Rickardssons Antics

[21st century heathen]

The inconsistancy spoils all sports, but we seem to be suffering quite badly.

 

Holta was excluded when he had nowhere to go. He was just squeezed between two other riders. That's a typical 'all four back' first turn.

 

TRick lined up at a slight angle, nothing wrong with that in theory. The theory being that he would outgate Hampel and be clear to make his own line on the first corner. He didn't and he had to elbow, kick, and nudge Hampel out of the way to make room for himself. Had he not done that I believe Hampel would have got over TRick into the turn. The chain reaction of what happened next to cause the race being stopped was a direct result of TRick's actions. He is therefore the cause of the race being stopped, and should have been excluded. Hampel having to straighten up caused Watt to take avioding action (very well done BTW), and then the German was skittled on the outside. Fortunately nobody was hurt, especually the German lad, but it could ahve been a very nasty pile-up.

 

Perhaps a new definition of the butterfly effect is required. If a speedway rider elbows another rider on the inside, will a speedway rider on the outside get slammed into the fence?

 

[superjoe]

im not taking TR side because im a poole fan

 

 

why should that make a difference too your view he is nothing to do with poole anymore .

 

I suppose it was his fault the race was stopped so did the ref simply wimp out of a descision or did he see it as a first bend incident?

[Jason.C]

why should that make a difference too your view he is nothing to do with poole anymore  .

 

 

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cant win sometimes on this forum i bet if i didnt write that someone would have pulled me up on it...

[Splatty]

some amazing opinions in here!

 

that quite honestly was the worst decision in the meeting - the ref was provided with replay after replay after replay and by the delay was quite obviously in two minds as to what to do - another poor refereeing decision in front of the Sky cameras

 

jeez! a forearm smash is a forearm smash! theres no all 4 back - theres no excluding another rider .........quite simply it is an exclusion for the rider who did it regardless of the scores, the teams involved or the riders involved - I wouldn't care if it was the Queen sitting on that bike - if she kicked someone, punched someone or generally crossed the line with unsportsmaam ( ) like behaviour i'd have her out of the race and possibly the meeting!

 

time to discuss giving yellow and red cards to the refs as well

[sjw ministerofport]

Trick was lucky.

[Ace no.5]

Shocking decision by the ref, as was the earlier Holta decision. Rickardsson basically elbowed Hampel's arm off the handlebars, so it was pretty obvious he'd lose control! If that's not causing the stoppage of a race I don't know what is! It's a long time since I saw Rickardsson excluded. Unfortunately I feel it is now as though he can do no wrong, and we are in danger of him becoming bigger than the sport. And that sure as hell ain't a good thing. He keeps pushing his luck and the refs keep giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[lupus]

Might be showing my age a bit now, but when I started going to speedway in the early 80's if a rider veered (sp?) to the left or right and halted another riders progress within 30mts of the start he was excluded (or should have been). 

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No they didn't - speedway urban myth number 145!!!!!!

[Eastie]

after watching the footage i personally dont see what the big deal. at the end of the day, yes rickardsson did elbow hampel. thats racing. it happens. before anyone says it, im not taking TR side because im a poole fan. just the way i see it.

 

 

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Whats being a Poole fan got to do with it ???

He is an Ipswich asset who last rode for Arena Essex

[Eastie]

However from what I remember the only footage we saw was from the side. Therefore how do we know that Hampel did not move into Tony making him stick out his elbows to protect his line?

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I think you'll find it was Trick that moved midtrack

[preacherman]

Rickardsson lays claim the the World individual crown, and if, as he suggests, he is the best in the World then he should show it! Resorting to schoolboy tactics is not doing him any favours whatsoever. If the referee on the night had had the "bottle" he should have excluded him for unfair riding.

 

This Saturday should be very interesting and might I add very exciting. Poland are definitely up for it and I know Team GB are too. I do hope that there is no colusion between the Swedes and Danes like last year in Poole and that IF they win they do by fair means not foul.

 

This is Team GB's year!

Edited August 5, 2005 by preacherman

[Col]

Yes Rickardsson may have been a little harsh on Holta, but seriously Eastie it's not as bad as what your Arlington favourites Pedersen, Shields & Watt get upto on a weekly basis.

Edited August 5, 2005 by Col

[rabbit]

For what it's worth...anyone think the ref might have been resorting to reverse bias...so worried about people thinking his decisions might favour the Poles that he went the other way - excluding a Pole (using the term loosely in Holta's case ) for a seemingly innocuous decision, and then bottling out of excluding a Swede on his home turf for a more blatant move when the exclusion of Rickardsson could have seen to have been much more beneficial to the Polish cause at that stage of the meeting.

 

It's only a thought and agreed Rickardsson should have been chucked out of that race IMHO. It was a pressure situation and a move Tricky did in the heat of the moment - similar to Crump's move kicking out at Pedersen the other year. It happens even to the nicest of riders..I seem to remember a very ruthless move by Mr Nice Guy Hancock on Havvy when he almost stuffed him in the fence on the line in the SWC a couple of years ago. Not like it's a regular occurence unlike with some...

 

Still think the refs should be from a neutral country in these meetings...we might still get the dodgy decisions for sure, but it would stop any finger pointing of bias one way or another.

[21st century heathen]

I seem to remember a very ruthless move by Mr Nice Guy Hancock on Havvy when he almost stuffed him in the fence on the line in the SWC a couple of years ago.

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If I'm thinking of the same race as you I think you're wrong. It was the first SWC, and Greg was on the outside of Havy as they crossed the line. Greg was squeezed out to the fence, and had to drop his shoulder under Havy's arm to get through the gap. Like I said we could be thinking of differnent races.

 

You might be right about the ref trying not to favour the Poles. Shame he made a complete balls-up of the decisions.

 

[Eastie]

Yes Rickardsson may have been a little harsh on Holta, but seriously Eastie it's not as bad as what your Arlington favourites Pedersen, Shields & Watt get upto on a weekly basis.

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Been watching them weekly then have you

[Matousek]

tr didnt do nothing wrong , just ride hard if you want to win.

[Ace no.5]

There's riding hard and there's going too far, TR went too far.

[Matousek]

to me it was only a little elbow knock, thats fine

[Ace no.5]

He elbowed Hampel's arm off the handlebars! If that's not causing a stoppage I don't know what is!

[21st century heathen]

...and the knock-on effect caused the German to fall. The reason the race was stopped was because the German fell. The reason the German fell was because of what TRick did. TRick had to be excluded, and I can't quite believe anyone can see this one any different.

[preacherman]

If Rickardsson, who claims to be the heir apparent to the World Individual crown has to result to schoolboy pranks instead of relying upon his riding then he does not deserve to be World Champion. The referee should have in this and any other incident like it EXCLUDE the rider for unfair riding. There is no need for it.

 

As regards the issue of the Swedish team. I do hope we do not have a rerun of what we saw at Poole last year. Relying on the Danes to let them past in order to win the WTC. The referee on that occasion should have taken stern action against the Danish rider. It was a clear case of cheating! If you cannot win by your own merits then its not worth winning at all. Clearly, Team GB were far superior at Poole and deserved to win on merit alone.

 

Now we come to todays final. The Poles are really up for it, firing on all cylinders, as are Team GB. It will be a cracking meeting, and may the best team win.

 

Preacherman