the hairblower lacky gets on my twit, there is no way he should have been excluded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badge wearer Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 This is a man on the top his game. He captained his team to world cup glory at the weekend, dropping 2 points in 2 meetings against the worlds top riders. He rams the back of Simon Stead yet manages to stay on his motorcycle and win the heat. Step in Nicki Pedersen. Gollob makes a hard ride under him on bend 1. Nicki does what is almost exactlly the same move back and yet Gollob cannot keep the bike up. The Polish referee excludes Pedersen. Another disgracefull decision from 1 of the worst referees. Almost as bad as letting the race go when Hampel was in front and the tapes clearly going unfairly! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> think your wrong here,i tell you what you go to a polish league match with 20,000 and ask if there cheats... i think they are more passionate and dedicated than most other nations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Maybe there was slight contact but a rider of Gollob's ability could easily have styed on in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 So what if there fans are dedicated ? Doesn't stop them from cheating ! Take Poole for example.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shale Eater Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) IMO he never touched Gollob. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nicki DID touch him and deserved to go. It could well have been because the ref was Polish as he didn't really look at many replays before making the decision, but Nicki did touch his elbow. The tapes incident was diabolical and should've been called back and I do think that Gollob was fortunate when he clashed with Hampel. BTW, was this the ref at Cardiff????? Edited August 13, 2005 by Shale Eater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SammyR Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but it makes me feel sick when someone declares that "Poles are the ultimate cheats". What a disgusting, racist thing to say. Then someone else calls Pedersen "the posing midget" - pathetic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Racist ? And yes - afaik that was the ref at cardiff. Someone feel free to correct me. Edited August 13, 2005 by Silver Cheetah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) So what if there fans are dedicated ?Doesn't stop them from cheating ! Take Poole for example.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You do talk a load of tosh at times SC. A bad refereeing decision doesn't make the Poles cheats. It was a tricky track out there and Gollob going off was unfortunate but not unexpected when you see the slime off the racing line. He was lucky to not get excluded but that's the way it goes. So easily could have been the other way around. Edit...sorry forgot me smilies! Edited August 13, 2005 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Sorry rabs - just slightly annoying. Also can't quite work out why they seemed to water the track ? And what about letting the 1 with the tapes go ? Just seems rather conveniant. And of course, Rune Holta Edited August 13, 2005 by Silver Cheetah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SammyR Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Rabbit, This SC certainly does talk a lot of tosh !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Special credit to BP. He could've stayed down and taken his chances, but he got up and off the track. Very honest. Maybe too honest, to be honest. I don't think the Poles are cheats. There may have been a little gamesmanship tonight, but no more than TR and Andersen at Cardiff. TG took a couple of chances and got lucky. Maybe he could've stayed up, like he did in a couple of later heats, but he didn't. He went down and got a decision. Just as TR and Andersen did in Cardiff. And plenty of others have before and plenty of others will in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 And you consider my post to be racist ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 If you watch the replay again you will see that the back of his bike definately knocked his arm and I think he just hit Gollobs leg but I agree with you about him getting excluded because of his name not how he rode. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, watch the replay and you'll see Gollob makes contact with Pedersen NOT Pedersne makes contact with Gollob. VERY VERY different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 I think gollob leaned in him, only reason that there was contact. Think Tomasz was chasing a lost cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKZ Kitten Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 I'm Polish and I'm not offended. Leave SC alone. Everyone has the right to his/her own opinion. Polish ref is an idiot and I agree. I can understand someone can be angry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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